Social Banjo-Kazooie Social Thread - Project Dream Come True!

[Cap'n Jack]

Peppy and Slippy are big for Star Fox but not sure if I'd call them Nintendo stars. That franchise is not as big as it used to be.

I agree. Waluigi being a staple of the Mario spinoffs would make him slightly bigger

 

[osby]

I agree. Waluigi being a staple of the Mario spinoffs would make him slightly bigger

Yeah, Even he is just a spin-off filler character. There's hardly much "must have" characters at this point.

 

[StormC]

K. Rool and Ridley were my last "please god just add them already" requests. Banjo is a character I would see as a bonus (to outright expect Banjo and be upset if the game doesn't have him when he's tied up in another console manufacturer is sorta foolhardy). I consider Dixie, Bandana Dee, Toad, and Ganon the biggest Nintendo omissions left, although I personally don't care for Toad. But with the big evil lizards in, I'm much less invested in speculation. Banjo getting his day would be amazing and mindblowing, but if it doesn't happen then either way I'm hanging up the hat on speculation after this game.

I don't think any of the characters I listed besides Banjo will be DLC, so once he's announced, I'll buy the Fighter Pass and probably check out mentally.

 

[weallfloatdownhere7]

itt: HeAvY sPeCuLaTiOn

The arguments are all great, but after the Grinch Leak and other speculation fiascos I won't dare to assume anything about this game ever again. What I wonder about though it if there are any other games that are referenced in the text files, but aren't represented in the game. It would be reaaaally suspicious if only Jet Force Gemini and Blast Corps are mentioned. Too much of a coincidence. But as we all learned throughout the year, anything that seems like an obvious sign could just as well be false. Like how Skull Kid was in because of the chairs (seriously, who was the architect there?), or how Isaac was in because of the earthquake delay and the Twitter "hints". Try not to think too much about these Blast Corps and JFG references, because those too might just be nothing. Like how there are 30 or so character slots, which doesn't instantly mean they'll all be used.

That said, like TheZoologist I too would be completely content with this game if BK make it in. But I won't get my hope up even after this obvious (OR IS IT?) sign that points towards Rareware doing stuff for Ultimate.

Also, DLC announcements when?

I think the main difference here is these Rare files were found in the actual game. Meaning that Nintendo and Rare had to have been in communication at some point during development. For what purpose and to what extent, we have no idea, but the bottom line is this is much more significant than a convincing image on the internet like the Grinch leak. The same thing happened during Smash 4, when people found files referring to Roy and Ryu in one of the patches, and we all know where that eventually led. It’s like Nintendo sometimes forgets to completely scrub the game of any data that can possibly spoil future surprises. But we’ll just have to see what happens

 

[TheAnvil]

Peppy and Slippy are big for Star Fox but not sure if I'd call them Nintendo stars. That franchise is not as big as it used to be.

Literally every gamer knows who they are.

 

[osby]

Literally every gamer knows who they are.

You know who else literally every gamer knows? That's right, Goomba for Smash, let's go!

really, every gamer?

 

[Deleted member]

Let’s see

Banjo pack-

Banjo+spiral mountain+banjo songs+mc boss for b-k’s classic mode+Few mc tracks+rare spirits+few mc spirits

Looks like I solved the puzzle here

 

[okamifire]

I'm almost certain that no one outside of people that have played Starfox would know who Peppy or Slippy are. I'm not sure they're any more or less popular than Falco, but the same deal with him. Fox might be a little more recognizable, but I dunno, I don't think Nintendo puts them around everywhere like Mario, Yoshi, Pikachu, etc.

Let’s see

Banjo pack-

Banjo+spiral mountain+banjo songs+mc boss for b-k’s classic mode+Few mc tracks+rare spirits+few mc spirits

Looks like I solved the puzzle here

I'm really curious to see if they would package anything Rare and Mojang (Minecraft) together, despite being both owned by Microsoft. It's definitely possible, but I dunno. I'd be totally down for your suggestion though. I wouldn't be upset if it was a Minecraft stage either, but BK music on a Minecraft stage might be weird?

 

[KingofUSA85]

I think the main difference here is these Rare files were found in the actual game. Meaning that Nintendo and Rare had to have been in communication at some point during development. For what purpose and to what extent, we have no idea, but the bottom line is this is much more significant than a convincing image on the internet like the Grinch leak. The same thing happened during Smash 4, when people found files referring to Roy and Ryu in one of the patches, and we all know where that eventually led. It’s like Nintendo sometimes forgets to completely scrub the game of any data that can possibly spoil future surprises. But we’ll just have to see what happens

Rhythm heaven files were found in Smash 4. And we all know where that eventually led.

 

[okamifire]

Rhythm heaven files were found in Smash 4. And we all know where that eventually led.

While clearly very similar situations, I feel like it's not as big a deal with Rhythm Heaven as it's a first party IP. For Rare things to be there, presumably some sort of communication and planning had to have happened first, which is at least a step in the right direction.

But you're definitely right, finding leftover files in and of itself doesn't prove anything.

 

[Gemini-Gene]

If you want to get into 1st Party Nintendo characters who are objectively missing and are big stars:

Toad
Dixie
Eevee
Meowth
Paper Mario
Slippy
Peppy

That's just about it IMO, but you could make a case for the likes of King Boo and a few others maybe.

I'm probably the only one on Smashboards that would be hyped to see Slippy and Peppy in Ultimate and handled similar to the Belmonts (echo fighters of each other). A Starlink stage would come along with them and some music from Starlink and other Starfox games.

I doubt this would happen, and if Nintendo still wants to market Starlink but I would be excited. I've wanted the main 4 SF team in Smash ever since the 64 days.

 

[okamifire]

I'm probably the only one on Smashboards that would be hyped to see Slippy and Peppy in Ultimate and handled to the Belmonts (echo fighters of each other). A Starlink stage would come along with them and some music from Starlink and other Starfox games.

I doubt this would happen, and if Nintendo still wants to market Starlink but I would be excited. I've wanted the main 4 SF team in Smash ever since the 64 days.

I think Peppy and Slippy would be neat. But then again, there isn't a single character I wouldn't be interested in playing were they added, so I'm not picky. ^_^;;

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Yeah, Even he is just a spin-off filler character. There's hardly much "must have" characters at this point.

Pretty much. Apart from CPT. Toad, Pauline and maybe Birdo, the big Mario name well is drying up, for one.

I'm probably the only one on Smashboards that would be hyped to see Slippy and Peppy in Ultimate and handled to the Belmonts (echo fighters of each other). A Starlink stage would come along with them and some music from Starlink and other Starfox games.

I doubt this would happen, and if Nintendo still wants to market Starlink but I would be excited. I've wanted the main 4 SF team in Smash ever since the 64 days.

Slippy needs to get in and do shenanigans with his uncle for a FS.

But then again, there isn't a single character I wouldn't be interested in playing were they added, so I'm not picky. ^_^;;

That's the spirit!

 

[TheCJBrine]

Rhythm Heaven didn't get a character, no, but that's first-party.

Rare/3rd-party titles having references in the game's code? If it doesn't amount to anything, that's more bizarre than any cut 1st-party character.

 

[SneakyLink]

Basically, I have two theories on if this amounts to nothing:

1. The entire thing was an elaborate hoax and the guy behind it played a game of 537D chess on us.

2. The data in the game was real and someone started to program spirits from these games in, but someone else did their homework and realized they can’t add these spirits and tried to scrap them quickly. This leading to mentions in the code.

If 2 ends up true, I propose we buy the Smash team this book:

 

[Luigifan18]

Here's an interesting thought I had recently. Obviously, Nintendo and Microsoft would need to strike a deal in order for Banjo (a Microsoft-owned character) to appear in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (a Nintendo-produced, published, and intellectual-property-owned game exclusively produced for the Nintendo Switch). It seems only fair to me that this deal involve a licensing rights arrangement to allow for an iconic Nintendo-owned character, preferably the main character of a famous and beloved Nintendo-owned IP, to appear in the roster of a triple-A Xbox One-exclusive title of a famous Microsoft IP in a substantial "special guest" role.

My query for the Banjo-roos is: which Nintendo character do you think would be most likely to be licensed out for a guest appearance in an Xbox One game in exchange for Banjo being licensed as a DLC character for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, and which Xbox One title (specifically or in general) would be graced with a guest appearance from that Nintendo character? Try to make the trade as fair as possible, taking into account how much of a big name the Nintendo character is relative to Banjo (remember, the Banjo franchise is, sadly, not one of Microsoft's primary IPs) and how much of a grand phenomenon the Xbox franchise and game is relative to Super Smash Bros. Ultimate.

The best I can come up with is Samus making a guest appearance in the next Halo game. Halo is one of Microsoft's all-time biggest franchises; if Smash is the defining franchise for platform fighters, then Halo is, if not the defining franchise for modern first-person shooters, a very strong contender for the title. As for Samus, well, Metroid is fairly big, but it's certainly not one of Nintendo's top IPs, so Nintendo leasing Samus in exchange for Microsoft leasing Banjo feels like a relatively even trade IMO. Furthermore, a crossover between Halo and Metroid wouldn't feel substantially strange with respect to either franchise, considering that they both fit into the sci-fi genre story-wise and have a lot of similar backstory and environmental elements. But, anyways, what sort of licensing exchange do you guys think makes the most sense?

 

[Deleted member]

Rhythm heaven files were found in Smash 4. And we all know where that eventually led.

The difference is that those were fighter files not trophy files and I believe those spirits are leading to something other than disappointment

 

[weallfloatdownhere7]

Rhythm heaven files were found in Smash 4. And we all know where that eventually led.

Yeahhh that’s not the same thing at all. There’s a big difference between finding files for one Nintendo’s own properties, and finding files for games made by a studio who is owned by Microsoft. Rhythm Heaven plans could’ve fell through and Nintendo really wouldn’t have lost anything either way. But Nintendo would have to be in conversations and negotiations with Rare/Microsoft to get any kind of Rare content in the game, and I doubt they’d want to go through all that trouble just to scrap it

 

[Cap'n Jack]

Connor, I miss your Patrick avatar

 

[Rigumaro]

I was thinking today... If Banjo & Kazooie are really being added... Wouldn't there be leaks about it? Like, it's not just something "easy" to keep secret like an internal workplace thing, like with first party characters; or at a lesser degree, work between japanese companies. If Nintendo/Smash devs had been talking with Rare/Microsoft, their meetings would raise eyebrows since people would have to fly in/out, there's more people involved (translators, etc)... The only rumor we have is Papageno's source, which we can't really trust since they have no track record whatsoever.

Like I can't comprehend how a "Square Enix rep" could be leaked before something way more outstanding like Banjo. It's like hiding a melon and a grapefruit under a carpet and people only seeing the grapefruit's bump.

 

[SneakyLink]

I was thinking today... If Banjo & Kazooie are really being added... Wouldn't there be leaks about it? Like, it's not just something "easy" to keep secret like an internal workplace thing, like with first party characters; or at a lesser degree, work between japanese companies. If Nintendo/Smash devs had been talking with Rare/Microsoft, their meetings would raise eyebrows since people would have to fly in/out, there's more people involved (translators, etc)... The only rumor we have is Papageno's source, which we can't really trust since they have no track record whatsoever.

Like I can't comprehend how a "Square Enix rep" could be leaked before something way more outstanding like Banjo. It's like hiding a melon and a grapefruit under a carpet and people only seeing the grapefruit's bump.

As someone else here mentioned, it could be possible Minecraft is being used as a code word to hide the surprise. Also, isn’t Rare usually considered super secretive or was that a long time ago?

 

[weallfloatdownhere7]

I was thinking today... If Banjo & Kazooie are really being added... Wouldn't there be leaks about it? Like, it's not just something "easy" to keep secret like an internal workplace thing, like with first party characters; or at a lesser degree, work between japanese companies. If Nintendo/Smash devs had been talking with Rare/Microsoft, their meetings would raise eyebrows since people would have to fly in/out, there's more people involved (translators, etc)... The only rumor we have is Papageno's source, which we can't really trust since they have no track record whatsoever.

Like I can't comprehend how a "Square Enix rep" could be leaked before something way more outstanding like Banjo. It's like hiding a melon and a grapefruit under a carpet and people only seeing the grapefruit's bump.

Nobody seemed to know about K Rool either. Some secrets seem better kept than others. And like you said, PapaGeno’s source (as well as some others I’ve seen around the internet) claim to know about Banjo. It’s just a matter of waiting to see if it’s true or not

 

[weallfloatdownhere7]

As someone else here mentioned, it could be possible Minecraft is being used as a code word to hide the surprise. Also, isn’t Rare usually considered super secretive or was that a long time ago?

