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Social Banjo-Kazooie Social Thread - Project Dream Come True!

okamifire

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I could tell you right now if I was doing the DLC it would look like this:

1. Banjo-Kazooie
2. Dixie Kong
3. Bandana Dee
4. Ganon
5. Dr. Eggman

Really though as long as Banjo gets in I'm fine with whatever. Hard to complain too much about DLC when the base game is a steal for 60 dollars.
Yeah, it's going to be a great game, but any character I like as DLC would make it even better. Banjo being the best. Like if Banjo makes it as DLC and the other 4 characters are literally flying turds that are Kirby echos, I'd be elated.

I'm sure whatever characters make it as DLC will be fun, Sakurai knows what he's doing.
 
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Yeah, it's going to be a great game, but any character I like as DLC would make it even better. Banjo being the best. Like if Banjo makes it as DLC and the other 4 characters are literally flying turds that are Kirby echos, I'd be elated.

I'm sure whatever characters make it as DLC will be fun, Sakurai knows what he's doing.
And Nintendo is listening to us
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They must have slipped in a long time request In the fighters pass
 

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Yeah, it's going to be a great game, but any character I like as DLC would make it even better. Banjo being the best. Like if Banjo makes it as DLC and the other 4 characters are literally flying turds that are Kirby echos, I'd be elated.

I'm sure whatever characters make it as DLC will be fun, Sakurai knows what he's doing.
Banjo's basically the only character left that would give me S tier hype. The rest on my list would be cool but Banjo would be second to K. Rool for me.
 

thirsty-pocket

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I will cry if they have a Grunty Quiz segment in this game. Gruntilda is literally my favorite video game villain of all time and her weird obsession with quizzes is one of my favorite things about her. It wasn't enough that she speaks in rhymes, but she's also a nut job who makes the heroes take jeopardy quizzes. If they translated that into Smash I would be at risk of dying happily.

Heck, I've been working on making my own Grunty quizzes on my Nintendo blog.

 
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Woah! I just had a perfect thought

What if the dq rep has the Enders dragon as it’s classic mode boss?


Who agrees with me?
 

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I still think all the DLC will be third party. At least for the first wave anyway.

Banjo-Kazooie, Erdrick (DQ1/DQ8/DQ11 heroes as alts), Dante, Doom Slayer, Ryu Hayabusa

I theorize that they might be ignoring customizable third party characters. So no Chosen Undead, Monster Hunter or Steve. I really wanted Chosen Undead though so I'm kind of sad if that's the case.
 
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I still think all the DLC will be third party. At least for the first wave anyway.

Banjo-Kazooie, Erdrick (DQ1/DQ8/DQ11 heroes as alts), Dante, Doom Slayer, Ryu Hayabusa

I theorize that they might be ignoring customizable third party characters. So no Chosen Undead, Monster Hunter or Steve. I really wanted Chosen Undead though so I'm kind of sad if that's the case
To me it would be 2 3rd party’s and 3 1st party’s
 

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To me it would be 2 3rd party’s and 3 1st party’s
I feel like if there are first parties, they will be advertisements of Switch games. So Byleth or Edelgard, a Gen 8 Pokemon and Sylux would all be possible options. It sucks that Rex is likely going to get skipped over.
 
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EpicElliot

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The plot thickens could banjo be cut content ? I doubt it tho I feel like a big character like banjo would of been a priority if he was guna get it. then again after the gritch leak I find it hard to beleave anything :p
 

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I could tell you right now if I was doing the DLC it would look like this:

1. Banjo-Kazooie
2. Dixie Kong
3. Bandana Dee
4. Ganon
5. Dr. Eggman

Really though as long as Banjo gets in I'm fine with whatever. Hard to complain too much about DLC when the base game is a steal for 60 dollars.
This lineup would be legit, something I could get behind. Banjo & Kazooie plus Dixie are the only ones I'm hoping for DLC. This is probably the best I've felt about their chances in quite sometime. I'm getting excited.
 
