Bad Idea Mafia Vol. 3 - Ovah!?

[Chuckie]

I really hate you all

 

[Swiss]

So..Tan shoots Chibo?

I forget.

 

[Nix2100]

So..Tan shoots Swiss?

Fix'd that for you >_>

 

[Omni]

with no deadline there's no sense of urgency
so
if im not happy with the activity at the end of the today
im shooting down a coaster

 

[Tandora]

Warning!
Warning!
Warning!

I will shoot Kuz in the next 48 hours unless he convinces me otherwise.

I am announcing an intent to shoot.

 

[Swiss]

Warning!
Warning!
Warning!

I will shoot Nix in the next 24 hrs.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Gordito officially replaces Mentosman

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Warning!
Warning!
Warning!

Don't end the Day till I reread. I'll try to have something up by tonight, or by the absolute latest, tomorrow afternoon. But it'll be soon. Promise.

 

[Nix2100]

Swiss you accuse both me and Tan of being scum, but you say you will shoot me instead of Tan who has said she will be shooting someone within 48 hours >_>

I also find it amusing your both willing to shoot someone without majority consensus >_> lack of activity regardless seems like a bad idea....oh...nvm >_> I got it

 

[Omni]

lack of activity = there is no game to play
totally legit reason to threat/kill someone

swiss and tan are stupid
for suggesting that they'd shoot scummy players
when the whole point is to get scummy players
to shoot another scummy player

either they didnt learn from kevin
or they dont care to learn from kevin

 

[Omni]

Omni
Swiss
Ronike Macman
Mentosman Gordito
Chuckie
Nicholas
]ChiboSempai Nix
Zen
]Tandora
Sold2 th3kuzinator

actually, after going back through this list
there isn't -too- many inactives
just 4 replacements that stalled the game
sigh
replacements really screw up my scumhunting game

 

[Nicholas1024]

Amazing that you could have 4 replacements in a small Bad Idea mafia game.

I think this game is living (or should I say dead?) proof that deadlines are needed in a game.

@Omni
Is there anyone you'd like me to shoot before Swiss/Tand/someone else pulls off another bonehead shot for the game loser?

 

[Swiss]

FWIW I was looking for a reaction from Tan. She simply decided not to react or post.

 

[Xivii]

Kuz answer Chuckie's #309. I know you've been on.

this game is on pause until
Mac and Chibo talks
and mentos says more
I've had my fair share of everyone else

dead game is dead

with no deadline there's no sense of urgency
so
if im not happy with the activity at the end of the today
im shooting down a coaster

Not sure why you felt the need to call the game on pause and are now commenting on the deadness of it. The first post implies you had sufficient reads for the day other than the three who were not posting that you mentioned. This seems off to me. And I've noticed the only scummy read you have givin this game is Chibo which basically was for inactivity. And that's all you been focusing on. What are you thinking about Mac and Nix now that they have posted? We shouldn't just be shooting based on inactivity, we need to be shooting for scum. What are your reads other than "people need to post more"??

@Omni
Is there anyone you'd like me to shoot before Swiss/Tand/someone else pulls off another bonehead shot for the game loser?

Why do you insist on this Nich? Like it's weird to me that you you're making the assumption that people think you're scum from hardly anything.. Why would you intentionally set yourself as the person to shoot if you know you're town?


Like Omni less. Like Kuz less. Nich should shoot. Same on everyone else.

 

[Tandora]

Swiss you accuse both me and Tan of being scum, but you say you will shoot me instead of Tan who has said she will be shooting someone within 48 hours >_>

I also find it amusing your both willing to shoot someone without majority consensus >_> lack of activity regardless seems like a bad idea....oh...nvm >_> I got it

It is really interesting that Swiss picked someone else instead of me.

What do you think it means?

lack of activity = there is no game to play
totally legit reason to threat/kill someone

swiss and tan are stupid
for suggesting that they'd shoot scummy players
when the whole point is to get scummy players
to shoot another scummy player

either they didnt learn from kevin
or they dont care to learn from kevin

1) I don't think it's stupid to encourage activity.
2) I've been saying I'd shoot someone all game.
3) Clearly I did learn from Kevin. I gave a fair warning of who I would shoot. Plenty of time for people to talk and convince me otherwise.
4) I gave a warning five days ago I'd shoot Kuz if his activity wasn't good. Kuz is notorious for his inactivity as scum.
5) I thought I was one of the scummy people.
6) You got any better ideas, then do them instead of criticizing.

