• Welcome to Smashboards, the world's largest Super Smash Brothers community! Over 250,000 Smash Bros. fans from around the world have come to discuss these great games in over 19 million posts!

    You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor. Click here to sign up right now and start on your path in the Smash community!

Best Generation

PraKirJaq

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Aug 8, 2006
Messages
206
Location
Richardson, Texas
Second generation. Stallish, yes, but it was probably the most strategy based as well with an emphasis on team synergy. A single crit won't win/cost you the battle; you could recover from that MUCH more easily in GSC. Also, UU pokes were probably more viable IMO since they could use all effort points and could survive pretty well. Most nowadays only have enough to a) dish out enough damage b) survive.
 

PD4FR

Smash Ace
Joined
Jun 11, 2008
Messages
631
I think that the first generation is the best. I've had it a lot longer than Emerald, Gold, etc., but it is the only one that doesn't get boring. Also, who agrees with me in saying that Emerald, silver, diamond, and other non-1stgen. games get boring once you've restarted it after beating it the first time?
 

zrky

Smash Lol'd
Joined
Jun 1, 2008
Messages
3,265
Location
Nashville
I think that the first generation is the best. I've had it a lot longer than Emerald, Gold, etc., but it is the only one that doesn't get boring. Also, who agrees with me in saying that Emerald, silver, diamond, and other non-1stgen. games get boring once you've restarted it after beating it the first time?
I actually think it's the other way around, I think that especially Emerald have a lot more of a Post-game plot and are still fun. The only thing that might be fun in the 1st gens is the glitches that it has.
 

Bowser King

Have It Your Way
Joined
Aug 7, 2007
Messages
4,737
Location
Ontario, Canada
I think that the first generation is the best. I've had it a lot longer than Emerald, Gold, etc., but it is the only one that doesn't get boring. Also, who agrees with me in saying that Emerald, silver, diamond, and other non-1stgen. games get boring once you've restarted it after beating it the first time?
I disagree. Theres far less stuff to do.
1st Gen
1)beat story
2)catch mewtwo
3)catch legendary birds
3) pika surfing?


2nd Gen
1)complete story
2)bug catching
3) battle tower (crystal only ?)
4)all of kanto!
5)fight red and climb Mt.silver
6)nationaldex
7)catch legendary dogs
8)catch two legendary birds

3rd Gen
1)complete story
2)catch kyogre and groudon (emerald)
3)battle tower
4)battle frontier(emerald)
5)nationaldex
6)catch legendaries
8)pokemon contests & berry blending

4th gen
1)complete story
2)amity square
3)pokemon contests & poffin making
4)survival area & and mountain
5)battle tower
6) battle frontier like area (platnium)
7)save little kid from nightmare
8)ctach alot of legendaries (regigigas, heatren, cresselia, girtina)
9)and alot more...

as you can see there actually getting less boring (mabye not storywise but from stuff to do, yes.


I actually think it's the other way around, I think that especially Emerald have a lot more of a Post-game plot and are still fun. The only thing that might be fun in the 1st gens is the glitches that it has.
Agreed.
 

PD4FR

Smash Ace
Joined
Jun 11, 2008
Messages
631
I guess I have to agree with you two, but I was trying to give respect to how good the first games were.:) I guess they aren't as good:ohwell:
 

M.K

Level 55
Joined
Jul 10, 2007
Messages
6,033
Location
North Carolina
Yeah. But at least Spheal is cute. Its evolutions fail, though. Never liked either of them.

But yeah, we have, in the category of fish;

  1. Magikarp
  2. Qwilfish
  3. Remoraid
  4. Carvanha
  5. Sharpedo
  6. Whiscash
  7. Relicanth
  8. Luvdisc (wonder what they were on when they invented this one?)
  9. Kyogre
  10. Finneon
  11. Lumineon

And that's a loose list. There are probably some that can/cannot count as fish, but um...yeah. ELEVEN general fish. What are you thinking?
LOL-

Goldeen
Seaking

Can't forget the fishiest of FISH!
 

SmashAura4

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Jun 23, 2008
Messages
186
Location
Way up on Mt. Coronet
I will forever love the 1st generation, because Squirtle was my first ever pokemon.

I would also like to add that the 4th generation isn't that bad. I brought us Torterra and Lucario, so it's not a complete letdown. Although, I do question the Lickylicky. What compeled them to make that thing? It's creepy, like a quagsire.
 

Firus

You know what? I am good.
BRoomer
Joined
Apr 7, 2008
Messages
7,681
NNID
OctagonalWalnut
3DS FC
0619-4291-4974
Celebi says hi. The disappointing thing about Shaymin is that it's one of the only legendaries that have shallow movepools. IMO, it's the massive movepools that makes legendaries ubers. Also, Shaymin does have an alternate form in Pokemon Platinum, that may be the source of the ninja skills you speak of.
Failed Potato = Sky Forme Shaymin. That's what I call it, because it is a failed potato, end of story.