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I feel like if there are first parties, they will be advertisements of Switch games. So Byleth or Edelgard, a Gen 8 Pokemon and Sylux would all be possible options. It sucks that Rex is likely going to get skipped over.
Porky would celebrate earthbounds 30th anniversary and Adeline would promote the rumored Kirby game in 2019
 

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Porky would celebrate earthbounds 30th anniversary and Adeline would promote the rumored Kirby game in 2019
I don't know why they would add either of those characters. Unless they plan on bringing Mother 3 to the west, it's hard to imagine Porky getting in.

And Adeline would have to have a main role in that new Kirby game if she were to get in.

lol rip Bandana Dee.

I hope we get a second wave of DLC. Or maybe if we're lucky, they do in fact plan on filling those thirty DLC slots. That would be incredible.
 

thirsty-pocket

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I hope at least two or three of the DLC characters is 1st party.
As much as I want Banjo and Geno we're starting to get low on good 3rd party characters that are synonymous with Nintendo in some way like Simon and Megaman. There's also plenty of 3rd party characters that should have been in Smash one or two games ago like Dixie Kong and Toad... not to mention certain assist trophies that should be promoted. .. though it could be those characters are being held back so they'll have something left for the future.
 

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In regards to third parties, at the very least, I think we'll get Banjo-Kazooie and Erdrick.

Ryu Hayabusa could be coming too though. Since Koei Tecmo stuff in the game. Namely the Fatal Frame Assist Trophy.

Doom Slayer as well since Bethesda was in talks with Nintendo in regards to Smash.

Dante might be in based on some old Kamiya tweets from 2015, but that was a long time ago, I don't know if DLC was really decided that long ago.
 
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In regards to the quiz well...


I know we're all thinking Grunty, but it's not her. The quiz files are named under a very specific boss, which I'll hide under another spoiler in case anyone doesn't want to hear it

It's Marx. The quizzes belong to Marx
 

thirsty-pocket

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Well that's a bummer.

Still, if Banjo makes it into the game, my fingers are crossed that Grunty comes with him in some form. New classic mode boss, stage boss, stage hazard, of course the best case scenario is Snake Codec style rhymes.
 
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I figured out something

This would go for the same with Tetris

“Just because you’re iconic worldwide doesn’t mean you have to be a fighter”
 

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I still think that Banjo may have been planned for the base roster but was moved to DLC. Theres a few scenarios i came up with....

1) The deal with MS was late so he could have forced to them push back the release date, this is Nintendo's BIG game this holiday so that's a no no. They may have moved him to DLC to get everything out on time. Perhaps the Rare spirits were cut to avoid spoiling a Banjo reveal. We're not dumb and Sakurai and his team knew it would be obvious if Rare IPs appeared as Spirits but no Banjo that we could easily figure it out..

2) He was always planned to be DLC from the start to maximise profit for MS. This could be why "Minecraft Content" was rumoured for so long if this Minecraft boss doesn't exist it's possible that Minecraft was used as a code word to hide the identity of the character from potential leakers. They're both MS IPs so this isn't a stretch. It would even fit with Pappagenos' source's source who claimed they heard nothing in regards to Minecraft. Nintendo/Namco would use the code word amongst their own people so a MS source wouldn't know about that and only hear Banjo was getting in.. Rare spirits could have been planned but were cut, again as to not spoil a reveal..

3) Banjo was always planned as DLC and Rare was going to get spirit's in the game but perhaps they decided to only give them permission to use Banjo and that's it so any work they were doing on Spirits was nixed because legally they couldn't use those other characters.

4) Banjo's rights were given to Nintendo around E3 like Pappagenos theorized, Sakurai attempted to move a character to DLC in an attempt to make room for Banjo, Piranha Plant may have originally been planned for the base roster (this would explain the supposed cut 1st party character slot in the code, this would also explain why PP is practically complete despite being DLC) but they just couldn't get Banjo finished in time, so they end the roster with Ken and Incinoroar move PP to be a "free DLC" character and use PP as a safety blanket to continue work on Banjo. We're not expecting PP till February so that would give the Dev team extra time to work on Banjo we could see him release not too long after PP in that case.


In any case I theorize those Rare spirits were removed as to keep Banjo a secret. His inclusion would be huge, Sakurai, Microsoft, and Nintendo all know this.. we didn't see Cloud coming and I think they want this to be the same thing. A Banjo announcement for Smash would be like K. Rool 2.0 especially because of the background behind it all, the legacy, the current state of the characters franchise and of course a first party that belongs to rival console company joining Smash Bros. It has HUGE news potential. Nintendo and Microsoft would benefit off the press alone never mind the actual sales of the DLC which would only be helped by the hype and press..

I think there's more to all this than meets the eye, and like I said before. If Banjo wasn't meant to be playable than why not just give him a spirit? Surely Phil Spencer and Rare would have given Sakurai that atleast had they asked. Why wouldn't they have? Considering the presence of characters in the game that i can guarantee had a much smaller Ballot presence than Banjo. Rayman, Shovel Knight, Shantae, Dixie, krystal, Isaac, Geno all are present in one way or another and all of them were popular on fan polls the same fan polls were K. Rool, Snake, and Wolf dominated. The same fan polls people said were "bad sources to gauge ballot results" then we got K. Rool, Snake, and Wolf... and it would seem K. Rools number's were pretty accurate considering the royal treatment he's getting. Banjo was right up there with those guys and yet he's completely absent from the game in any way shape or form. No way.


Now we have Rare IPs showing up in the code. It's becoming painfully obvious that Banjo is on his way. Could I be wrong? Absolutely. My confidence in Banjo is where it was for K. Rool.. I am cautiously optimistic but when it came to K. Rool I couldn't see him getting ignored and I feel the same way for Banjo. I think he's coming. If I'm wrong then hey that's life. I have a good feeling about this..
 

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After recent events

DLC is starting to look good for us boys
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While I realize that Sylux, Porky, and Adeleine weren't found as Spirits, do we honestly think that they would sell as DLC? I'm just not really feeling Porky and Sylux tbh. Even with Metroid Prime 4 coming out. I bear no ill will towards those characters and would actually like Adeleine, but I dunno...
For the last time, spirits do not deconfirm! They are just trophy replacements.

Thinking otherwise, even Bubbles would be viable as DLC.

I figured out something

This would go for the same with Tetris

“Just because you’re iconic worldwide doesn’t mean you have to be a fighter”
Sure, but the Tetris Company is even harder to negotiate with than SE, seeing as we can only get the music. So there's an actual tangible reason for that case.

I will cry if they have a Grunty Quiz segment in this game. Gruntilda is literally my favorite video game villain of all time and her weird obsession with quizzes is one of my favorite things about her. It wasn't enough that she speaks in rhymes, but she's also a nut job who makes the heroes take jeopardy quizzes. If they translated that into Smash I would be at risk of dying happily.

Heck, I've been working on making my own Grunty quizzes on my Nintendo blog.

I'd legit love to see that as an AT or boss kind of thing.

I still think that Banjo may have been planned for the base roster but was moved to DLC. Theres a few scenarios i came up with....

1) The deal with MS was late so he could have forced to them push back the release date, this is Nintendo's BIG game this holiday so that's a no no. They may have moved him to DLC to get everything out on time. Perhaps the Rare spirits were cut to avoid spoiling a Banjo reveal. We're not dumb and Sakurai and his team knew it would be obvious if Rare IPs appeared as Spirits but no Banjo that we could easily figure it out..

2) He was always planned to be DLC from the start to maximise profit for MS. This could be why "Minecraft Content" was rumoured for so long if this Minecraft boss doesn't exist it's possible that Minecraft was used as a code word to hide the identity of the character from potential leakers. They're both MS IPs so this isn't a stretch. It would even fit with Pappagenos' source's source who claimed they heard nothing in regards to Minecraft. Nintendo/Namco would use the code word amongst their own people so a MS source wouldn't know about that and only hear Banjo was getting in.. Rare spirits could have been planned but were cut, again as to not spoil a reveal..

3) Banjo was always planned as DLC and Rare was going to get spirit's in the game but perhaps they decided to only give them permission to use Banjo and that's it so any work they were doing on Spirits was nixed because legally they couldn't use those other characters.

4) Banjo's rights were given to Nintendo around E3 like Pappagenos theorized, Sakurai attempted to move a character to DLC in an attempt to make room for Banjo, Piranha Plant may have originally been planned for the base roster (this would explain the supposed cut 1st party character slot in the code, this would also explain why PP is practically complete despite being DLC) but they just couldn't get Banjo finished in time, so they end the roster with Ken and Incinoroar move PP to be a "free DLC" character and use PP as a safety blanket to continue work on Banjo. We're not expecting PP till February so that would give the Dev team extra time to work on Banjo we could see him release not too long after PP in that case.


In any case I theorize those Rare spirits were removed as to keep Banjo a secret. His inclusion would be huge, Sakurai, Microsoft, and Nintendo all know this.. we didn't see Cloud coming and I think they want this to be the same thing. A Banjo announcement for Smash would be like K. Rool 2.0 especially because of the background behind it all, the legacy, the current state of the characters franchise and of course a first party that belongs to rival console company joining Smash Bros. It has HUGE news potential. Nintendo and Microsoft would benefit off the press alone never mind the actual sales of the DLC which would only be helped by the hype and press..

I think there's more to all this than meets the eye, and like I said before. If Banjo wasn't meant to be playable than why not just give him a spirit? Surely Phil Spencer and Rare would have given Sakurai that atleast had they asked. Why wouldn't they have? Considering the presence of characters in the game that i can guarantee had a much smaller Ballot presence than Banjo. Rayman, Shovel Knight, Shantae, Dixie, krystal, Isaac, Geno all are present in one way or another and all of them were popular on fan polls the same fan polls were K. Rool, Snake, and Wolf dominated. The same fan polls people said were "bad sources to gauge ballot results" then we got K. Rool, Snake, and Wolf... and it would seem K. Rools number's were pretty accurate considering the royal treatment he's getting. Banjo was right up there with those guys and yet he's completely absent from the game in any way shape or form. No way.


Now we have Rare IPs showing up in the code. It's becoming painfully obvious that Banjo is on his way. Could I be wrong? Absolutely. My confidence in Banjo is where it was for K. Rool.. I am cautiously optimistic but when it came to K. Rool I couldn't see him getting ignored and I feel the same way for Banjo. I think he's coming. If I'm wrong then hey that's life. I have a good feeling about this..
If you manage to be correct about any of this, you'll win the Arcadenik Arcadenik award. The funniest part being the potential second time that Verge dismisses a possible Rare-related character.
 
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UnknownJ25

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I still think that Banjo may have been planned for the base roster but was moved to DLC. Theres a few scenarios i came up with....

1) The deal with MS was late so he could have forced to them push back the release date, this is Nintendo's BIG game this holiday so that's a no no. They may have moved him to DLC to get everything out on time. Perhaps the Rare spirits were cut to avoid spoiling a Banjo reveal. We're not dumb and Sakurai and his team knew it would be obvious if Rare IPs appeared as Spirits but no Banjo that we could easily figure it out..

2) He was always planned to be DLC from the start to maximise profit for MS. This could be why "Minecraft Content" was rumoured for so long if this Minecraft boss doesn't exist it's possible that Minecraft was used as a code word to hide the identity of the character from potential leakers. They're both MS IPs so this isn't a stretch. It would even fit with Pappagenos' source's source who claimed they heard nothing in regards to Minecraft. Nintendo/Namco would use the code word amongst their own people so a MS source wouldn't know about that and only hear Banjo was getting in.. Rare spirits could have been planned but were cut, again as to not spoil a reveal..

3) Banjo was always planned as DLC and Rare was going to get spirit's in the game but perhaps they decided to only give them permission to use Banjo and that's it so any work they were doing on Spirits was nixed because legally they couldn't use those other characters.