Rare are usually pretty vocal towards fans, but they haven’t responded to anything about Banjo in Smash since probably June. Same goes for Phil Spencer, Gregg Mayles, or anyone else who would know anything and are normally fine with discussing it (Grant Kirkhope doesn’t count because he’s not part of Rare anymore, nor did he even know about K Rool). So that’s a bit suspicious

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Here's an interesting thought I had recently. Obviously, Nintendo and Microsoft would need to strike a deal in order for Banjo (a Microsoft-owned character) to appear in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (a Nintendo-produced, published, and intellectual-property-owned game exclusively produced for the Nintendo Switch). It seems only fair to me that this deal involve a licensing rights arrangement to allow for an iconic Nintendo-owned character, preferably the main character of a famous and beloved Nintendo-owned IP, to appear in the roster of a triple-A Xbox One-exclusive title of a famous Microsoft IP in a substantial "special guest" role.

My query for the Banjo-roos is: which Nintendo character do you think would be most likely to be licensed out for a guest appearance in an Xbox One game in exchange for Banjo being licensed as a DLC character for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, and which Xbox One title (specifically or in general) would be graced with a guest appearance from that Nintendo character? Try to make the trade as fair as possible, taking into account how much of a big name the Nintendo character is relative to Banjo (remember, the Banjo franchise is, sadly, not one of Microsoft's primary IPs) and how much of a grand phenomenon the Xbox franchise and game is relative to Super Smash Bros. Ultimate.

The best I can come up with is Samus making a guest appearance in the next Halo game. Halo is one of Microsoft's all-time biggest franchises; if Smash is the defining franchise for platform fighters, then Halo is, if not the defining franchise for modern first-person shooters, a very strong contender for the title. As for Samus, well, Metroid is fairly big, but it's certainly not one of Nintendo's top IPs, so Nintendo leasing Samus in exchange for Microsoft leasing Banjo feels like a relatively even trade IMO. Furthermore, a crossover between Halo and Metroid wouldn't feel substantially strange with respect to either franchise, considering that they both fit into the sci-fi genre story-wise and have a lot of similar backstory and environmental elements. But, anyways, what sort of licensing exchange do you guys think makes the most sense?

Donkey Kong in Sea of Thieves? Might as well have apes in the tropics, y'arr. Plus it could help in case Retro is not doing anything for DKC.

 

[okamifire]

I was thinking today... If Banjo & Kazooie are really being added... Wouldn't there be leaks about it? Like, it's not just something "easy" to keep secret like an internal workplace thing, like with first party characters; or at a lesser degree, work between japanese companies. If Nintendo/Smash devs had been talking with Rare/Microsoft, their meetings would raise eyebrows since people would have to fly in/out, there's more people involved (translators, etc)... The only rumor we have is Papageno's source, which we can't really trust since they have no track record whatsoever.

Like I can't comprehend how a "Square Enix rep" could be leaked before something way more outstanding like Banjo. It's like hiding a melon and a grapefruit under a carpet and people only seeing the grapefruit's bump.

I dunno, I assume that there will be 2 or 3 third party DLC, and as of now, there haven't been any definitive leaks. A third party leak from anyone should raise something somewhere. Even Minecraft Steve, who a few weeks ago was considered 100% appears to now be something else entirely (at least Vergeben). "Minecraft is in Smash but represented with a boss. I am curious if Minecraft representation about being a fighter or AT was an intentional misdirect now. But there you have it. "

I know there was one person that hinted on Cloud in Smash 4, but I don't remember if he was 100% accurate or not (Tasnut?). Ryu in Smash 4 was only to my knowledge found out when a data update was pushed prematurely and then datamined.

My point is I think it's within the realm of possibility for a major third party character like Banjo to be kept secret or not get leaked. It's also possible that they're working on characters in a certain order and if Banjo is one of the last ones, we might not know more until later in the development process.

*shrug*

 

[JonSmash]

I could see a halo metroid cross over if they did get the rights to anything & that would make the most sense for nintendo as metriod isn't that big of an IP & advertising it in/with halo would be a good move

i don't think mario on an xbox game would do much TBH since xbox players are a much diffrent audiance

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I could see a halo metroid cross over if they did get the rights to anything & that would make the most sense for nintendo as metriod isn't that big of an IP & advertising it in/with halo would be a good move

i don't think mario on an xbox game would do much TBH since xbox players are a much diffrent audiance

You're right, they don't care that much about kiddie games (except Minecraft, though its playerbase is mainly on PCs).

 

[Deleted member]

Would we be listening to this guy instead of verge?

I feel somewhat vindicated that Vergeben basically made up the Steve is a playable DLC character thing and now he is completely backtracking. FYI, on the left is what I said at the beginning of the month. Wish people listened. pic.twitter.com/eepxmfbWL9

— Stealth (@Stealth40k) November 24, 2018

 

[StormC]

I was thinking today... If Banjo & Kazooie are really being added... Wouldn't there be leaks about it? Like, it's not just something "easy" to keep secret like an internal workplace thing, like with first party characters; or at a lesser degree, work between japanese companies. If Nintendo/Smash devs had been talking with Rare/Microsoft, their meetings would raise eyebrows since people would have to fly in/out, there's more people involved (translators, etc)... The only rumor we have is Papageno's source, which we can't really trust since they have no track record whatsoever.

Like I can't comprehend how a "Square Enix rep" could be leaked before something way more outstanding like Banjo. It's like hiding a melon and a grapefruit under a carpet and people only seeing the grapefruit's bump.

None of the Smash 4 DLC had external leaks outside of the Ryu/Roy datamine. Including Cloud freaking Strife. I don't think there's any corollary between how "big" a character is and how likely they are to be leaked.

I know there was one person that hinted on Cloud in Smash 4, but I don't remember if he was 100% accurate or not (Tasnut?). Ryu in Smash 4 was only to my knowledge found out when a data update was pushed prematurely and then datamined.

Cloud was only leaked, as far as I know, a couple of hours before the Nintendo Direct, obviously by an employee who saw it, saying something on GameFAQs to the effect of "they should add Cloud to Smash." Ryu was datamined as well before the update, with text and a victory theme.

 

[TheCJBrine]

Would we be listening to this guy instead of verge?

I feel somewhat vindicated that Vergeben basically made up the Steve is a playable DLC character thing and now he is completely backtracking. FYI, on the left is what I said at the beginning of the month. Wish people listened. pic.twitter.com/eepxmfbWL9

— Stealth (@Stealth40k) November 24, 2018

Vergeben never said Steve would be playable, he just thought it made sense. Hitagi is the one who said Steve would be playable.

Stealth is spreading misinfo.

 

[Deleted member]

Hitagi is the one who said Steve would be playable.

not anymore he confirmed his dlc was fake and he’s done leaking

But he still said Steve was in. But after what verge said about the mc content........


He’s confirmed loz18 2.0

We’re geting our bear home

 

[TheCJBrine]

not anymore he confirmed his dlc was fake and he’s done leaking

But he still said Steve was in. But after what verge said about the mc content........


He’s confirmed loz18 2.0

We’re geting our bear home

Vergeben didn't deny Steve would be playable; the fighter and AT info being a misdirect was his source's speculation or something.

Either way, I'd want Banjo-Kazooie first anyway, though I'd prefer both if we could get both.

 

[Deleted member]

Vergeben didn't deny Steve would be playable; the fighter and AT info being a misdirect was his source's speculation or something.

Either way, I'd want Banjo-Kazooie first anyway, though I'd prefer both if we could get both.

I was talking about hitagi

 

[weallfloatdownhere7]

not anymore he confirmed his dlc was fake and he’s done leaking

But he still said Steve was in. But after what verge said about the mc content........


He’s confirmed loz18 2.0

We’re geting our bear home

He’s still sticking with his playable Steve claim though. But you can tell he’s not 100% on it, despite how much of a show he puts on. He’ll go from “yeah I’m positive Steve is in” to “well if I’m wrong about it I’ll own up to it” and things of that nature. Seems more like the dude just strongly believes it rather than actually knows it

 

[StormC]

Again, there's zero reason to trust Hitagi. Nothing they've said yet has come true in Smash.

 

[weallfloatdownhere7]

Vergeben never said Steve would be playable, he just thought it made sense. Hitagi is the one who said Steve would be playable.

Stealth is spreading misinfo.

On a side note about Stealth, in the past he doubted the idea of Banjo ever making it into Smash, pretty harshly. But after the November direct and the announcement of DLC, he suddenly seems to be on board with the idea of Banjo being one of the DLC. Just thought that was kind of reassuring, coming from someone like him

 

[okamifire]

I have a pretty uneventful desk job and check in on what people discuss in regards to leaking. Hitagi does definitely seem the most sure on Steve, to a point where I legitimately wouldn't be surprised if Steve was in despite Vergeben being unsure. I do, however, think that Smash leaking and DLC is nothing like other Fighting Game DLC which Hitagi is actually known for having a great leaking record, and it's very clear (he admits it himself) that he regrets going down the Smash leaking road.

So yeah, honestly I think what the leakers that have said publicly is a combination of rumors, old information, or educated speculation, so I wouldn't be surprised if none of it happened. I also, however, do acknowledge Hitagi has nailed at least a couple other game's DLC before, so if Steve does make it in, I don't think I'd call it a lucky guess.