Celebi may be part Grass type, but first of all, it's a dual-type. Second of all, it's an event legendary which I have never been able to obtain legitimately (to my great disappointment). I want an in-game Grass Legendary that's really epic, like Mewtwo epic.

Gen I
-- In my opinion, the Pokemon in this gen were even weirder than the ones in the newer generations. Seriously, Mr. Mime and Jynx didn't seem like "Pokemon". They seemed more like humans. Also, there was an assload of useless pokemon in this gen. 80% of the Pokemon weren't worth capturing, and collecting them all felt like you were raising weak Pokemon you would never use again. Attacks didn't even have stats, so it's almost impossible to know how strong an attack really is. Learning moves is like, "Hey! This animation looks cooler so I'll keep this attack!". Nobody can tell whether flamethrower is better than fire spin. The same problem goes with accuracy. Battling via link cable was also pretty lame. After the new features added in the next generations, r/b/y seemed like crap.
If you ask me, Mr. Mime and Jynx are still too humanoid.
And R/B/Y seeming like crap...how dare you! I can see where you're coming from, but yeah, first gen will always win at life.

Gen II
-- Significantly better than the original. More Pokemon made catching them all seem impossible, but as you get farther in the game, you realize that there's only 100 more to go, and it seemed plausible. Being able to press A to use an HM on the field (i.e. surf and cut) was a huge time saver. Numbers were added to tell how strong a move was too. Being the only Pokemon game with two regions made this game stand out. Up to 16 badges could be collected, too bad you can only see 8 of them. Breeding Pokemon was introduced. Legendary dogs that run away from you...There's a lot more this gen has to offer, but I haven't played it in a while. This game was one of the best, however still has the issue of useless Pokemon.
Second gen definitely had some features that make the first gen games (almost) unplayable. It comes in a very close second for me.

Gen III
-- Personally, my favorite of all generations. RUNNING was introduced, pure win. 202 Pokemon in the Pokedex, because of this I actually tried completing my Pokedex, and succeeded. I recommend the newer Pokemon games to have around 200-300 Pokemon, just like what r/s did by removing some Pokemon. By removing the less popular Pokemon, the more useless Pokemon seemed to have vanished away. Though useless Pokemon were still evident (Spinda... he's still good for EV training sp.atk), they were less common. Two different bikes made exploration *gasp* FUN! Backtracking to explore new areas was enjoyable with HMs, but now you can actually do some exploration without the help of your Pokemon. Doing bunny hops with the Acro Bike will never get old, as re-trekking through the Sky Pillar with the Mach Bike. Tons of new attacks, abilities, pokemon contests, tons of berries, double battles, and secret bases made everything a fun experience. The trick house (whatever it's called) south of Mauville City was one of my most favorite things in the whole game. I also love the ocean. Back in the day, surfing in water had the same wild pokemon rate has grass. Surfing no longer gives you a billion random battles with Tentacool! Team Magma and Team Aqua, villians with *gasp* realistic goals! Easily most improved Pokemon game[/QUOTE]

3rd gen I also really liked. It still loses to the first two gens for me, but I'm a total retro geek (just look at my avatar :laugh:) so that's not exactly surprising. The Pokemon introduced bugged me, but other than that, it was a great gen. Well, that and the evil organizations.
REALISTC goals? Turning the world into completely water/land is realistic? Meanwhile, instead of just...oh, capturing the Pokemon, they use little orbs to try to control them and fail. Unrealistic goals and stupid, in my opinion. At least Team Rocket seemed evil.

Gen IV
-- WiFi, massive Pokedex, Poketch, and many other features made their debut in d/p. Team Galactic were total pushovers... with good taste in music. Some evolutions weren't needed, others just needed better sprites. Gastrodon looks ugly as **** from behind (literally). Tangrowth wasn't very creative, Lickilicky needed a new name, and less body fat. Seriously, Lickitung needed an evolution, but not into THIS thing... I'd rather have a Lickitung with two heads than Lickilicky. Probopass needs a Mario stache', not this chimney cleaner. Having ALL 493 Pokemon in the Pokedex makes it near impossible to complete. The new Pokemon contests require timing and luck instead of skill (r/s). If the new Pokemon didn't suck, pokemon contests strill require skill, amity park lets you bring in what YOU think pokemon are cute, etc etc... d/p could've been better. Many, many apps on the Poketch were useless. If more sidequests, and maybe some story required you to use the Poketch, it would've been cool. The only real use I had for it was to find hidden items (good), see when my pokemon laid an egg (good), find cresselia and azelf (okay I guess), and to check my Pokemon's friendship (good). Everything else was mostly crap. The underground had so much more potential, they could keep the ability to fight the owner of the secret base, and let the other player's secret base stay there instead of disappearing when they had to go. If the underground actually progressed the story, it would've been cool. But it was just a side feature, so that random npcs could talk about how "cool" it is. Capturing Spiritomb was also a hassle.
Correction; Probopass needs to fall off a cliff, at the bottom of which there is a pit of poisoned, very sharp, spikes. And then acid needs to be poured on it. It fails in life.