FWIW I was looking for a reaction from Tan. She simply decided not to react or post.

No, I just haven't looked at the thread until now. =/

Why Nix, Swiss? Random pick? Want a legit reason to kill a townie?

 

[Xivii]

Actually like Nix more too.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Gordito
Omni
Swiss
Chuckie
Nicholas
th3kuzinator
Zen
Tandora
Macman
Nix

K. Read up. And I thought it'd be much more than it was. I'm pretty set on who 2/3 scum are at this point, but I can't completely decide on the 3rd scummy. Lemme start in descending order (lolwut just realized I made my town-scum list in the order of traffic lights).

The players in green are pretty solid townies in my eyes. Omni, even though he said he's gonna play lazy, seems to be doing the opposite. And even though
his paragraph thingy
gets kind of annoying,
it seems like he's one of the people that wanna try and get this game rolling and winning for town. I like that.

OMG Swiss and Chuckie on the same town list?! RORF! Anyway, Swiss is kind of hard for me to read sometimes. I'm not gonna be insert-name-here (you know who I'm talkin bout Swiss) and say my reads are 100% for ya, but I'm confident that you're town. With your early D1 play wrt "bullying mechanics" and that jazz as an example, I can't see scum Swiss try'na do that. And in a nutshell, I think that Chuckie's play this game is quite comparable to Halo Maf. I'll expand on that if I really gotta, but you guys should know what I mean.

Nich is a town read, but he just seems to be playing... kinda weak. What do you mean by that Gord?! Well, when I hear from people outside of game that Nich tends to be extremely aggressive and doesn't let go of scum reads, and I don't see that same type of aggression here, I am disappoint. Still, from his posts, he seems to be having townie intentions. But it might not take much to get em from town read to yellow.

A lot of the yellow is from people trying to prod dodge, fishy replacing out, and/or genuine scumminess. th3 hasn't done much too scummy, but I didn't really like Sold. Definitely my slightest possible scum tell, and it also has to do with another possible scum tell which will be explained later. Zen's general popping in and out seems really worrisome, and I get a sense of laziness from his posts, which by Maf All Stars standards kinda says scum. But, I'd be lying if I said that his posts were super scummy, and weren't some things that I agree with. So, yea, I'd have to say ehh, maybe, but not quite. I'd have to read back to solidify that thought. Now, Tandora is the STRONGEST possible scum read. All of what she's been doing has been kinda trying to be here, without actually getting her hands dirty. Plus, her interactions with people like Omni and Chibo were kinda odd to me. She's one of the people I think I'd want shooting toDay.

Aaand then you get to the red. Ronike's post about the whole troll Swiss screams fake contributing to me. Haven't seen troll Swiss on SWF in a while, and that's, like, dumb or scum if you're try'na call Swiss scummy for having a not so familiar playstyle. And Ronike's not dumb. Then Macman comes in and... welp... doesn't say much. I feel like it can be scum try'na get his scummies to help em make a post, but idk. And then, Chibo/Nix, my strongest scum pick. Chibo's been basically prod dodging his entire way through, not doing anything. There's not a pro town thing I can say about him.

Sorry for the post being kinda lazy, I don't have too much time to get into much detail. And I really wanted to get something in before I went to sleep. So yea I did.

 

[Xivii]

Also Omni, what differentiates Tandora's and Swiss' threats from your "imma shoot an inactive threat"?

 

[Xivii]

I think that Chuckie's play this game is quite comparable to Halo Maf. I'll expand on that if I really gotta, but you guys should know what I mean.

Please do.

Also what about Nich's posts seem to give off town intentions to you? And what stood out with Tandora's interactions with Omni and Chibo? You realize Tandora has proposed multiple times that she wants to shoot. So I'm not seeing how she is avoiding getting her hands dirty.

 

[Chuckie]

Nich shoots Kuz, or vice versa imo. Zen what do you think?

Nich I have trouble commiting to because he's just lurking so much. Our case/thoughts on him are kind of WIFOMish. But I can definitely see scum Nich put his hand up to shoot as a bluff (or not if he is the assassin) under very little pressure. And he was so confident about the bomb claiming, that I know he has definitely run the numbers (he's a mathematician ffs).

Mathematically, it DOES makes sense to narrow the pool of unknown players from 10 to 9 in LYLO.

I've ran the numbers and we are always going to be in LYLO as long as the assassin gets to shoot someone who isn't mafia.

But keeping the bomb alive guarantees us confirmed townies when we're down to 1 mafia. If scum decide to shoot our confirmed townie shooters like they did to Kevin, then the cop and bomb will give us the clears we need when it gets to a small amount of players.

I can still see Town Nich offering to shoot in our current scenario. However, not without speaking his mind on who he thinks should be shot. He hasn't actually scum hunted, and to basically ask for the "deciding vote" on who town should shoot in LYLO without giving thoughts on it is real yuck.

From my perspective, offering to shoot in this game is comparable to cracking under the pressure and role claiming in an ordinary game of mafia. From a townie perspective, you want your actions to speak louder than your abilities. You want to keep the pressure on scum and by doing so ensure that you aren't lynched.

Of course, survival play isn't townie play, and it's not a townies job to survive at all costs; but cracking and claiming "I'll shoot toDay guys" and then lurking hardcore isn't townie play imo.

Kuz has been mad inactive too, but I still believe Kuz only said wii were a null read because Sold said he was suspicious of us. He later elaborated that he had reason to believe we were suspicious. But I don't think that he would of specifically said we were null/suspicous without giving some reasoning to back it up, or trying to pressure us for more info or convince others that he was right.

Kuz has drawn a conclusion on our alignment NOT from scum hunting or reasoning, but basically because his player slot made the same conclusion. And he has shown no intention of following up. I don't see why he would be content with thinking "well Chuckie is suspicious to me but I'm not going to voice my suspicions"

This is one example, but it is indicative of Kuz's overall play. He hasn't acted on his suspicions/leads as I'd expect a townie who had just replaced in to a game to do. He's just sat there and given thoughts.

Mac's probably my 3rd pick atm along with mentos. Mainly mentos for inactivity and I didn't like mentos yesterDay. And Mac's post pretty just reaffirmed what others had said about everything. I didn't get anything really new out of it, and they were very shallow thoughts that are obvious anyway.

 

[th3kuzinator]

So Kuz, did you actually believe we claimed to know your alignment to be town while simultaneously calling you scummy?

Yes. Hence why it did not make any sense to me and I question you about it. Not that hard.

If you can't see how your phrasing was ambiguous, then I think its you who needs the English lessons.

What information are you hoping to get out of us by asking "How do you know that I am town?"

Well I wasn't exactly expecting you to come out and say "Yes I slipped, I know you're town because I am scum," but I thought some clarification could shed some light on your actual view of my alignment. And wow, it actually has!

Additionally why have you twice failed to give reasoning for why "My previous self was suspicious of you and I think I have reason to be as well"

You're a suspicious kind of guy, what can I say. Placing my finger directly on why I feel uneasy about you would be difficult, but just take it as gut for now.

Why should I know he's not scum? Again it sounds like you're calling me scum with no reasoning to back it up.

Because he is town. I don't care that its partly based off of WIFOM, but I have a strong town read in his direction and, though he posted carelessly, he is clearly not afraid to speak his mind. I don't like your push on him because it does look like you are trying to take advantage of him by highlighting a slip that was nothing more than a misguided strategy.

And do you just parrot Swiss' reads or am I imagining things?

You dreamin'

Nix, do you really think Swiss and I are on the same scum team?

Kuz, do you?

If you shot me and after I flip town, would that clear Swiss? What about vice versa?

No.

You flipping town would be a null on Swiss
You flipping scum would be a town on Swiss

Warning!
Warning!
Warning!

I will shoot Kuz in the next 48 hours unless he convinces me otherwise.

I am announcing an intent to shoot.

What will it take to convince you, my lovely tando? But in all honesty, my scum read on you is growing.

Kuz is notorious for his inactivity as scum.

Lol. Coming from the player who has only played in my first game ever on dGames, where I was scum. Glad I have built up such a reputation for lurking as scum. However, this meta is wrong and you should feel bad that you even suggested that. You know what I think? I think you know I know your playstyle the best and you are scared of that. Ever since replacing into this game, you play has decline from the town play I saw early D1. Suddenly, as soon as I appeared, most of your posts have been directed towards me, highly regulating my activity and finding underhanded ways to throws jabs at me. Wouldn't it be convenient if you had actually hammered me in 48 hours of that post? You would be using some BS meta excuse that I coast as scum and would remove the player who reads you best.

Look back at all of Tando's posts since I replaced in. "If I dont see enough content out of Kuz soon, I am assuming he is scum and shooting him" "Kuz how many games are you in so I can yell at you for coasting?" "scumKuz always lurks, ill be shooting in 48 hours if he cannot convince me." Granted, there was like one legitimate question thrown in there, but most of it has been trying to build a scumKuz case largely made of air.

th3 hasn't done much too scummy, but I didn't really like Sold

Lmao, you are still the only one who calls me th3. Kuz is not that hard to say. What did you specifically not like about sold?

Kuz has been mad inactive too, but I still believe Kuz only said wii were a null read because Sold said he was suspicious of us. He later elaborated that he had reason to believe we were suspicious. But I don't think that he would of specifically said we were null/suspicous without giving some reasoning to back it up, or trying to pressure us for more info or convince others that he was right.

Kuz has drawn a conclusion on our alignment NOT from scum hunting or reasoning, but basically because his player slot made the same conclusion. And he has shown no intention of following up. I don't see why he would be content with thinking "well Chuckie is suspicious to me but I'm not going to voice my suspicions"

Read these two paragraphs as "Kuz is suspicious of us, yet he has not written a formal essay on it yet, therefore hes scum and should be shot by nick."

Strawmanning? Absolutely. Regardless, you are making an awfully big deal about my one comment saying you were suspicious. I never even inferenced that you were scum for this (more of a shaky null), yet you already assumed I called you scum and have already built a counter case against me (mostly re-stating the same point multiple times) without even hearing my sentiments on the subject.

This is one example, but it is indicative of Kuz's overall play. He hasn't acted on his suspicions/leads as I'd expect a townie who had just replaced in to a game to do. He's just sat there and given thoughts.

I applaud you for admitting that you are over-highlighting one example, but I don't see you can simply generalize my overall play with one incident and get that I should be shot for it. Besides the fact that you're heavily reaching, I simply have not posted enough content in the game yet to warrant such a generalization.

 

[Nix2100]

Gordito >_> Your logic fails on Chibo, he replaced out for a reason and accusing us of being scum for that reason is kinda lame.

If a lack of a deadline is a problem then we should just assign a deadline ourselves, This Friday? Maybe this Wednesday? Not sure what we would do if we didn't meet our own deadlines but its a idea >_>

Liking Chuckie at the moment, not too sure about his case on kuz though @_@

Also Zen, your avatar keeps distracting me -_-

 

[th3kuzinator]

Does Nick normally play like this? I don't think I have ever seen him in a game nor have I read one where he has participated.

 

[th3kuzinator]

EBWOP: Nix. Not nick.

 

[Nix2100]

>_> Normally play like what?

 

[Omni]

Not sure why you felt the need to call the game on pause and are now commenting on the deadness of it. The first post implies you had sufficient reads for the day other than the three who were not posting that you mentioned. This seems off to me. And I've noticed the only scummy read you have givin this game is Chibo which basically was for inactivity. And that's all you been focusing on. What are you thinking about Mac and Nix now that they have posted? We shouldn't just be shooting based on inactivity, we need to be shooting for scum. What are your reads other than "people need to post more"??

the need was from the fact
that barely anyone posted all weekend
there's nothing wrong with having sufficient reads
i dislike passing judgment on scum
until i've got a good read on the entire cast
what about that seems "off"? that sounds fake

i've never given Chibo a scummy read
i've wanted him to respond to questions/statements
and he never did
and now i've been focusing on the rest of the inactives/replacements
to talk
you forget to mention that i've said i'm completely fine with Swiss
and his early actions which is important because there's as lot of conflict
with him

im not liking you very much, Zen.
you know how i play so nothing should be off
and you're worrying me because im a very easy read

i want Tandora to shoot you
or for you to shoot Tandora

6) You got any better ideas, then do them instead of criticizing.

i already said what was a better idea
having a scummy player shoot another scummy player

Also Omni, what differentiates Tandora's and Swiss' threats from your "imma shoot an inactive threat"?

mine is empty; i'm just annoyed
at how slow the game has been running
so a threat from Omni saying he'll kill coasters
would (and did) jumpstart the game a bit more

 

[Omni]

oh, and macman can be shot by either
Tan or Zen

 

[Xivii]

Omni are you kidding me? Everytime I say something to you, you reply to it in a way that I didn't even mean. You called somebody else earlier for twisting what you are saying, but you're doing that exact thing. Or not paying attention to what I'm saying.

the need was from the fact
that barely anyone posted all weekend
there's nothing wrong with having sufficient reads
i dislike passing judgment on scum
until i've got a good read on the entire cast
what about that seems "off"? that sounds fake

This isn't fake in anyway.

