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I see where your coming from and the cartoonish look. I still say that 3rd. gen. had the bast ideas, i mean seriously a banana plant dinosaur.
I think Darkslash mentioned the remakes, im not sure
 

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Gold and Silver remakes? Are they possibly in production?
It's impossible to tell anything about whether or not there are G/S remakes in production. Serebii showed covers which looked authentic months ago, and it never came up again (probably because they were fake). I've heard that "Dusk Gold" and "Dawn Silver" have been copyrighted. I've seen a screenshot with Chikorita where the region is Johto. But no word from Nintendo yet on it, so I wouldn't count on one yet.
 

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It's impossible to tell anything about whether or not there are G/S remakes in production. Serebii showed covers which looked authentic months ago, and it never came up again (probably because they were fake). I've heard that "Dusk Gold" and "Dawn Silver" have been copyrighted. I've seen a screenshot with Chikorita where the region is Johto. But no word from Nintendo yet on it, so I wouldn't count on one yet.
FR and LG released before emerald but after R/S. I don't think thats going to be the same for the remakes. The dates would be far to close and it would cause the feel of the games to be lost. Like when I bought FR and LG at the same time. I't caused me some trouble choosing which game to play and what to do.

Though when they are, I'll be sure to make a thread about it :)
 

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off topic: should a thread be made for Pokemon Ranger:Shadows of Almia be made
 

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I still play Crystal (can't play G/S because their battery died. =/ )

I'd still like to see a game where we go to ALL regions!
1.Yeah, that happened to me too. Luckily, I replaced it with another one.

2.Trying to make Pokemon games bigger than they already are, are ya?
 

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G/S/C seemed huge. 4th seemed small, or was it just me? that's funy cuz that's the biggest place so far haha....

And is it just me or did the games get easier??
 

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Now my listing in new order best to worst is second 31 fourth 29 third 21 first 19. Platinum might change things around to somehing like fourth 33 second 30 third 20 first 17. Let's just hope Platinum has a Gym rechallenge like Emerald did. If so then perhaps the Eeveelutions would make it into the gym leaders and e4 teams; like Gardenia's Leafeon and Candice's Glaceon for the gyms, and Lucian's Espeon and Volkner's Jolteon for the e4.
 

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off topic: should a thread be made for Pokemon Ranger:Shadows of Almia be made
It's a spinoff. Enough said.

For me I think platinum will change fourth gen. to second place.
I think Platinum, despite some exciting features, will possibly make fourth gen a little better, but still keep it in the same place. I mean, even now I don't really judge the generations...at all by the third game. If they played a huge role, first gen wouldn't be very high at all, and I wouldn't be able to do anything about second gen. Because, you know, I've never played Crystal, because I got the game and the internal battery was dead so I can only get as far as I can before my battery dies. And honestly, I'm not even going to bother putting in the effort so I can have it deleted.
Is there by any chance a way to replace the internal battery?

Nintendo really ought to do something for the tons of people who bought those games and got screwed over because they were cheap and decided to give us a bad internal battery.

Ah, but they probably wouldn't because most likely that's just an issue us geeks and otaku have.
 

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It's a spinoff. Enough said.

Made a spin-off thread.

I think Platinum, despite some exciting features, will possibly make fourth gen a little better, but still keep it in the same place. I mean, even now I don't really judge the generations...at all by the third game. If they played a huge role, first gen wouldn't be very high at all, and I wouldn't be able to do anything about second gen. Because, you know, I've never played Crystal, because I got the game and the internal battery was dead so I can only get as far as I can before my battery dies. And honestly, I'm not even going to bother putting in the effort so I can have it deleted.
Is there by any chance a way to replace the internal battery?

Nintendo really ought to do something for the tons of people who bought those games and got screwed over because they were cheap and decided to give us a bad internal battery.

Ah, but they probably wouldn't because most likely that's just an issue us geeks and otaku have.

Agreed. Platinum will raise the game drastically but not enough for a whole rank change.

IMO-

2nd Gen>1st Gen>>>>3rd Gen>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>4th Gen

If platinum is good

2nd Gen>1st Gen>>>>3rd Gen>>>>>>>4th Gen


I had to replace my battery :( Thus resulting in a file deletion. Atleast it works now.
 

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2nd>1st>>>>4th>3rd

Wait how did changing your battery have anything to do witht the game BK?
3rd has to atleast be in second or third place.