At this point I really think we need to wait for more information to surface or more rumor talks to shed light on new info.

 

[weallfloatdownhere7]

I have a pretty uneventful desk job and check in on what people discuss in regards to leaking. Hitagi does definitely seem the most sure on Steve, to a point where I legitimately wouldn't be surprised if Steve was in despite Vergeben being unsure. I do, however, think that Smash leaking and DLC is nothing like other Fighting Game DLC which Hitagi is actually known for having a great leaking record, and it's very clear (he admits it himself) that he regrets going down the Smash leaking road.

So yeah, honestly I think what the leakers that have said publicly is a combination of rumors, old information, or educated speculation, so I wouldn't be surprised if none of it happened. I also, however, do acknowledge Hitagi has nailed at least a couple other game's DLC before, so if Steve does make it in, I don't think I'd call it a lucky guess.

At this point I really think we need to wait for more information to surface or more rumor talks to shed light on new info.

To me it seems more like educated speculation from Hitagi. He’s said things that seem to suggest he doesn’t have any actual proof, he hasn’t actually seen anything with his own eyes, he just strongly believes it based on whatever he’s heard. I find it even stranger how he seems to suggest he “knows” that Banjo isn’t happening. Once again, he doesn’t seem to have any actual evidence but is just assuming again. He seems to think we could only get one or the other, and since he believes it’s Steve, that means Banjo is out

 

[Khandoit]

Minecraft Boss for a Banjo Classic mode would make a lot of sense.

First stage: Banjo vs Mario. Him vs the Platforming character that inspired him

Second stage: Donkey Kong/Diddy Kong/K Rool. His Rareware brothers from the days of old

Third stage: Banjo vs Bayonetta. Representing his battles against his own Witch Arch nemesis gruntilda.

Fourth Stage: Duck Hunt dog because of how they're both combos of Mammal and Bird duos (I honestly think sakurai made them as a banjo substitute then realized half way through how they could be more unique than an imaginary stand in for a then impossible character.)

Fifth stage: Snake/Sonic representing the 3rd party Characters that made it to smash before them.

Sixth Stage: Piranha plant/Incineroar representing the disappointment fans felt when they weren't announced as Base characters/DLC in November.

Final stage: Minecraft boss. Obviously this represents microsoft/minecraft and the rights of the characters being in the hands of a giant corporate monster with a bigger/newer IP, thus preventing them from getting in smash sooner.


And their campaign would be called something like "Homecoming" or "The Long Journey Home"

Obviously the stages could be in different orders or different all together but I could see Sakurai doing this as a meta reference to fan demand for them.

EDIT: This way, we get minecraft with an ender dragon boss and the character that has been requested so hard for so long, probably satisfying Microsofts PR firm pretty well.

EDIT2: The more I think about it, The Ender Dragon may be more well known than Steve. I don't think steve had a publicly state name in minecraft for several years then notch was like "lol, his name is steve"

The Ender Dragon though was a big deal. Hes the same for everyone, and he represents a goal and an end to what was a originally a game with no overt goal or story, its also super difficult to do the ingame stuff necessary to even access the end unless you are in creative mode. I remember it made 'The End' seem like a super big deal back when it was released. I think when I had minecraft (like 2012 or 2013?) I cheated to get to it because the damn portal spawned but it didnt have all the blocks because it spawn intersecting with a cave system so fuuu. I remember beating it and seeing the credits roll and being satisfied.

 

[Deleted member]

To me it seems more like educated speculation from Hitagi. He’s said things that seem to suggest he doesn’t have any actual proof, he hasn’t actually seen anything with his own eyes, he just strongly believes it based on whatever he’s heard. I find it even stranger how he seems to suggest he “knows” that Banjo isn’t happening. Once again, he doesn’t seem to have any actual evidence but is just assuming again. He seems to think we could only get one or the other, and since he believes it’s Steve, that means Banjo is out

Let’s all just ignore him

he said he think Steve’s still in not he is in and he dose not have proof

And it’s nothing like verge heard about

We’re geting our bear back no matter what

EDIT2: The more I think about it, The Ender Dragon may be more well known than Steve. I don't think steve had a publicly state name in minecraft for several years then notch was like "lol, his name is steve"

Yes

Minecraft would be in the rathalos situation because he’s more iconic than the hunter

And like I said

“Just because you’re a popular game worldwide doesn’t mean you have to be a fighter”