Another correction; you mean Mesprit, not Azelf. But yeah, I think I might've been better off without the app...that way I wouldn't have to catch either of those Pokemon (Cresselia especially).

Now that the bad is done, some good parts include physical/special split. I always wanted this since gen I. New attacks are very refreshing. New effects for attacks are also nice (gyro ball ftw). Battling mechanics are very well suited for competition. New type combinations are also very interesting (toxicroak=awesome). I only wish there were more Pokemon with the same type pairing, instead of recycling old type pairings (i.e. more water/steel, less water/ground we have 4 of them already: quagsire, whiscash, swampert, gastrodon). Tons of new hold items makes competitive battling even more interesting. Light Clay to extend Reflect and Light Screen's longevity, Heat Rock, Wet Rock, etc for extending weather. If only if there was something to improve Tailwind... it only lasts 3 turns instead of 5, and there's no item to improve it. Trick Room allows the originally useless Pokemon to have some potential. Shuckle+Trick Room+Power Trick= moar power than Deoxys-f and Marowak with Thick Club. In conclusion, d/p is good for competition, horrible for story.

tl;dr: III>IV>II>I generations.
D/P did have a lot of very sensible additions. The Physical/Special split was really necessary, and they did add a lot of nice hold items.

As for your final analysis, in theory, I think that's how it should work. However, I think the fact that I'm the most nostalgic person you'll ever meet, that I'm totally against new games, and that Generation 1 is just AWESOME in many ways (despite the lack of some features) changes that to a numerical order instead. Something about Generation 3 really caught my eye, but I still like the first two gens better. I don't pretend to understand it.

****it, I have gorilla glue stuck on my fingers AND NOW THE KEYBOARD.
You do not understand how much I just erupted with laughter. I'm not entirely sure why it was so funny to me but it was...it was like a "lolcano" (:laugh:).

I think that the first generation is the best. I've had it a lot longer than Emerald, Gold, etc., but it is the only one that doesn't get boring. Also, who agrees with me in saying that Emerald, silver, diamond, and other non-1stgen. games get boring once you've restarted it after beating it the first time?
I agree. I know it makes no sense, but honestly, that's how it works for me. I enjoy replaying them so much more than the other games.

LOL-

Goldeen
Seaking

Can't forget the fishiest of FISH!
Plus feebas.
Yeah, I realized I forgot those afterwards, and...yeah, I was too lazy to add them. I figured you guys got the point.

I will forever love the 1st generation, because Squirtle was my first ever pokemon.

I would also like to add that the 4th generation isn't that bad. I brought us Torterra and Lucario, so it's not a complete letdown. Although, I do question the Lickylicky. What compeled them to make that thing? It's creepy, like a quagsire.
Quote of the year.
Agreed, I'm going to have to use that now. ;)
 

Spire

III
BRoomer
Joined
Apr 13, 2008
Messages
15,079
Location
Texas
Failed Potato = Sky Forme Shaymin. That's what I call it, because it is a failed potato, end of story.

Celebi may be part Grass type, but first of all, it's a dual-type. Second of all, it's an event legendary which I have never been able to obtain legitimately (to my great disappointment). I want an in-game Grass Legendary that's really epic, like Mewtwo epic.
These are words of truth. From the "failed potato" rant to the grass-legendary rant. We need both - the omission of Shaymin's Sky Form (**** the e at the end, I will not conforme!), and a superb grass legendary. Just Grass, no dual-type. Something big and.... grassy... like the Great Deku Tree or something.

3rd gen I also really liked.
You know, I don't think I've been too vocal about it before, but I loved the 3rd gen. I can't remember much from the 2nd gen, and although I enjoyed it thoroughly, it just felt like an expansion to gen 1, just like gen 4 feels like an expansion to 3. The thing with Gen 1 and 3 is that both kind of "start new trends". The regional dexes in both revolved so prominently around all of the Pokemon new and native to that region (especially the first gen for obvious reasons). Generation 3 just felt new, and fresh in its entirety. A new, tropical land, with a volcano, a desert, rainforests, etc, etc. Every time I think of the third gen, I think of Tropius. Something about that Pokemon stands out above all else. For me, it capitalizes the "tropic" feel of the entire land, and given its rarity, it feels like a demi-legendary, kind of along the lines of Arcanine's legendary status.