BK that really sucks. I never replaced my internal battery on silver, but my file still got deleted. My poor poor level 98 quilava:(
 

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I had to replace my battery :( Thus resulting in a file deletion. Atleast it works now.
I was worried that's what happens. I wonder if I should try to replace my Gold's battery now while I'm at the Elite Four and not that far in my PokeDex at all? Crystal won't be a problem, I never had a game on there because I got it and the internal battery was dead.
It really irks me that GameStop sold a basically defective copy of a game to me.

So how'd you get it replaced, Bowser? Did you send it into Nintendo or is there a way to do it yourself?

Hm...come to think of it, it's too bad it wouldn't be possible to replace the internal battery while the game's still running. If so, you could have the file open, replace the internal battery, and then save the game and it would keep the game. As long as the game is on, the save file remains, just as soon as it goes off it stops.

3rd has to atleast be in second or third place.

BK that really sucks. I never replaced my internal battery on silver, but my file still got deleted. My poor poor level 98 quilava:(
...Wait, you kept it a Quilava at level 98?
 

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I was worried that's what happens. I wonder if I should try to replace my Gold's battery now while I'm at the Elite Four and not that far in my PokeDex at all? Crystal won't be a problem, I never had a game on there because I got it and the internal battery was dead.
It really irks me that GameStop sold a basically defective copy of a game to me.

So how'd you get it replaced, Bowser? Did you send it into Nintendo or is there a way to do it yourself?



...Wait, you kept it a Quilava at level 98?

I replaced it my self. Here's how I did it...http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-replace-the-battery-in-a-pokemon-goldsilve/
hope it helps :)
 

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Thanks! That should probably work with Crystal, right? I mean, it's probably built pretty much the same way, and I can see the battery, so...yeah.

I'm debating here; do you think I should replace my Gold battery while I'm at it? I mean, I've had it since shortly after it was released, but I don't think I saved all that much. I don't want to replace the battery if it's still pretty good, but then again I'd rather not work a ton on my PokeDex and finishing up my journey to have it erased...

Probably better safe than sorry. I just hope I don't screw anything up or have it accidentally stop touching the tab after I repair it(it says in the guide that if they stop touching, the save file dies).
 

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Thanks! That should probably work with Crystal, right? I mean, it's probably built pretty much the same way, and I can see the battery, so...yeah.

I'm debating here; do you think I should replace my Gold battery while I'm at it? I mean, I've had it since shortly after it was released, but I don't think I saved all that much. I don't want to replace the battery if it's still pretty good, but then again I'd rather not work a ton on my PokeDex and finishing up my journey to have it erased...

Probably better safe than sorry. I just hope I don't screw anything up or have it accidentally stop touching the tab after I repair it(it says in the guide that if they stop touching, the save file dies).
I would replace it. The battery is probably going to dry out soon anyway. You could wait for a remake but I would do it just to be safe. Plus you will get a lot of added benefits. You could trade over the starters that you didn't choose (though the obeying probalem comes into play but what I did in emerald was raise and extra 2 pokemon from the start and whenever my pokemon were at the lvl they would stop obeying, I would switch). It's a lot of extra training but it's worth it IMO.

I put a lot of duck tape (DON'T put normal tape, it will come out loose even when you shake it). Make sure your battery is the right one (when I tried it, my battery was a different type so I had to get another one). The tab problem can get scary but with lots of tape, there's very little chances of it happening. All I would recommend is to not shake it and keep away from siblings/kids.
 

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I would replace it. The battery is probably going to dry out soon anyway. You could wait for a remake but I would do it just to be safe. Plus you will get a lot of added benefits. You could trade over the starters that you didn't choose (though the obeying probalem comes into play but what I did in emerald was raise and extra 2 pokemon from the start and whenever my pokemon were at the lvl they would stop obeying, I would switch). It's a lot of extra training but it's worth it IMO.

I put a lot of duck tape (DON'T put normal tape, it will come out loose even when you shake it). Make sure your battery is the right one (when I tried it, my battery was a different type so I had to get another one). The tab problem can get scary but with lots of tape, there's very little chances of it happening. All I would recommend is to not shake it and keep away from siblings/kids.
Yeah, I might as well. Plus, I need to rebuild my team because not having a Flying Pokemon in your team (it's the first time I've ever done so) is a pain. And what better time to do it than...well, before I put in the effort to uberly train them. I tried the Elite Four and I got killed at Karen's second Pokemon (and it was a pain to get there, with none of my Pokemon above 39) so I had to train them.

