Bad Idea Mafia Vol. 3 - Ovah!?

[th3kuzinator]

Hi.

Read will come after school today. Probably.

 

[Omni]

Why?

much better choices

Apologies for massive inactivity and not posting on hydra, RL johns n ****. I don't expect any of you to care.

Having bombs mass claim is dumb. Not as dumb as it is in my BIM:R setup, but still it's dumb. Bombs can certainly claim if they're on the chopping block though. It isn't THAT big of a threat for scum to know if one person is a bomb, however playing the massclaim game can be dangerous.

Chuckie's "shooter pools" or shooter group idea or whatever is dumb and way overcomplicating things. We should have the scummiest person who isn't the one being shot, shoot and we should have a different shooter every day ideally, to maximize the chance that the assassin gets stuck with a 24 hour cooldown before potential lylo, since we want to limit the scum's ability to quickshoot us to death.

For those of you who didn't read the rules or roles, anyone who daykills gets a 24 hour (IRL) cooldown on their daykill ability from the start of the next day. You can't shoot again for (24 hours)x(# of daykills performed in the game) after the start of each game day. So yeah, pretty important mechanic so don't be dumb and not understand how it ****ing works.

Pretty down with having Swiss be our shooter D1. Not really sure who I want shot though. Haven't had a chance to consult with Riddle at all unfortunately. I'm gonna try to go through this game again tomorrow and find some scum.

that is literally the only important thing
that i cared to read from that entire post
which is an easy fallback imo
everything else is just game mechanics
stuff most of us already know
alot of fluff
obvious things like bombs not claiming
or obvious things like scummy players shooting

i didn't like riddle's intro into the game
and i'm not liking yours
also, wtf @ you two not posting on your hydra account
thats annoying. stop doing that. hard to retrace posts

i say we have chibo shoot bilbo or biblo shoot chibo

 

[Chuckie]

^ I can agree with the last line. I'm read for this day to end.

Gheb put in a deadline, I don't really know why we have a deadline, but it's fairly soon so people should speak up if they disagree.

And Swiss, don't shoot tanny.

 

[Tandora]

much better choices

Like who? And why?

 

[th3kuzinator]

Quick questions.

1. Anything I should know about Omni's posting restriction? Is anyone taking it as a tell in this game considering the other BiM's did not have posting restrictions? Do we know his punishment for breaking it?

2. Are we following through on that voting system?



I don't like Frozen/Riddle so far, nor do I like Swiss. Chuckie null. I will take tanny as town for now, she will inevitably slip on something soon if she is mafia (I have experience reading her).

Agree with Omni's 242 that FF's entire post was full of fluff that just explained the game mechanics. One of the things that caught my eye the first time through.

"Well I was the mod of the first BiM, so I just want to make sure everyone knows how to play"

Nah. You know better than that.

 

[Chuckie]

It's not a restriction, Omni just chose to play that way. I'm curious, what made you think it was a restriction?

And no one used the voting system apart from Omni/us. I'm impartial to it really, but no one wants to use it.

Also why'd you single us out as a null read?

 

[mentosman8]

Man, I shoulda done this earlier in the week, but after working 10.5 hours on my day off today I can't fool myself into thinking I'm going to be able to get anything done until my day off Monday, so V/LA until Monday. I apologize to everyone for my inactivity this past week, but work has been ridiculous and I haven't been able to focus whatsoever. If weather changes tomorrow and we get rain or something I might get something up then, otherwise it's pretty much positive I won't be caught up until Monday. Sorry again for not saying something earlier>_>(and major apologies to both mods for the games I'm in most of all :/ )

 

[th3kuzinator]

Would you look at that. Its not a posting restriction. Must have dreamt it was or something. Unimportant anyway.

Because you have posting a lot these last few pages, which is what I have been focusing on. My previous self was suspicious of you and I think I have reason to be as well. An actual analysis would yield better results but I remember mentally noting a few places where I found your questions either inane or OOC.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Ehh, Mentos wont be back before the deadline.

Freaking inactivity.

Tanny, tell me who is scum, as you are the only one I trust right now.

Omni/Zen are looking okay as well, Ronike's slot is ehh.

 

[KevinM]

Shoot Bilbo

Sorry but if you're going to spend the entire day avoiding prods, not taking a stance and then explaining to me how the game works. A d2 is not something I feel like having you around.