Overall, I just really enjoyed the third gen, and have found myself playing the games from that generation more than any other (besides first gen).
 

Zook

Perpetual Lazy Bum
Joined
Jul 30, 2005
Messages
5,178
Location
Stamping your library books.
Sorry if this is a little late (Which it is) but... I don't know of anyone who plays Pokemon soley in-game. In fact, most of the community uses online battling programs like Shoddy Battle. Pokemon has NEVER had a good story line (Although I'd say first gen was the best... Maybe second gen), and expecting them to make a game with a great one is just dumb. Personally, I prefer the air would like it if they were to try and make a solid game that didn't rely on player interaction to be fun, but I don't expect it.
 

Bowser King

Have It Your Way
Joined
Aug 7, 2007
Messages
4,737
Location
Ontario, Canada
You know, I don't think I've been too vocal about it before, but I loved the 3rd gen. I can't remember much from the 2nd gen, and although I enjoyed it thoroughly, it just felt like an expansion to gen 1, just like gen 4 feels like an expansion to 3. The thing with Gen 1 and 3 is that both kind of "start new trends". The regional dexes in both revolved so prominently around all of the Pokemon new and native to that region (especially the first gen for obvious reasons). Generation 3 just felt new, and fresh in its entirety. A new, tropical land, with a volcano, a desert, rainforests, etc, etc. Every time I think of the third gen, I think of Tropius. Something about that Pokemon stands out above all else. For me, it capitalizes the "tropic" feel of the entire land, and given its rarity, it feels like a demi-legendary, kind of along the lines of Arcanine's legendary status.

Overall, I just really enjoyed the third gen, and have found myself playing the games from that generation more than any other (besides first gen).

o_O thats the same with me. Whenever I think of the third gen (especially emerald) I think of tropius. For ruby though I sometimes thought of zangoose. Not sure about saphire though. Anyway I loved how it brought so many environments into 1 game. Thats why I sometimes play it today and just walk around (no using fly) and just see how each area looks. Yes thats a bit weird but I find it fun.
 

M.K

Level 55
Joined
Jul 10, 2007
Messages
6,033
Location
North Carolina
Gen II > Gen I > Gen IV > Gen III

Gen II was amazing because even after defeating the Elite Four, you traveled to an entire new region, you can get so many of the 251 Pokemon!! INSANE!
 

Spire

III
BRoomer
Joined
Apr 13, 2008
Messages
15,079
Location
Texas
o_O thats the same with me. Whenever I think of the third gen (especially emerald) I think of tropius. For ruby though I sometimes thought of zangoose. Not sure about saphire though. Anyway I loved how it brought so many environments into 1 game. Thats why I sometimes play it today and just walk around (no using fly) and just see how each area looks. Yes thats a bit weird but I find it fun.
Deserts are my favorite, and to date, the desert in Hoenn was just awesome. Cacturne? One of the best Pokemon ever. A scarecrow cactus.

I explore Zelda games all the time - especially Twilight Princess. Sometimes, I'll pick it up, and just explore any and everywhere for hours - taking in the landscapes, and looking for clues that reveal relations between it and Ocarina of Time. I've found quite a bit that most are probably not aware of.
 

Firus

You know what? I am good.
BRoomer
Joined
Apr 7, 2008
Messages
7,681
NNID
OctagonalWalnut
3DS FC
0619-4291-4974
These are words of truth. From the "failed potato" rant to the grass-legendary rant. We need both - the omission of Shaymin's Sky Form (**** the e at the end, I will not conforme!), and a superb grass legendary. Just Grass, no dual-type. Something big and.... grassy... like the Great Deku Tree or something.
OH MY GOD.

Great Deku Tree for Generation V. Who's with me?

You know, I don't think I've been too vocal about it before, but I loved the 3rd gen. I can't remember much from the 2nd gen, and although I enjoyed it thoroughly, it just felt like an expansion to gen 1, just like gen 4 feels like an expansion to 3. The thing with Gen 1 and 3 is that both kind of "start new trends". The regional dexes in both revolved so prominently around all of the Pokemon new and native to that region (especially the first gen for obvious reasons). Generation 3 just felt new, and fresh in its entirety. A new, tropical land, with a volcano, a desert, rainforests, etc, etc. Every time I think of the third gen, I think of Tropius. Something about that Pokemon stands out above all else. For me, it capitalizes the "tropic" feel of the entire land, and given its rarity, it feels like a demi-legendary, kind of along the lines of Arcanine's legendary status.