By 'why did you feel the need' I mean why did you feel the need to even say the game is on pause until the inactives post and then get upset about people not posting. You're showing that you don't need much from anyone else but the inactives in the first post. Then you get upset for people not posting. Hence the line of thought you were presenting in the second and third posts are off from the line of thought you were presenting in the first posts. How do you not get this? You're reaction to this is just eug.

In Dgames you were nothing like this. You were much more active in scumhunting. Here, all you are doing is inactive hunting. You've hardly asked questions or persued anything other than inactives (up until now when I call you out on it).

i've never given Chibo a scummy read
i've wanted him to respond to questions/statements
and he never did
and now i've been focusing on the rest of the inactives/replacements
to talk
you forget to mention that i've said i'm completely fine with Swiss
and his early actions which is important because there's as lot of conflict
with him

That's the point, you were against him for inactivity. Not because you felt he was scummy. I don't remember your Swiss view, but I'll look back. But I still want to to hear more from you. Scum reads are what I mostly care about.

im not liking you very much, Zen.
you know how i play so nothing should be off
and you're worrying me because im a very easy read

i want Tandora to shoot you
or for you to shoot Tandora

As I said, the Omni I know from Dgames was much more involved with scumhunting. Even Indy Mario Kart mafia was more involved than you have been here.

"Off" wasn't refering to your meta if that is what you're proposing.

And no, you're not easy to read. You say this, but you're not. You said this in Dgames too and half, if not more, of the players had a null read on you through out the game. I didn't even trust you until the end. If you were so easy to read, you wouldn't have made it so far in Mario Kart mafia. So this isn't a valid excuse to accuse me of being scum because I find you suspicious at all.

mine is empty; i'm just annoyed
at how slow the game has been running
so a threat from Omni saying he'll kill coasters
would (and did) jumpstart the game a bit more

Fine. Then you feel Swiss' threat was fine and not Tandora's? Also when is it that you started having a scum read on Tandora? From this post? Or earlier? Specificly. As yesterday you were opposed to her shooting. Or do you want her to shoot/be shot because I have had a town read on her?

 

[Xivii]

@Chuckie: Not sure who I want to be shot yet.

 

[Xivii]

'From this post' = #325.

 

[th3kuzinator]

V/LA for a bit, going to japan.

Will be able to post a bit every other night probably. Will try to stay as active as possible.

 

[Chuckie]

Yes. Hence why it did not make any sense to me and I question you about it. Not that hard.

If you can't see how your phrasing was ambiguous, then I think its you who needs the English lessons.

Your questions were loaded. "Why are you so sure I'm a town slot?" How would you expect me to answer something like this as a townie?

Well I wasn't exactly expecting you to come out and say "Yes I slipped, I know you're town because I am scum," but I thought some clarification could shed some light on your actual view of my alignment. And wow, it actually has!

k

You're a suspicious kind of guy, what can I say. Placing my finger directly on why I feel uneasy about you would be difficult, but just take it as gut for now.

k

Because he is town. I don't care that its partly based off of WIFOM, but I have a strong town read in his direction and, though he posted carelessly, he is clearly not afraid to speak his mind. I don't like your push on him because it does look like you are trying to take advantage of him by highlighting a slip that was nothing more than a misguided strategy.

I disagree. Nich has been afraid to speak his mind on who he thinks is scum. It's a topic I don't believe he's touched upon toDay (all I remember is him saying is that he liked Omni) or even that much yesterDay.

In previous BIM (and heck all games of mafia mostly) scum gravitate to discussing mechanics because it is easy to discuss regardless of alignment, as it's just number crunching.

Add to that how keen he was to offer to shoot, with barely any pressure on him just reeks.

I don't care for Nich's play this game, and really have no clue why you think he's town.

Read these two paragraphs as "Kuz is suspicious of us, yet he has not written a formal essay on it yet, therefore hes scum and should be shot by nick."

That's exaggerating. Knowing why we are suspicious would be nice though.

Strawmanning? Absolutely. Regardless, you are making an awfully big deal about my one comment saying you were suspicious.

I've moved on to bigger things, such as you ignoring my question of "why are we suspicious?" and responding with loaded questions that serve no real purpose other than to incriminate.

I never even inferenced that you were scum for this (more of a shaky null), yet you already assumed I called you scum and have already built a counter case against me (mostly re-stating the same point multiple times) without even hearing my sentiments on the subject.

1. I never said you called us scum. You said you had reason to think we were "suspicious." That's what I was talking about. Exaggerate less please.

2. Yes, the "counter case" was me repeating myself as it had been 3 days and no one had said anything about it, including you. I thought it had been forgotten so I restated it with my other scum reads atm.

I applaud you for admitting that you are over-highlighting one example, but I don't see you can simply generalize my overall play with one incident and get that I should be shot for it. Besides the fact that you're heavily reaching, I simply have not posted enough content in the game yet to warrant such a generalization.

I don't see that you're generally interested in finding scum. Your entrance into the game was weird, and I don't like how you pointed a finger yet when asked to back it up you couldn't. Your reasoning for having Nich as town is weak and incorrect. Your town reads felt like a parrot of what Swiss/others said earlier. Your switch from a town to scum read on Tan is barely substantiated by reasoning, and also feels like a parrot of Swiss/Omni.

 

[Nix2100]

In previous BIM (and heck all games of mafia mostly) scum gravitate to discussing mechanics because it is easy to discuss regardless of alignment, as it's just number crunching.

So your saying discussing mechanics is a scum tell? I slightly agree if it goes on for a long time >_> its a bit distracting but whats interesting is this

Mathematically, it DOES makes sense to narrow the pool of unknown players from 10 to 9 in LYLO.

I've ran the numbers and we are always going to be in LYLO as long as the assassin gets to shoot someone who isn't mafia.

But keeping the bomb alive guarantees us confirmed townies when we're down to 1 mafia. If scum decide to shoot our confirmed townie shooters like they did to Kevin, then the cop and bomb will give us the clears we need when it gets to a small amount of players.

Aren't you doing the same thing? =P

 

[Tandora]

Initially I liked Kuz's big return post, but on a second read I feel that it's just a defense post. It only defends his actions without promoting any new information at all.

Plus him going V/LA makes me want to shoot him more.

I'm glad to see activity has picked up.

Here's a proposal, I'd like other players to voice their opinions on. Vote even.

Option A - I shoot Kuz.
Option B - I shoot whoever Omni tells me too.

If we go with option A, I'm taking full responsiblity of shooting my target.
If we go with option B, then Omni is responsible for my shoot. We can look at him for either being a good leader or a bad scum.

Personally, I vote A. But Omni seems to think he knows better than me but he hasn't offered to shoot anyone at all, which has all sort of implications in my opinion.

 

[Omni]

@zen: i've been telling u all game
that my scumhunting game has been off
due to the huge amounts of replacements
people who i started to dislike or wanted to find scummy
(bilbo, rockin, chibo, mentos)
are either dead or have been replaced
so that severely screws me up

to make up for it
i am fine with Swiss and Nich living
i'm not a fan of you at the moment
nor am i fan of Tan or Macman

Initially I liked Kuz's big return post, but on a second read I feel that it's just a defense post. It only defends his actions without promoting any new information at all.

Plus him going V/LA makes me want to shoot him more.

I'm glad to see activity has picked up.

Here's a proposal, I'd like other players to voice their opinions on. Vote even.

Option A - I shoot Kuz.
Option B - I shoot whoever Omni tells me too.

If we go with option A, I'm taking full responsiblity of shooting my target.
If we go with option B, then Omni is responsible for my shoot. We can look at him for either being a good leader or a bad scum.

Personally, I vote A. But Omni seems to think he knows better than me but he hasn't offered to shoot anyone at all, which has all sort of implications in my opinion.

hey hey hey
i aint tryna be a good leader or a bad scum
wait, wait... good leader or bad scum?
so if i hit mafia i'm a good leader?
and if i miss mafia i'm a bad scum?
just cuz i might miss mafia dosen't mean im scum, tan
and just cuz i hit mafia doesn't mean i'm town

actually, why are u fine with shooting whoever i say u should shoot?
do you find me scummy
or do you find me leaning to be more townie
and why

 

[Swiss]

 

[Swiss]

Well no point in having Tan shoot imho. Cop her. Or have her shot.

Would like to see Chibo's slot (izzat Gord? Please no) shoot Kuz (compromise) or Nix.

 

[Nix2100]

Whats with the picture? o_O

And i replaced Chibo =P Gordito replaced mentos

 

[Swiss]

It says Gord is V/LA.

Take a wild guess.

And I deffo want your slot dead then. Chibo is always mad scummy though.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Confirming that I'm V/LA.