 

[KevinM]

Daykill: Bilbo

If we're being specific.

 

[Xiivi]

BilboBaggins, Town Bomb, is daykilled.
Rockin, Town Cop, is caught in the explosion.

Night 1 begins, send in your night actions.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

KevinM, Townie has been killed during the night.

Day 2 begins.

 

[Omni]

lmao. leave it Kev
to **** up another BIM
anyway we're back at square one
with one cop investigation
scum killed Kev to reset the game

having scummy players shoot
was so that we can prevent this

I'll do maths later. but as of now
I got nuthin new

 

[th3kuzinator]

Well wasn't that a charming experience.

I feel like Kevmo has quickshot in all three installments of this mafia

 

[Chuckie]

That's why we ask for CLAIMS people. CLAIMS.

Dislike how after Sold pointed his finger at us for no apparent reason Kuz just stuck to it without giving reasoning. I don't know why if you're replacing into a town slot on Day 1 you would adopt the reads of who you replaced, especially when they didn't have any reasoning either.

Kuz I want an explanation and content or you can die.

Nich needs to die. Mac needs to post content.

Kat talked me through it and I feel better about Swiss now.

Zen why'd you go inactive

Only maths I can think of is that we now have 2 townies who can't shoot and 2 scum who can't shoot. So 4/10 players can't shoot

 

[Nicholas1024]

I am seriously annoyed at KevinM quickshooting. I wish he was still alive so I could yell at him (and maybe shoot him. It'd be a bad move, but SO satisfying. ) I mean, since when has inactivity been a scumtell for FROZENFLAME of all people?!?

Anyway, I want to point out that one more misshot like that and we've lost. (8 people left, add in the assassin shot, that's all folks.) I'm willing to be the shooter today, as I recognize that I am genuinely scummy (inactivity has been a scumtell for me, and my reasons are basically RL excuses, so...). My best reason why is game mechanics. If I'm assassin, it's an extra lynch basically (plus the could cop investigate me if necessary.) If I'm town, of course it's the right choice.

Anyway, the remaining bomb should claim now. It's no big deal if the assassin shoots it, as there's an even number of players left, and we could really use the clear.

 

[Chuckie]

Anyway, the remaining bomb should claim now. It's no big deal if the assassin shoots it, as there's an even number of players left, and we could really use the clear.

I get the numbers but wtf @ jumping the gun Nich. We still don't know if the cop got a guilty or not, it's probably a good idea to wait.

That said, if cop DOES claim a guilty DO NOT QUICKSHOOT. Scum can easily fake that.

 

[Nicholas1024]

I get the numbers but wtf @ jumping the gun Nich. We still don't know if the cop got a guilty or not, it's probably a good idea to wait.

That said, if cop DOES claim a guilty DO NOT QUICKSHOOT. Scum can easily fake that.

It can't hurt us at this point. We have an even number right now, which means that the extra death via bomb can't hurt us. I suppose there's no harm in waiting a day or two for any reasonable objection, but I think bomb should claim, personally.

 

[Xivii]

Chuckie, I don't think I was inactive >.>.

I don't think bomb should claim anymore because even if it wont hurt us now, scum can still use it later.

I thought Bilbo was a good shot, but we still should have had him claim first and have gotten everyone's opinions.

Like Omni and Tan. Maybe Kuz.
Not sure on Chuckie or Nich. Swiss and Mentos need to post more. Same for Chibo and Ronike. All 4 can die. Though the latter 2 are more scummy to me. Chibo's reasoning for wanting Swiss to shoot still makes little sense to me. And Ronike calling me out on focusing on Omni's playstyle looked so fake to me.

Vandy Chuckie: What makes you feel better about Swiss?

 

[Xivii]

Kuz, you said that Tandora would reveal herself as scum soon enough if she was scum. Does that mean you currrntly have a null read or town read?


Sorry for typos. On wiinet and show is about to come on.

 

[Xivii]

Ok I'm not getting why it would be ok for bomb to claim now as opposed to yesterday. Someone should show me the math.

 

[Swiss]

So I wish we'd agreed to shoot anyone that quickshot. That would have been awesome and stopped Kev from being a ******.