Overall, I just really enjoyed the third gen, and have found myself playing the games from that generation more than any other (besides first gen).
Yeah, I could never really put my finger on it at all, but you managed to state so very eloquently exactly the thoughts that I've had but never been able to put into words. Generation III just feels so separate, so free. Still like Pokemon, but still its own thing. Generation II I love, but at the same time, you're right--it's no more than an expansion on the first generation. The only part that doesn't describe how I feel is Tropius. The third generation Pokemon were forgettable for me, for the most part. Tropius even more so--I ran into it and caught it to add it to my Pokedex, and have never done anything more with it. Tropius is not necessarily a Pokemon that I dislike, but one that I don't think about much.

But yeah, third generation just has a magic to it that makes it really great. Again, if I weren't such a retro geek, it might be second on my list.

Sorry if this is a little late (Which it is) but... I don't know of anyone who plays Pokemon soley in-game. In fact, most of the community uses online battling programs like Shoddy Battle. Pokemon has NEVER had a good story line (Although I'd say first gen was the best... Maybe second gen), and expecting them to make a game with a great one is just dumb. Personally, I prefer the air would like it if they were to try and make a solid game that didn't rely on player interaction to be fun, but I don't expect it.
Well, now you do. I play Pokemon in-game and that's all. Then again, that sort of stuff is a competitive type of thing, and I don't get much into the competitive scene of any game, but I still have never used that type of stuff.

Deserts are my favorite, and to date, the desert in Hoenn was just awesome. Cacturne? One of the best Pokemon ever. A scarecrow cactus.

I explore Zelda games all the time - especially Twilight Princess. Sometimes, I'll pick it up, and just explore any and everywhere for hours - taking in the landscapes, and looking for clues that reveal relations between it and Ocarina of Time. I've found quite a bit that most are probably not aware of.
The breathtaking environments are part of why I love the Zelda and Metroid games--they both are awesome at creating that. Super Metroid, for example, goes from the verdant forest of Green Brinstar, to the dank-feeling eerie environment of Red Brinstar/Kraid's Lair, to the blazing fires of Norfair, the even hotter fires of Lower Norfair, the cool waters of Maridia, to the ghastly Abandoned Ship. It's full of all different environments, and I love that. Metroid Prime was another game great at that--the desert-like Chozo Ruins, the lava-filled Magmoor Caverns (with epic music from Lower Norfair), the eerie Phazon Mines, and my personal favorite, the Phendrana Drifts. Well, most of it. I hated the Space Pirate Labs (more eerie-ness). The Zelda games do a similar thing. I love visiting all of those extremes in environments, which is part of what made me not like Prime 3 as much--Bryyo was very general, and Fire and Ice Bryyo didn't have the same feel the Magmoor Caverns and Phendrana Drifts did--plus, you didn't stay in Ice Bryyo for more than 5 minutes. Skytown was probably my favorite environment in the entire game--I love the City in the Sky (I believe that's what it was called) from Twilight Princess the most as well. Something about the sky is just plain awesome. That and icy areas are my favorite. In any case, the Pirate Homeworld and Phaaze were just too bland for my tastes. The Valhalla was creepy as hell, which I don't necessarily like, but that was probably the other very defined environment in the game.

...Okay, ending the Metroid environment rant, I love that about third generation. The fourth generation has nothing that feels the same way. There's an icy area, but...it just didn't feel the same, just like Prime 3.

Hoenn was definately the most beautiful. And I want REAL secret bases back!
Agreed, TOTALLY agreed!
(If anyone can tell me what that's a reference to (and you probably won't be able to), they get a giant cookie.)
 

Bowser King

Have It Your Way
Joined
Aug 7, 2007
Messages
4,737
Location
Ontario, Canada
Real secret bases were awsome! Me and my friends used to make our secret bases near the waterfall close to the rainforest city. We would live in those double houses then mix records so his secret base was always beside mines. Even my old friend that moved mixed records with his best team so that one day I would be able to beat him even though he moved (although I truely never beat him till 4th gen, wifi, but always having the feeling that I could challenge him, like red from G/S/C was great). Plus I got a lot of exp from battling him :p.
 

Firus

You know what? I am good.
BRoomer
Joined
Apr 7, 2008
Messages
7,681
NNID
OctagonalWalnut
3DS FC
0619-4291-4974
Real secret bases were awsome! Me and my friends used to make our secret bases near the waterfall close to the rainforest city. We would live in those double houses then mix records so his secret base was always beside mines. Even my old friend that moved mixed records with his best team so that one day I would be able to beat him even though he moved (although I truely never beat him till 4th gen, wifi, but always having the feeling that I could challenge him, like red from G/S/C was great). Plus I got a lot of exp from battling him :p.
Yeah, I actually used the secret bases kind of cheaply. What I did was use the Emerald duplicating trick to duplicate my team. Then, I made their movesets really bad (like one attack only, that attack being Rain Dance, Sunny Day, stuff like that that does no damage). I had two lv 100s on my team, and the rest of them were fairly high levels. Then, I mixed records and fought using that same team, so as to train the Pokemon that weren't quite level 100. My Blaziken and Swampert, they got trained to lv 100 while I was finishing my Pokedex (Hoenn Dex, that is), going through the Elite Four with an Exp. Share on weak Pokemon to make them evolve. The rest got to level 100 that way, with the Secret Bases.

I know it's kind of cheap, but fighting the Elite Four when the only purpose is to train gets really boring, especially at really high levels since they go up to what, 60 max?

But yeah, real Secret Bases were awesome. That's not the only thing I used them for, that's just a particular instance that I recall.
 

zrky

Smash Lol'd
Joined
Jun 1, 2008
Messages
3,265
Location
Nashville
Yeah, I actually used the secret bases kind of cheaply. What I did was use the Emerald duplicating trick to duplicate my team. Then, I made their movesets really bad (like one attack only, that attack being Rain Dance, Sunny Day, stuff like that that does no damage). I had two lv 100s on my team, and the rest of them were fairly high levels. Then, I mixed records and fought using that same team, so as to train the Pokemon that weren't quite level 100. My Blaziken and Swampert, they got trained to lv 100 while I was finishing my Pokedex (Hoenn Dex, that is), going through the Elite Four with an Exp. Share on weak Pokemon to make them evolve. The rest got to level 100 that way, with the Secret Bases.

I know it's kind of cheap, but fighting the Elite Four when the only purpose is to train gets really boring, especially at really high levels since they go up to what, 60 max?

But yeah, real Secret Bases were awesome. That's not the only thing I used them for, that's just a particular instance that I recall.
Yea, I also got tired of training with the Elite Four (although the easiest way). I never really used the bases much, but in D/P they completely messed that up.
 

Bassoonist

Smash Master
Joined
Jun 18, 2003
Messages
4,684
NNID
WoodwindsRock
3DS FC
1032-1351-5240
Second generation.

First generation was awesome, and started it all... However, second generation made some awesome improvements, and even catered to those of us who had played since the beginning (hence being able to go back to Kanto.) It was just so mind blowingly awesome at the time. (and still is to some extent) None of the new generation's games have had that feeling at all. Ruby was one of the most disappointing sequels I've ever played. They took away so much, and lost that awesome feeling that the first two generations had.

I still play Crystal (can't play G/S because their battery died. =/ ), and it is still a lot more fun than the newer games. Diamond made a nice improvement over Ruby though. I'll give it that. I'd put Diamond under the first generation, but over the third generation.

But I have reason to believe nothing can ever top the amount of fun that G/S/C brought. I just don't know why they took so much away in the third generation. It would have been nice if they at least would have let us go back to Johto or something, because going back to Kanto in G/S/C was just too awesome.

I'd still like to see a game where we go to ALL regions!
 

zrky

Smash Lol'd
Joined
Jun 1, 2008
Messages
3,265
Location
Nashville
Answer this: Which generation let you go in between regions?

Good old Jotoh, the only region that added new types (dark and steel).
-
1. Jotoh
2. Kanto
3. Sinnoh
4. Hoenn
How dare you make Hoenn last.

1.Hoenn
2.Johotto
3.Kanto
4.Sinnoh
 

Airgemini

Chansey
Joined
Jun 28, 2007
Messages
9,410
Location
Safari Zone. Shiny, and holding a Lucky Egg.
3DS FC
2406-5625-4787
1st Generation without a doubt. I also like the 2nd generation but everything after the 3rd I could really care less.
In the originals everything was so cool and nice but each generation of games is just so repetetive IMO. Basically all we see is more Pokemon being added. Some lame , some cool, and maybe some new features. I mean how long are they going to go with this? Until they create every Pokemon imaginable?

Anyways I like the 1st and 2nd.
 

Bassoonist

Smash Master
Joined
Jun 18, 2003
Messages
4,684
NNID
WoodwindsRock
3DS FC
1032-1351-5240
How dare you make Hoenn last.

1.Hoenn
2.Johotto
3.Kanto
4.Sinnoh
Hoenn belongs last... DEAD last.

I'd put the order the exact same way Tyfighter did. Hoenn was fun, but it can not compare to the rest. Especially not Johto or Kanto. Sinnoh at least brought back the time system, and it added the ability (Wi-Fi!) to get all Pokemon without going and buying several other games.

I really did not like how the third generation went. It seemed like a "new start" and I just think that was the wrong way to go. They should have improved on G/S/C (however possible that may be. XD). Hoenn would be fun to new Pokemon gamers, but to a lot of us it just didn't make the cut.
 

Firus

You know what? I am good.
BRoomer
Joined
Apr 7, 2008
Messages
7,681
NNID
OctagonalWalnut
3DS FC
0619-4291-4974
Hoenn belongs last... DEAD last.

