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I'm looking for a full picture here.Holy crap, people. I thought we were playing a game where we try to outwit each other, but all you seem to do is berate one another, and constantly remind everyone of how much smarter you are (Not just directed at Bard, there are many of us on here doing that)
Vitriol aside, this is difficult.
I DO agree with the notion that just because someone lies, does not make them scum (This was also said by an experienced player on this same game, I don't remember who)
BarDulL , I'm not going to jump on your wagon just yet. But you made a mistake today. Are you implying that Spak is lying, and got lucky? Or are you implying that you're both town?
To be honest, I don't like either Bard or FML. They both use the same "I don't like this person's argument, therefore he's an idiot. (FML has mentioned my bad logic 3 times, which seems like he wants everyone to know I'm not worth listening to, when they should be deciding that for themselves.)
When someone asks a question, trying to gain more info, posting a thumbs down picture is not a helpful way to say "That's not an avenue we should be pursuing." Don't treat your town mates like children. Don't call people ********.
Since most of the past few pages have been small amounts of good information with a dollop of vitrol, I'm going to spend a lot more time re-reading to figure out my reads. Only tag me if you have a specific point or question.
I put it in this post.
Well I can't vote outside of telling people what to do so.....yeah.
"Lynch this slot for being wrong because he's tried to lynch this slot that flipped town that he didn't actually push at all, my slot, and then these other guys I'm not gonna name."
He's not leading town. If he was, then Glyfe's awful lynch never would've occurred. Moreover, he didn't push Glyfe, and that plan he put forth was merely an idea to double down and get a lynch while still removing the policy lynch slot--i.e., we wouldn't have wasted D2 like we ****ing did.
Why is this the basis of your counterargument? Mods aren't consistent on whether or not they inform others they've been roleblocked. Moreover, Spak saw you going nowhere last night. One of you is guaranteed lying but I'm going to assume it's the guy spitting hellfire and brimstone over the guy merely asking questions.
???
"oh ho ho i was right about glyfe i was right about maven how can i possibly be scum?"
lmao he claimed a tracker on you, has been pretty level-headed during this, and has been pretty townie up until d3 started and you're calling him suspect?
Yes Bardull. That would be why we're lynching you. Because this bull**** you're pulling right now is "playing too good"
Why FML?
When will you actually present reasons instead of just appealing to emotions, authority, or some other higher power that's not actually relevant?
I re-read the game every night phase during the weekend and make notes. Adding onto Bardull's claim toDay and his insistence yesterDay to not answer my questions make sense. FML has been scummy for a while and I have mentioned that. I also have quite a bit of slots in the can die. Your fourth post is you getting blustery. Bardull was not just solely your push so get out if you think that.Why FML?
What happened to your Bardull push?
Y'know, the one slot in your "can die" pool that existed yesterday that you actually sat on?
Y'know, that one push that you tried to take credit for, the only one of which you actually wanted to interact with, when you either ignored, didn't mention, or outright deflected from comments/interactions/pushes about the other slots?
Y'know, that push that was actually mine?
Where'd that one go, J?
In tandem, since you brought this up. How does his emotion read as fake or generated? I disagree and actually feel it rings more true then FML's reaction to being called scum. Let's talk about the emotion of Bardull because he is an emotional player. I highly think that this will be imperative to learning who is right in the situation whether Bardull's emotions are real or fabricated.When will you actually present reasons instead of just appealing to emotions, authority, or some other higher power that's not actually relevant?
"Yeh here's a bunch of vague reasons for why my read completely flipped, that explains why I now think the slot that I deemed 'my push for today', the only slot I can actually claim to have pushed all game, is now a townread."
Don't lecture me.
Don't act like you're better than me.
Don't patronize me.
What reads? Your reads are a bunch of vague, ethereal talk that don't actually exist and mostly just are there to look like you're scumhunting. Call me when you're actually doing anything of value instead of merely putting up an act.
Then don't explain to me how reads work.
Then don't talk down to me or try to lead me around like I'm a moron.
Then don't make snarky comments at me.
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This made me laugh a lot more than it probably should have.Why are you appealing to the ****ing tree stump?
The last 4 slots are all town, and 5 of the 8 votes are from town. Its highly unlikely that scum completely avoided this wagon, but at the same time, I highly doubt that all 3 scum piled on at the beginning and then went ahead and shot the remaining townies from that wagon last night. Like, unless they didn't expect anybody to do votal analysis at all, that was guaranteed to get at least one of them caught. So those 3 slots contain at least 1 town, and 1-2 scum. Its its two scum, rather than just one, I'd expect that one of them is FML, due to the way that scumteams unconciously avoid voting right after one another. Beyond that though, I don't have anything marked down for any anti-alignments between those 3.End of D1 said:
We know now that both of these wagons were on town. So scum didn't really care which one succeeded, but would want to make it look inevitable that one of them would. I'd kind of expect there to be 1 scum on each wagon at this point, and two scum avoiding creating a viable alternative by wasting their votes. If that's exactly the case though, then the two scum abstaining are exactly Zaixl and Bardull, because we have known information on the rest. That could be correct, or there could be 2 scum on either the Glyph or the Maven wagons. I already covered the Maven wagon, and we'll get back to the Glyph wagon in a second, when I look at D2 votals. Let's take a detour over to what was looking like a possibility before we suddenly had wagons on two townies:Tied Maven and Glyph wagons D1 said:
So either all 3 wagons we ran up Day1 were on town, or Zaixl is scum. Let's look at his wagon from the scum!Zaixl perspective first, since that was implied by earlier analysis.Height of Zaixl Wagon said:
So the beginning and the end of the wagon is town, but the entire mess in the middle is pretty unsure. There should definitely be at least 1 scum in there, probably 2, very outside chance of 3, and I don't really have any strong-antialignments between any of them. We need more info, let's look at when the Glyph and Bardull wagons were tied.End of D2 said:
So, what really matters here is if these wagons are TvT or TvS.Tied Bardull and Glyph wagons D2 said:
