Social Banjo-Kazooie Social Thread - Project Dream Come True!

[Rigumaro]

I just want to leave here another fan remix with Smash Ultimate in the title and also the logo on it, that hasn't been taken down. If this one gets taken down too, it might mean something. If they don't, it could just mean they took down the whole account of the other one due to them uploading actual leaked tracks.

 

[Cap'n Jack]

Yeah, the real question is if the Isaac and Geno ones were flagged?

 

[MonkeyDLenny]

So there's a theory I showed to Papagenos that I want to share here, that may actually put the nail in Minecraft

A Cubivore spirit was found in the game, specifically of the pig. Now, the pig is very visually similar to the Minecraft pig. A theory floating around is that Verg's source perhaps saw the pig at a fast glance and just assumed it was Minecraft.

Spoiler

Cubivore is a very obscure Gamecube game, one of the rarest actually, no one would recognize it at a fast glance. If you showed an average person, they'd probably say it was Minecraft. Imagine maybe getting a look at the spirits early in development and suddenly seeing a blocky pig in there, wouldn't you jump to "Oh! It's Minecraft!"

In fact a similar argument could be made on the insistence of a Square Enix rep: We now know Cloud was the last fighter to be brought back due to Square being difficult to work with; could it be possible Verg's source saw very late-game meetings with Square going on and assumed "Square DLC"?

And to answer the "But Verg now says Minecraft is a boss!" argument: The leaks prove that there IS no Minecraft boss in the game, and he's yet to answer for this discrepancy. Adding a boss into the game with DLC seems unlikely since Reggie recently doubled down on the "Fighter, Stage, Music" format of DLC distribution. And if it WAS going to be DLC, that implies that Nintendo picked their DLC THAT far ahead of time... just to sit on it and do nothing until the game launches. Sakurai seemed to frame it as if the DLC was decided just then.

There's also precedence for a mistake like this happening: Remember when everyone was SO sure that Shovel Knight was a lock for Smash 4? It was because some insiders saw the Shovel Knight amiibo and just assumed it meant he was in Smash, not helped by there being a very limited variant of it with a gold-colored base, just like the Smash amiibo


This could all actually be a case of mistaken identity. It may not confirm Banjo, but it might put the competition down

 

[Ura]

Wow I can't believe I didn't ask to be put on the Support List yet. I mean I could have sworn I did in the Smash 4 DLC thread but I guess now's a good time than ever. Please add me to the list.

As for Banjo's chances, I can't say for sure. Insiders kind of make me think his chances aren't that great but then again there was Rare Spirits added to this game and I don't think it's a coincidence that they would add those for no reason. Nevertheless, i'm hopeful for Bear & Bird's inclusion as DLC.

 

[Khandoit]

I think it was a channel that, in anticipation of the September direct, uploaded fan remixes for Isaac, Geno, and Banjo.
They each had the Ultimate logo.

I remember seeing it, had the fan smash render of banjo and a 15 minute remix of a fan composition of the Final battle theme.

could have sworn it was on Crunchii's channel, who has said they are getting taken down in a week or so due to multiple violations filed by NoA. Its weird that the banjo one was taken down already though since they have tons of OTHER smash videos uploaded and working of Leaked music.

Edit: different channel actually.

 

[Juliusaurus]

No way anybody confused Cubivore for Minecraft. Cubivore has been referenced in Smash ever since Melee, it's nothing too new or too obscure for most people within our circles.

And again, the presence of Minecraft actually helps Banjo-Kazooie, so no skin off my back if a Minecraft boss like Ender Dragon shows up at some point.

 

[Rigumaro]

I'm not sure if I'm remembering correctly, but didn't Verge at some point explain that the nature of his sources about Minecraft was that negotiations took place to add Minecraft content? He explained it as a reason of why he knows there's content, but not what type of content.

So, his source didn't "see" anything about Minecraft, but more like knows about those negotiations. Therefore it's not possible that it's just a Cubivore mistake.

 

[MonkeyDLenny]

I'm not sure if I'm remembering correctly, but didn't Verge at some point explain that the nature of his sources about Minecraft was that negotiations took place to add Minecraft content? He explained it as a reason of why he knows there's content, but not what type of content.