I'd put the order the exact same way Tyfighter did. Hoenn was fun, but it can not compare to the rest. Especially not Johto or Kanto. Sinnoh at least brought back the time system, and it added the ability (Wi-Fi!) to get all Pokemon without going and buying several other games.

I really did not like how the third generation went. It seemed like a "new start" and I just think that was the wrong way to go. They should have improved on G/S/C (however possible that may be. XD). Hoenn would be fun to new Pokemon gamers, but to a lot of us it just didn't make the cut.
Hoenn is, to this date, the region with the most diverse climates. Regular grassy areas, a large area of ocean, islands, underwater areas, a volcano, caves, a desert...there are so many places in Hoenn, it's such a diverse place. HOENN didn't get rid of the time system, RUBY/SAPPHIRE/EMERALD did. Even though Sinnoh had the time system, it's one of the most boring regions. It is THE MOST boring region. There's a snowy place and a marsh. The rest of the game (aka 90% of it) is the same exact thing reiterated ad nauseum. I just played through the game, trust me. I can hardly even remember the town names because everything's exactly the same!
Plus, I think the sprites and tiles of Hoenn looked the best, out of any game. Obviously 1st and 2nd gen won't look as good, but FR/LG and D/P don't look as good as it in my opinion. Even with the 3D graphics in Sinnoh it didn't look as good.

For the region in and of itself, I'll give this;

  1. Hoenn
  2. Johto
  3. Kanto
  4. Orre
  5. Any glitch areas
  6. Sinnoh

Everything beats Sinnoh. Hoenn was creative and diverse. Johto was as well. Kanto didn't have as diverse of areas, but was still awesome. Orre didn't even come into discussion, but everything should beat Sinnoh because it's just so boring.

Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald did feel like a new start. And while Gold/Silver/Crystal were awesome, I think a new start was a great approach. Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald felt so new and different to me, and THAT is how Pokemon should be going. Not doing the same thing over with new Pokemon, as that's what they're doing. My only gripe with third gen is the Pokemon, as most of them are pretty forgettable. (Do I even need to give you the specific Pokemon I'm thinking of?)
 

Bassoonist

Smash Master
Joined
Jun 18, 2003
Messages
4,684
NNID
WoodwindsRock
3DS FC
1032-1351-5240
And R/S/E were the only games where you play through Hoenn, so Hoenn did not have a time system.

I don't care about the regions, it's the fun of the game. The third generation wasn't as fun as the rest. Besides I think the addition of snow in Sinnoh was awesome. Where was it in Hoenn? Hoenn's weather is boring. Who wants rain and a desert? Boring. =P

The only complaint I have about the "snow" in Sinnoh is that it counts it as hail in a battle... :ohwell:

I'd really like to see seasons in the fifth generation. That would be awesome.
 

Firus

You know what? I am good.
BRoomer
Joined
Apr 7, 2008
Messages
7,681
NNID
OctagonalWalnut
3DS FC
0619-4291-4974
And R/S/E were the only games where you play through Hoenn, so Hoenn did not have a time system.

I don't care about the regions, it's the fun of the game. The third generation wasn't as fun as the rest. Besides I think the addition of snow in Sinnoh was awesome. Where was it in Hoenn? Hoenn's weather is boring. Who wants rain and a desert? Boring. =P

The only complaint I have about the "snow" in Sinnoh is that it counts it as hail in a battle... :ohwell:

I'd really like to see seasons in the fifth generation. That would be awesome.
The actual overworld, the actual region is not the time. I'm talking about the locations in there. Time doesn't have anything to do with that. That's a gripe with R/S/E, not Hoenn itself.

Well, I found third generation to be very fun. The addition of snow would've been interesting had they had anything else in there. And it really wasn't that interesting, anyways. It's a nice addition, but nothing to say "Oh well, Sinnoh had snow. It wins!"
About Rain and a Desert, that's your opinion. A desert is actually very interesting.

Besides, I never said I put third generation first. As I've previously said in the thread, I put the GAMES in this order;

  1. First Generation
  2. Second Generation
  3. Third Generation
  4. Fourth Generation

I just really liked Hoenn, and actually found third gen to be rather fun. And I really didn't like fourth gen all that much. Wasn't all that long or entirely difficult. I managed to beat it with a Shaymin and a Shaymin alone in two days, racking up a total of 20:55. I have further gripes with the fourth generation, but that's just one that hits me right off the bat and I'd really rather not go into every flaw I can think of.

The only thing about fourth gen that was really great was the physical/special separation.
 

zrky

Smash Lol'd
Joined
Jun 1, 2008
Messages
3,265
Location
Nashville
Firus, you made a really good point with third gen. I never thought of it in as many ways as you put it. In my personal opinion the order is
!.Third
2.second=first
3.pokemon ranger
4.fourth

D/Pincluded allot of great features, such as the GTS, but third had, as said before, a new start which gave it a great feeling to play. That is why it is my favorite pokemon game.
 