4) Banjo's rights were given to Nintendo around E3 like Pappagenos theorized, Sakurai attempted to move a character to DLC in an attempt to make room for Banjo, Piranha Plant may have originally been planned for the base roster (this would explain the supposed cut 1st party character slot in the code, this would also explain why PP is practically complete despite being DLC) but they just couldn't get Banjo finished in time, so they end the roster with Ken and Incinoroar move PP to be a "free DLC" character and use PP as a safety blanket to continue work on Banjo. We're not expecting PP till February so that would give the Dev team extra time to work on Banjo we could see him release not too long after PP in that case.


In any case I theorize those Rare spirits were removed as to keep Banjo a secret. His inclusion would be huge, Sakurai, Microsoft, and Nintendo all know this.. we didn't see Cloud coming and I think they want this to be the same thing. A Banjo announcement for Smash would be like K. Rool 2.0 especially because of the background behind it all, the legacy, the current state of the characters franchise and of course a first party that belongs to rival console company joining Smash Bros. It has HUGE news potential. Nintendo and Microsoft would benefit off the press alone never mind the actual sales of the DLC which would only be helped by the hype and press..

I think there's more to all this than meets the eye, and like I said before. If Banjo wasn't meant to be playable than why not just give him a spirit? Surely Phil Spencer and Rare would have given Sakurai that atleast had they asked. Why wouldn't they have? Considering the presence of characters in the game that i can guarantee had a much smaller Ballot presence than Banjo. Rayman, Shovel Knight, Shantae, Dixie, krystal, Isaac, Geno all are present in one way or another and all of them were popular on fan polls the same fan polls were K. Rool, Snake, and Wolf dominated. The same fan polls people said were "bad sources to gauge ballot results" then we got K. Rool, Snake, and Wolf... and it would seem K. Rools number's were pretty accurate considering the royal treatment he's getting. Banjo was right up there with those guys and yet he's completely absent from the game in any way shape or form. No way.


Now we have Rare IPs showing up in the code. It's becoming painfully obvious that Banjo is on his way. Could I be wrong? Absolutely. My confidence in Banjo is where it was for K. Rool.. I am cautiously optimistic but when it came to K. Rool I couldn't see him getting ignored and I feel the same way for Banjo. I think he's coming. If I'm wrong then hey that's life. I have a good feeling about this..

That all sounds really plausible, I'm leaning towards the fourth option since to me it makes the most sense
 

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Once again, for the umpteenth time, if Banjo & Kazooie make it into this game as DLC, I will literally have no complaints about Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. It will officially have earned the title of Ultimate if they bring the backpacking bear & bird home where they belong. They are literally the only characters I've ever truly wanted to see in Super Smash Bros.
 
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Even if they do bring back Banjo for me there will still be a few glaring omissions from the roster but I'll be too busy crying tears of joy over Banjo coming home to be mad about it.
 

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Even if they do bring back Banjo for me there will still be a few glaring omissions from the roster but I'll be too busy crying tears of joy over Banjo coming home to be mad about it.
Who'd you like to see OXIII to have a complete roster in your eyes? I'm sure they'd be welcome additions alongside Banjo & Kazooie ^^
 

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After K. Rool, Ridley, Simon, and Inkling, we got the last of the essentials, and I don't see any omissions as glaring. As much as I want Banjo-Kazooie and how perfect they would be for the game, they're still third party characters that aren't as iconic as the ones already included on the roster... But sure, they do mean something more to Nintendo's history, and after their inclusion the roster will definitely have a feeling of completion for that reason.

I suppose there's always Dixie Kong, but honestly, they're going the extra mile with K. Rool, which makes the DK series feel more important than its ever felt before in Smash, and that makes it real hard to complain.
 

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Who'd you like to see OXIII to have a complete roster in your eyes? I'm sure they'd be welcome additions alongside Banjo & Kazooie ^^
Isaac, Bandana Dee, Paper Mario, Geno, and Dixie would make Smash complete. I feel that those are the last important or highly demanded characters. Though I'd also like to see Sora, Rex, Vaati, and Takamaru though I don't really think of them as essential.
 
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After K. Rool, Ridley, Simon, and Inkling, we got the last of the essentials, and I don't see any omissions as glaring. As much as I want Banjo-Kazooie and how perfect they would be for the game, they're still third party characters that aren't as iconic as the ones already included on the roster... But sure, they do mean something more to Nintendo's history, and after their inclusion the roster will definitely have a feeling of completion for that reason.