Ronike can die. Tan can die. Chibo should be scum but I hear he plays terribly a lot.

Not much mo' content to add. Gimme tiiiiime.

 

[Chuckie]

^ No it wouldn't of. Kevin would of done it anyway, he's stubborn like that. And whoever shot him would of been a complete ****** or scum would of killed him off anyway.

And zen, Kat says he can read swiss like a childrens book . Specifically he said this to me:

I feel like I can read Swiss well and it's funny because he always claims he's "unreadable"... anyway it's because I reread and he looks like a deer in headlights, which imo = town Swiss because it looks like he's got no clear direction and playing off the cuff, whereas as scum I know for sure he likes to plan ahead. There's various other things as well but I'm running out of tiiime!

wrt to bombs, the way I see it is if the bomb claims and assassin shoots, it will end up with:

3 townies (2-3 can shoot depending if cop is alive)
and 2 scum who can't shoot.

This seems pretty bad as it is LYLO for two days in a row, and a bomb claim + assassin quick shoot would be a real good way to cut down information and let lurkers slide through the cracks.

And LYLO with very little info where scum can choose who to kill... yeah not a great option for town imo.

 

[Swiss]

That's what I want Kat to think.

 

[Swiss]

Did I just claim scum?

Oh GG Swiss.

 

[Tandora]

Swiss, are you claiming scum?

 

[Tandora]

Nich, did you even bother to count how many townies vs scum there are? How can you honestly believe having bombs claim at this time is good? Odd vs even shouldn't even matter at all.

Since you volunteered to shoot, who would you shoot? Why?

 

[Swiss]

Tan is Nich 100% confirmed town to you?

He should be.

 

[Omni]

why are you spewing out
so much nonsense, Swiss

 

[th3kuzinator]

I hate to say it, but Swiss is right.

After being in the last two installments, what type of mafia would actually draw attention to himself and suggest that the other bombs claim, knowing that doing so would be anti-town. Thats what went through my head anyway.

 

[Omni]

either really smart one
or a really stupid one
which makes the concept effective

kuz, do you mind chibo shooting or being shot
and if we have him shoot
who would u like him to shoot
and why

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

Quickshot in a game with no deadlines for activity reasons? Is this the level of activity ****riding SWF has come to?

Oh well, go town.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

sorry, ive yet to read this thread,
doin so now

 

[mentosman8]

Kuz: The same kind that would make that kind of comment as town. Quite frankly that's a terrible reason to find someone as townie. Yeah, bomb claiming is a terrible idea, but no townie OR scum actually thinking things through would argue they should do that.

Kev's shot is getting a lot more flak than it should of, and I'm looking into the players involved in that. Multiple people said they'd be fine with Riddle/Frozen dying, there were 2 days until the deadline. That's not a quickshot, and I'm going to see if I can tell who jumped on it just to seem like an upset townie, and who jumped on it legitimately frustrated. Could be a great lead.

I'm going to work on that to try to figure out where I think we should go today. I've got a couple people I'm starting to like as town more after reading up on what I missed, and that should help along too.

 

[Tandora]

Tan is Nich 100% confirmed town to you?

He should be.

Are you asking is he 100% town to me because of his play? Or are you asking if he's 100% town since you think I'm scum and I should know who's town? -_-

Kuz! I'm gonna be watching you for the next week. If I don't see a lot of activity and good questions from you, then I'll shoot you. How does that make you feel?

 

[th3kuzinator]

Scared ****-less.

Will respond to the other stuff in a sec, finishing up a post in another game.

 

[Omni]

mentos
it's not about kevs pick
the target is fine
the point was to have a scummy player
take the shot
you know this
so why are you looking past this

 

[Nicholas1024]

Someone tell me why it's a bad idea for the remaining bomb to claim. We need the clear, and there's no downside that I see. We have an even number of people. Going down to odd doesn't hurt us, so the extra death from a bomb explosion DOESN'T HURT US. It's a free clear for crying out loud!

 

[mentosman8]

There's a downside Nich, trust me. It hurts town a lot more than you're thinking, you need to think wider. Terrible for town and I'm not going to say it in case mafia doesn't know yet.

Omni, it's moreso the responses of some people seem kneejerk, and most say he quickshot, not that they're upset he didn't wait for someone else to shoot.