The starter idea is a good plan. I've always liked Totodile and Cyndaquil, but I want to start with Chikorita anyways because I've always been a Grass Starter, save for in fourth gen. Piplup won me over. Having someone besides one of the catchable Pokemon/Chikorita for Falkner would be sorta nice. (Chikorita really is the worst starter in G/S/C. He has a disadvantage (meaning either weak to the Pokemon or grass attacks are weak against the Pokemon) to all but 2 Gym Leaders and has an advantage over ONE of ONE leader's Pokemon.)

Using Duct Tape is an AWESOME idea. Not only can Duct Tape do anything, but it'll look slightly better than normal tape and for my Crystal Version I need something aesthetically pleasing. It's see-through, and I can see the internal battery in fact, so I can choose an awesome color (I have a store near me that sells all of these awesome colors of Duct Tape) and it won't look bad. Thanks for that tip on the tape to use. I'll treat my games with the utmost care, of course. I just hope airport security never kills it. I brought my Pokemon Puzzle League for Gameboy Color on a plane once, and after it went through the scanner-thing all of my data got erased. Thanks a lot, airport.

And awesome duct tape-related story: my friend made a cover for his DS out of Duct Tape. Like, to cover everything except for the buttons so he can play with it on. It sort of makes my Sonic Rush cover seem boring.
 

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What do people have against third!

It was actually a good one. I don't mind it as much when you make third gen. third, but if anyone is last it should be fourth.

I respect your opinions but I seem to be the only one that defends 3rd gen. so I have to do it
 

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What do people have against third!

It was actually a good one. I don't mind it as much when you make third gen. third, but if anyone is last it should be fourth.

I respect your opinions but I seem to be the only one that defends 3rd gen. so I have to do it
Well I like only them teams and the Battle frontier, thats it, oh and about 7 pokemon, but when Gen 4 brought back some gen1/2 aspects it made you like it more



"Talking bout my generation" if you dont know this line, then I cant help you:psycho:
 

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WAIT!!!!...you mean people actually debate this?...lol, If you don't think GSC were the best gens then you're mad. JK. But my vote goes to GSC versions
 

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What do people have against third!

It was actually a good one. I don't mind it as much when you make third gen. third, but if anyone is last it should be fourth.

I respect your opinions but I seem to be the only one that defends 3rd gen. so I have to do it
I don't know, I feel the same way. I mean, I put it in third place but it's competing with such awesome games as Red/Blue and Gold/Silver/Crystal -- so being in third doesn't mean anything. Last does, because Fourth gen fails all over the place.

But I really don't understand the third gen hate. My friend refuses to even play the third gen games. I don't know why. His favorite Pokemon is even from there -- Kirlia -- but he refuses to play it. I'm sure he gave me reasons but when he told me this I was sort of in disbelief so I don't remember anything, other than your dad being a Gym Leader (apparently he's not supposed to exist?). I tried to convince him, but he didn't listen.
Then again, this same friend thought I was insane for hating Sonic and the Secret Rings, so his credibility in regards to how good a game is is minimal at best.

Another one of my friends wanted to pick up a GBA game, and I advised the REAL third gen (not the remakes) but he's still leaning towards the remakes. Honestly, I didn't enjoy the remakes all that much. It felt so...not first gen. I don't know what it was, but it just didn't feel like a remake. It felt like a completely different game to me. And he doesn't have Red or Blue (only Yellow), so I, being a big fan of first gen, told him to get that. But apparently he tried getting a Red Version and it didn't work or something, and he just wants to get Fire Red instead. I told him it doesn't work as a replacement (just as G/S remakes couldn't replace the internal battery-less originals), but he's still convinced it will. Bah.

Also, Bowser, question; how did you get your game open to replace the battery? I keep trying with a screwdriver and that bizarre screw will not budge.
 

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I'm gonna have to say Generation 2, mainly because you could have all Generation 1 pokemon plus more, AND you could go back to Kanto.

They're both the best though, anything past that isn't the same.
 

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I hope people have good expectations for 5th gen. If not then our worst nightmare will come. pOKEMON will LIVE off of NOOBS
 

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I hope people have good expectations for 5th gen. If not then our worst nightmare will come. pOKEMON will LIVE off of NOOBS


I don't care if noobs play or not, as long as I'm playing with my friends who've been playing since the 90's or have at least played a few gen's then I'm good.

I agree with the above poster to.

Let people who weren't here for the Second Gen get a remake.
It'll give them a chance to see a whole new story, and it'll give us oldies a chance to view GSC in the NDS' beauty.
 

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I don't care if noobs play or not, as long as I'm playing with my friends who've been playing since the 90's or have at least played a few gen's then I'm good.

I agree with the above poster to.

Let people who weren't here for the Second Gen get a remake.
It'll give them a chance to see a whole new story, and it'll give us oldies a chance to view GSC in the NDS' beauty.
what you just said makes complete sence. Also, I would want to wait for 5th gen. so Nintendo can have a chance to realize that they are making Pokmon way to easy.
 

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But I really don't understand the third gen hate. My friend refuses to even play the third gen games ... I'm sure he gave me reasons but when he told me this I was sort of in disbelief so I don't remember anything, other than your dad being a Gym Leader (apparently he's not supposed to exist?).
Now that is a dumb reason to not like a game.
 

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FIRST GENERATION for GOD TIER!!!
SECOND GEN. for TOP TIER
FIFTH FOR MIDDLE tier
THIRD & FOURTH for bottom tier

but seriously, IMO I really don't care for the newer generations which I lost my interest for the long, long ago, I say this because the anime just isn't the same as it used to be, the first generation of pokemon was just EPIC since it included a bunch of mu favorites such as Squirtle, Charizard, Mewtwo, etc.., and the gym battles, how awesome where those, especially the Earth Badge which is like my ALL TIME FAVORITE

Second Generation is alright which took place in Johto, I indeed liked some of the pokemon, and enjoyed seeing some newer additions to the line-up of 151, especially some of the Legends such as Ho-oh, whose Identity was finally revealed since making his appearance on the first episode of Pokemon.

as third came along, I did enjoy some of the pokemon such as Blaziken & Treeko, but I was beggining to "grow out" of this since IMO it was getting kinda of old and stupid seeing that they would never stop with Pokemon, and this folks, is where I lost interest in seeing any future generations, which I could care less
 

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FIRST GENERATION for GOD TIER!!!
SECOND GEN. for TOP TIER
FIFTH FOR MIDDLE tier
THIRD & FOURTH for bottom tier

but seriously, IMO I really don't care for the newer generations which I lost my interest for the long, long ago, I say this because the anime just isn't the same as it used to be, the first generation of pokemon was just EPIC since it included a bunch of mu favorites such as Squirtle, Charizard, Mewtwo, etc.., and the gym battles, how awesome where those, especially the Earth Badge which is like my ALL TIME FAVORITE

Second Generation is alright which took place in Johto, I indeed liked some of the pokemon, and enjoyed seeing some newer additions to the line-up of 151, especially some of the Legends such as Ho-oh, whose Identity was finally revealed since making his appearance on the first episode of Pokemon.

as third came along, I did enjoy some of the pokemon such as Blaziken & Treeko, but I was beggining to "grow out" of this since IMO it was getting kinda of old and stupid seeing that they would never stop with Pokemon, and this folks, is where I lost interest in seeing any future generations, which I could care less
We're pretty much talking about the games here, not the TV Show. I think most of us would agree that the anime stopped being good around Johto.
 

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Third Gen Anime was actually good if Max wasn't in it.

First gen was great..

But.. honestly... I don't see why people forget about third generation games?
They're great. Contests were added -- which were probably the best addition yet.
Most of the oldies were in it.

The only thing bad about it was the fact that night/day was taken out, but I lived without.

I played the Third generation almost longer than the second, though, so it was great.
 

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We're pretty much talking about the games here, not the TV Show. I think most of us would agree that the anime stopped being good around Johto.
okay then if that's the case, then I have to go with what I stated before which would be:

Red/Blue/Yellow Fire Red/Green Leaf for GOD Tier!

why you may ask? because this is where it all began, Red( the trainer) began his quest on alongside with his rival Blue, and I think the whole plot was simply awesome, Team Rocket taking over Saffron, Pikachu following you around (in yellow) and not to mention the best duel ever! Red vs. Giovanni at the viridian Gym which was just epic, plus the Elite Four at the end, especially Lance was one of the coolest theme songs i've ever heard, plus after the end of the game, how cool was it to go back to the previously unaccesible unknown dungeon to capture my favorite pokemon of all time, yea that's right it's Mewtwo.

Gold/Silver/Crystal:

this sequel to the series of games was awesome, especially playing as a new male trainer (Gold) or female trainer in crystal, along with this came a new Rival (silver) who in the beginning had snatched of of Elm's starter pokemon and had kinda of a rowdy attitude, anyway these new sequels had new features such as the Day/Night system in real time which allowed for certain events to happen at certain Days/Times which gave it a twist for enjoyment on my part, the overall plot wasn't as good as it was in R/B/Y, but still awesome enough to see what was next, one thing I was dissapointed to see is that the Elite Five this time around was WAY TOO EASY, I was expecting a challenge but oh well. IMO it was good seeing and visiting the Kanto region which had brought alot of memories, plus seeing old faces faces such as Brock and Blue, speaking of Blue, it should have been Giovanni as the Viridian gym leader since I like missed him, but yea the best part of the game I enjoed was the Final Fight against Pokemon Trainer Red which was epic!