I suppose there's always Dixie Kong, but honestly, they're going the extra mile with K. Rool, which makes the DK series feel more important than its ever felt before in Smash, and that makes it real hard to complain.
Banjo was owned by Nintendo and pushed as one of their top IPs during the N64 (and early GC) era. They're literally the only 3rd Party characters who can be deemed Nintendo All-Stars.

They are missing from Smash. And Simon never was an essential.
 

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Isaac, Bandana Dee, Paper Mario, Geno, and Dixie would make Smash complete. I feel that would truly make Smash whole. Though I'd also like to see Sora, Rex, Vaati, and Takamaru though I don't really think of them as essential.
Those characters along with Banjo & Kazooie, Pig Ganon, Toad, Waluigi, Porky, and Krystal would truly complete the Smash roster. No offense to anybody, but anybody else after those 11 characters would be filler in terms of importance.
 

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Those characters along with Banjo & Kazooie, Pig Ganon, Toad, Waluigi, Porky, and Krystal would truly complete the Smash roster. No offense to anybody, but anybody else after those 11 characters would be filler in terms of importance.
Sounds completely objective and unbiased to me. /s
 
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The arguments are all great, but after the Grinch Leak and other speculation fiascos I won't dare to assume anything about this game ever again. What I wonder about though it if there are any other games that are referenced in the text files, but aren't represented in the game. It would be reaaaally suspicious if only Jet Force Gemini and Blast Corps are mentioned. Too much of a coincidence. But as we all learned throughout the year, anything that seems like an obvious sign could just as well be false. Like how Skull Kid was in because of the chairs (seriously, who was the architect there?), or how Isaac was in because of the earthquake delay and the Twitter "hints". Try not to think too much about these Blast Corps and JFG references, because those too might just be nothing. Like how there are 30 or so character slots, which doesn't instantly mean they'll all be used.

That said, like TheZoologist I too would be completely content with this game if BK make it in. But I won't get my hope up even after this obvious (OR IS IT?) sign that points towards Rareware doing stuff for Ultimate.

Also, DLC announcements when?
 
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Being completely subjective and opinionated here, I do think that Dixie Kong and Paper Mario are two of the more glaring omissions based on the games and popularity that each were part of. I think Isaac and Banjo-Kazooie were important during their prime time on the console they represented, but were pretty situational to the set of years their game was in. Geno I feel became more popular with time, but his borderline third party status (along with Banjo) makes sense why he hasn't made it in yet. I don't really know much about Bandana Waddle Dee to have an opinion there, but until I saw people rally for him, I thought he was just an unimportant minion. I haven't played recent Kirby games in the last decade though, so I'm probably wrong on that one.

If we're talking about other important historic true blood third party characters that haven't been exclusive to competitor's platforms and have shown up on Nintendo consoles, names like Crash, Spyro, and Rayman come to mind. I'm torn on Minecraft because it's a newer series, but it's undoubtedly made itself a name in modern gaming. There are a bunch of other popular video game characters, but to me the aesthetics and scenario just seem "wrong" for Smash, like Master Chief, any Bethesda character, or any fighting game character from a franchise rated M. That all said, Snake and Bayonetta fall into those categories, yet here we are.

Oh, and if it wasn't clear, this is all 100% opinion that I expect people to disagree with, and I would totally understand anyone's objection to anything above.
 

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If you want to get into 1st Party Nintendo characters who are objectively missing and are big stars:

Toad
Dixie
Eevee
Meowth
Paper Mario
Slippy
Peppy

That's just about it IMO, but you could make a case for the likes of King Boo and a few others maybe.
 

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If you want to get into 1st Party Nintendo characters who are objectively missing and are big stars:

Toad
Dixie
Eevee
Meowth
Paper Mario
Slippy
Peppy

That's just about it IMO, but you could make a case for the likes of King Boo and a few others maybe.
Peppy and Slippy are big for Star Fox but not sure if I'd call them Nintendo stars. That franchise is not as big as it used to be.
 
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