LUVTOY77-ROGUE WIREFRAME

Smash Champion
Joined
Jul 26, 2006
Messages
2,372
i enjoyed g/s/c the most.

reasons:

1)concept of new pkmn was great

2)two gaes n 1, since u can visit kanto!!!

3)Even after you complete Kanto, there is STILL Red to take on. at least that's the order I played the game.
jhoto>kanto>red.

4)Day and Night system

5)Day care with breeding (never used day care in 1st gen.)

6)Battle tower (in crystal..wasn't that bigga deal 2 me though)

7)Kept the idea of getting all legendaries

8)Allowed you to play as a girl for the first time (crystal)

9)Introduced the unknown pokedex/unknown ruins. Puzzles weren't TO hard to figure out. Unlike in third gen. with a bunch of freakin' DOTS. Point is, unknown ruins was fun.

10) To me, Jhoto had some of the most memorable areas.

10)In general, was an awesome freakin' game.
I feel like the 2nd Generation of pokemon really got the franchise going, it terms of innovation, using new things, and what not. And oh yea! The cell phone. Best device EVER. And, 2nd gen. kept team rockt.!!!
 

Pika25

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Mar 18, 2008
Messages
175
Location
Texas
NNID
pika250
3DS FC
0173-1819-2264
In my best order: Second , Fourth , Third , First
 

Moy

Where's the coffee cake?
Joined
May 3, 2008
Messages
947
Location
Bolingbrook, IL
Slippi.gg
MOY#56
i enjoyed g/s/c the most.

reasons:

1)concept of new pkmn was great

2)two gaes n 1, since u can visit kanto!!!

3)Even after you complete Kanto, there is STILL Red to take on. at least that's the order I played the game.
jhoto>kanto>red.

4)Day and Night system

5)Day care with breeding (never used day care in 1st gen.)

6)Battle tower (in crystal..wasn't that bigga deal 2 me though)

7)Kept the idea of getting all legendaries

8)Allowed you to play as a girl for the first time (crystal)

9)Introduced the unknown pokedex/unknown ruins. Puzzles weren't TO hard to figure out. Unlike in third gen. with a bunch of freakin' DOTS. Point is, unknown ruins was fun.

10) To me, Jhoto had some of the most memorable areas.

10)In general, was an awesome freakin' game.
I feel like the 2nd Generation of pokemon really got the franchise going, it terms of innovation, using new things, and what not. And oh yea! The cell phone. Best device EVER. And, 2nd gen. kept team rockt.!!!
Thanks, that saved me from typing a lot. Second Gen was my favorite as well, mostly because of what you said.
 

Leech

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Jun 25, 2008
Messages
286
Location
Illinois
Gen 2 G/S/C It is the only game that me and my friend actually tried to get all of the pokemon in.. and we did.
There are two regions, both have 8 badges which adds up to 16 badges.
after you do that there is more to do. Fight Red, Get all Unown, Train Pokemon up and make the perfect team against your friends, etc.
But i guess this is my favorite Gen because it was the one that my friends played most so it was more fun going through the adventure with my friends.
Also I have The guide and it's the only pokemon game i got the guide from because it was free.. so i got all of the hidden items and extra help the times i did it with the guide..

Oh yeah and the music is the best in this game.
IMO 2Gen>4Gen>3Gen>1Gen
 

LUVTOY77-ROGUE WIREFRAME

Smash Champion
Joined
Jul 26, 2006
Messages
2,372
Music was pretty sweet in 2nd gen!

Yea 2nd gen. was the best, hands down. and the new pokemon were actually cool! as in, they resembld 1st gen--3rd and 4th don't, in my opinion..?
 

zrky

Smash Lol'd
Joined
Jun 1, 2008
Messages
3,265
Location
Nashville
Music was pretty sweet in 2nd gen!

Yea 2nd gen. was the best, hands down. and the new pokemon were actually cool! as in, they resembld 1st gen--3rd and 4th don't, in my opinion..?
I dont really know about the music since I like to play it without music. 2nd gen. was good. I still vote third gen for most overall creativity and best region.

the G/S remakes (if made) should be awesome
 

LUVTOY77-ROGUE WIREFRAME

Smash Champion
Joined
Jul 26, 2006
Messages
2,372
Gold and Silver remakes? Are they possibly in production? If they are...wholy crap that'd be awesome! G/S remakes would make the other generations look good! As in 4th mostly. That's how I feel.

Maybe it's just me, but when i see a pix of a pokemon, I don't like it. why? Cuz I like how they used 2 be drawn. Now they look TOO cartoonish.?? Get it?
 
Top Bottom