as for Ruby/ Sapphire I never got to really finish it since well.. I lacked interest in it, but I am willing to give it another chance this time around, as for Diamond and Pearl I hear it's a great game and seeing i've never played it, who has a suggestion of what I should play

Ruby/Sapphire or Diamond/ Pearl
 

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okay then if that's the case, then I have to go with what I stated before which would be:

Red/Blue/Yellow Fire Red/Green Leaf for GOD Tier!

why you may ask? because this is where it all began, Red( the trainer) began his quest on alongside with his rival Blue, and I think the whole plot was simply awesome, Team Rocket taking over Saffron, Pikachu following you around (in yellow) and not to mention the best duel ever! Red vs. Giovanni at the viridian Gym which was just epic, plus the Elite Four at the end, especially Lance was one of the coolest theme songs i've ever heard, plus after the end of the game, how cool was it to go back to the previously unaccesible unknown dungeon to capture my favorite pokemon of all time, yea that's right it's Mewtwo.

Gold/Silver/Crystal:

this sequel to the series of games was awesome, especially playing as a new male trainer (Gold) or female trainer in crystal, along with this came a new Rival (silver) who in the beginning had snatched of of Elm's starter pokemon and had kinda of a rowdy attitude, anyway these new sequels had new features such as the Day/Night system in real time which allowed for certain events to happen at certain Days/Times which gave it a twist for enjoyment on my part, the overall plot wasn't as good as it was in R/B/Y, but still awesome enough to see what was next, one thing I was dissapointed to see is that the Elite Five this time around was WAY TOO EASY, I was expecting a challenge but oh well. IMO it was good seeing and visiting the Kanto region which had brought alot of memories, plus seeing old faces faces such as Brock and Blue, speaking of Blue, it should have been Giovanni as the Viridian gym leader since I like missed him, but yea the best part of the game I enjoed was the Final Fight against Pokemon Trainer Red which was epic!

as for Ruby/ Sapphire I never got to really finish it since well.. I lacked interest in it, but I am willing to give it another chance this time around, as for Diamond and Pearl I hear it's a great game and seeing i've never played it, who has a suggestion of what I should play

Ruby/Sapphire or Diamond/ Pearl
I'm getting Diamond and Pearl, but overall I would stick with R/S/E (Emerald is the best), unless of course you're a graphics and features guy.

You have a LOT more to accomplish in R/S/E than what you'd expect though and that's what I like about it.

It is pretty easy, I'll admit.
But then again I hear D/P are easier.



Also --- from what I've seen so far the D/P pokemon look terrible (except Piplup)
 

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I'm getting Diamond and Pearl, but overall I would stick with R/S/E (Emerald is the best), unless of course you're a graphics and features guy.

You have a LOT more to accomplish in R/S/E than what you'd expect though and that's what I like about it.

It is pretty easy, I'll admit.
But then again I hear D/P are easier.

Also --- from what I've seen so far the D/P pokemon look terrible (except Piplup)
I'm with this. If you're debating between R/S/E and D/P, stick with R/S/E. Emerald is the best, but I think the others are great as well. Diamond and Pearl have just about one thing that make me want to play it over anything else; the Physical/Special difference. The fact that Fire Punch is physical and Hyper Beam is Special just makes sense. Other than that, R/S/E wins for me. Diamond and Pearl have slightly improved graphics, but honestly, the pseudo-3D doesn't look that much better. The game is extraordinarily easy, I beat it in 20 hours using one Pokemon after I'd only played through the game...what, 2 times before?

It has some nice features, but overall unless you play Diamond/Pearl and go back to third generation you're not going to notice it. 3rd gen's plot is pretty interesting in my opinion, the journey is difficult, there's all sorts of locations, most of the music is good, and if you get Emerald, there's TONS to do after you beat the Elite Four. There's a lot you can do after the Elite Four in Diamond/Pearl too, but most of it involves catching one of the 8 million legendaries or filling up your Pokedex in other ways. Emerald has new and exciting things to do after the Elite Four. Ruby and Sapphire probably have about as much to do after the Elite Four as Diamond/Pearl, I'll be honest with you, but I still prefer them.
 

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My favorite is Generation 1, mostly because they're the Pokemon that I've known ever since I was a kid, and I am most familiar with them.

If I could say my second-favorite, it would be the Gold/Silver/Crystal generation.
 
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