So, his source didn't "see" anything about Minecraft, but more like knows about those negotiations. Therefore it's not possible that it's just a Cubivore mistake.

When was that?

 

[Rigumaro]

When was that?

I don't remember, it was a while ago I think, I'm too lazy to go check the history of Verge's messages. I don't even remember if it was gamefaqs or reddit.

 

[Thunderfang747]

Honestly I think the "us vs them mentality" is a bit silly anyway. Steve may be a red herring, or he may be playable, but there is no rule that says there can't be two Microsoft reps. Nintendo will simply do what they want to do. That could just as easily mean only one, both, or neither. Afterall, Capcom and Konami both have three as of now. Meanwhile Namco, the co developer, still only has Pac-Man. If Steve does make it, it just means only one slot isn't Banjo. That's fine though, if Banjo does make it, there will be four that aren't him anyway.

 

["LC"_Lapen]

Just weighing in that I'm still hopeful that our Bear and Bird are on their way, especially with some of the bigger speculation road blocks falling away. Even received a token of good luck in the mail today, so stay strong everyone!

 

[TheAnvil]

Just weighing in that I'm still hopeful that our Bear and Bird are on their way, especially with some of the bigger speculation road blocks falling away. Even received a token of good luck in the mail today, so stay strong everyone!

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Where'd you get that?!

 

["LC"_Lapen]

Where'd you get that?!

https://www.merchoid.com/product/banjo-kazooie-limited-edition-coin/

Currently sold out, sadly.

However, it speaks volumes towards Banjo Kazooie's popularity that an item like this with almost 10,000 units would sell out so quickly. One more piece of evidence that they're not irrelevant even now in 2018.

 

[vaanrose]

Rare always owned the trademark/copyright rights to Jet Force Gemini/Star Twins locally and abroad-

As for Blast Corps/Blast Dozer, it seems to be a bit muddied-

Trademark and Copyright are different things. A trademark is a protected brand, logo or wordmark. Nintendo never owned the Jet Force Gemini/Star Twins IP, that always belonged to Rare before Microsoft acquired it. It's specifically the Japanese title that they owned/possibly still own the trademark for.

You can look this up online.

I used this website, but keep in mind they only give you one search before they nag you to create an account.

I could not find one for Blast Dozer.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Thought this would draw some interest.

https://twitter.com/werewafflesyrup/status/1067086282373902336?s=21

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Thought this would draw some interest.

https://twitter.com/werewafflesyrup/status/1067086282373902336?s=21

Well, this is extremely telling. Why would they take down what's clearly a fan-made remix, when not even the Grinch incident had them act beyond ignoring it?

 

[dlewis53]

Well, this is extremely telling. Why would they take down what's clearly a fan-made remix, when not even the Grinch incident had them act beyond ignoring it?

Thing is, I was following the channel that posted that song, and they were uploading the leaked music tracks. So I'd imagine that song was just caught up in the storm, especially since the entire channel got terminated.

 

[weallfloatdownhere7]

Well, this is extremely telling. Why would they take down what's clearly a fan-made remix, when not even the Grinch incident had them act beyond ignoring it?

I was just dismissing this as Nintendo going on a damage control spree, but the grinch argument is actually a good point. They didn’t do anything about that because in the end it was fake. But here they are removing this. Very strange...

 

[Deleted member]

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Edit:nvm it’s fake the Minecraft content will be a boss like verge said

Sorry guys

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Thing is, I was following the channel that posted that song, and they were uploading the leaked music tracks. So I'd imagine that song was just caught up in the storm, especially since the entire channel got terminated.

That's one possibility, since Crunchii had the same thing happen to them, but it still seems odd.

 

[Llort A. Ton]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't NoA take down a Devil May Cry ost video a few months ago? I remember it was a couple weeks after the DMC5 leaker claimed Dante was in Smash. Otherwise, Nintendo has NEVER taken down a fake leak/rumor. Not Rayman, not Springman + Decidueye, not even Grinch. The ninjas only take down what they know is truly part of the game. It could be a mistake, but it would be one Hell of a mistake.

 

[TheCJBrine]

I just checked a video I liked on youtube that was taken down, and it said it was no longer available because the channel was terminated or because the user closed their account/removed the video. Another one I found actually mentioned the title while saying the channel was terminated because of "third-party claims" or something, so I imagine the Banjo-Kazooie video was taken down before the user because it doesn't mention the channel being terminated at all, just because of copyright claims by Nintendo of America, Inc. Note that the previous videos I mentioned were leaked Smash Bros. music, including Pokemon (one of the videos with a title actually given in the message was Pokemon).

Since the message doesn't mention the channel being terminated, then it's likely either a mistake during the deletion stuff or Nintendo actually mistook it for something they have in their plans before they just terminated the entire channel.

It could be the former, though, due to them probably being frantic about hiding their stuff, but it's still odd that they let their employees or bots or whatever claim B-K stuff as part of their own copyrights.

 

[Deleted member]

I just checked a video I liked on youtube that was taken down, and it said it was no longer available because the channel was terminated or because the user closed their account/removed the video. Another one I found actually mentioned the title while saying the channel was terminated because of "third-party claims" or something, so I imagine the Banjo-Kazooie video was taken down before the user because it doesn't mention the channel being terminated at all, just because of copyright claims by Nintendo of America, Inc. Note that the previous videos I mentioned were leaked Smash Bros. music, including Pokemon (one of the videos with a title actually given in the message was Pokemon).

Since the message doesn't mention the channel being terminated, then it's likely either a mistake during the deletion stuff or Nintendo actually mistook it for something they have in their plans before they just terminated the entire channel.

It could be the former, though, due to them probably being frantic about hiding their stuff, but it's still odd that they let their employees or bots or whatever claim B-K stuff as part of their own copyrights.

I’m leaning onto the 2nd case scenario where they mistook it as one of their plans

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Since someone brought up the possibility on the Geno thread, how would you guys feel about Dragon Kazooie being a costume swap? It'd work nicely as a compromise if they can't fit that form into the moveset.

 

[StormC]

Since someone brought up the possibility on the Geno thread, how would you guys feel about Dragon Kazooie being a costume swap? It'd work nicely as a compromise if they can't fit that form into the moveset.

It's a no brainer to me. I would never use any other alt.

 

[okamifire]

Honestly with the music thing I think the Ninten-bots just run on some sort of algorithm that finds channels with large amounts of things tagged with titles or images including Smash Ultimate and the fan BK song got caught in that. Don't get me wrong, I'd absolutely love to be wrong on this, but I hardly think there's some dude on a computer in a room listening to all of the videos labeled Smash Ultimate and removing only the legitimate ones or ones related to the game.

 

[Deleted member]

Honestly with the music thing I think the Ninten-bots just run on some sort of algorithm that finds channels with large amounts of things tagged with titles or images including Smash Ultimate and the fan BK song got caught in that. Don't get me wrong, I'd absolutely love to be wrong on this, but I hardly think there's some dude on a computer in a room listening to all of the videos labeled Smash Ultimate and removing only the legitimate ones or ones related to the game.

That could be the reason

But don’t worry

Minecraft is represented just as a boss

I can’t wait to see banjo fight that thing

 

[TheCJBrine]

Either way, I find it funny how Nintendo just let whatever or whoever they have taking down videos and channels claim Banjo-Kazooie as part of their own copyrights, as well as Beware the Forest's Mushrooms.

 

[okamifire]

I don't think it's the Banjo Kazooie part that's actually getting flagged but the images or text of Smash Ultimate along with it. Maybe they're just beignsuper aggressive.

The Minecraft boss thing still doesn't really make that much sense to me if I'm being honest, as in, I can't think of a scenario where he'd be added. People have the full game already and haven't found anything, and there isn't any indication we're getting any sort of DLC boss. Maybe through a free update or that rumored Day 1 Patch, if it includes content. But I dunno, I'm skeptical on that.

 

[TheCJBrine]

I do think it's more-likely a mistake because of bots now that I think about it and after having been to the Discussion thread; apparently a fanmade Golden Sun track was taken down as well.

Even so, it's funny how their bots just made them invade Rare's and SE's copyrights

 

[Deleted member]

I don't think it's the Banjo Kazooie part that's actually getting flagged but the images or text of Smash Ultimate along with it. Maybe they're just beignsuper aggressive.

The Minecraft boss thing still doesn't really make that much sense to me if I'm being honest, as in, I can't think of a scenario where he'd be added. People have the full game already and haven't found anything, and there isn't any indication we're getting any sort of DLC boss. Maybe through a free update or that rumored Day 1 Patch, if it includes content. But I dunno, I'm skeptical on that.

If it was for dlc then the boss would be in banjos classic mode while gruntilda will be the stage hazard

 

[okamifire]

I do think it's more-likely a mistake because of bots now that I think about it and after having been to the Discussion thread; apparently a fanmade Golden Sun track was taken down as well.

Even so, it's funny how their bots just made them invade Rare's and SE's copyrights

Golden Sun isn't a SE franchise, or did you mean something else? I feel like they could probably remove anything they want if it's flagged with Smash Ultimate, even if Sony or Microsoft themself uploaded a video that slimed to have the media. Especially now since any video on YouTube was not obtained legitimately. Maybe when the game comes out in a couple weeks they'll tune down the Ninten-bots Search and Destroy function. =P

If it was for dlc then the boss would be in banjos classic mode while gruntilda will be the stage hazard

If they add bosses in with Fighter Pass DLC for their Classic Modes, I could see that. I'm just not sure there's any precedence for that at the moment to have that something be something reasonable to expect. Seems to me they'd just make them all fight Master Hand or something. But that would sure be cool!

 

[weallfloatdownhere7]

If they add bosses in with Fighter Pass DLC for their Classic Modes, I could see that. I'm just not sure there's any precedence for that at the moment to have that something be something reasonable to expect. Seems to me they'd just make them all fight Master Hand or something. But that would sure be cool!

Well when you look at each individual fighter in the fighter pass on the eShop, it specifically says “one new fighter, one new stage, new music tracks.” So unless they do separate DLC, I don’t think we should expect anything more out of the fighter pass

 

[TheCJBrine]

Golden Sun isn't a SE franchise, or did you mean something else? I feel like they could probably remove anything they want if it's flagged with Smash Ultimate, even if Sony or Microsoft themself uploaded a video that slimed to have the media. Especially now since any video on YouTube was not obtained legitimately. Maybe when the game comes out in a couple weeks they'll tune down the Ninten-bots Search and Destroy function. =P

Oh, by SE I meant the fanmade Beware the Forest's Mushrooms video they claimed as copyright; it was on the same channel.

Thankfully, if their algorithm is searching "Super Smash Bros. Ultimate" they have not taken down any of my channel's videos, which is good because they're all fanmade by me (well, the more-recent ones, anyway, including the Smash ones), a couple not even being real music but instead jokes...

 

[Deleted member]

After recent events

DLC is starting to look good for us boys

 

[PK-remling Fire]

I would be 100% content with this DLC lineup just because of Porky and Banjo.

 

[Khandoit]

After recent events

DLC is starting to look good for us boys

what evidence is there for sylux?

 

[TheCJBrine]

Porky, B-K, and Geno would leave me satisfied.

...well, I'd still want Gengar, Steve, Skull Kid, etc. but those seem to be even more like pipe-dreams than these other characters (well, except Steve, but idk it's either him or B-K)...

Porky actually feels like a pipe-dream at this point imo, but not even the figure of EarthBound Porky as a Spirit does seem suspicious.

 

[okamifire]

After recent events

DLC is starting to look good for us boys
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While I realize that Sylux, Porky, and Adeleine weren't found as Spirits, do we honestly think that they would sell as DLC? I'm just not really feeling Porky and Sylux tbh. Even with Metroid Prime 4 coming out. I bear no ill will towards those characters and would actually like Adeleine, but I dunno...

 

[StormC]

I could tell you right now if I was doing the DLC it would look like this:

1. Banjo-Kazooie
2. Dixie Kong
3. Bandana Dee
4. Ganon
5. Dr. Eggman

Really though as long as Banjo gets in I'm fine with whatever. Hard to complain too much about DLC when the base game is a steal for 60 dollars.