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AllyKnight

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CO18 and Seibrik might make using Ally against the South crew a dangerous idea. How do you feel about facing those guys, Elliot? We have 10 players to choose from, so I could just not use you in this one. I probably won't use Fatal against that team either since he has a Dedede problem. If you're cool with facing the two best Dededes against Snake in a match-up your character loses slightly, then I guess it's fine to use you.
The thing is, by showing who you're picking for our crew, they also have a clue who to use to counter. But I honestly wouldn't mind, because EC will win anyhow, comon which region is strong enough to beat the devastating coast known as Beast Coast.

 

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The thing is, by showing who you're picking for our crew, they also have a clue who to use to counter. But I honestly wouldn't mind, because EC will win anyhow, comon which region is strong enough to beat the devastating coast known as Beast Coast.

Cute.

I don't mind making such strategies public. My exact strategies during the battle will remain between me and Tantalus for now (assuming you all can accept him as co-captain). We'll use you all perfectly to obtain victory.

If you are comfortable with facing something like CO18/Seibrik + Delfino/FD and can at least go even in that situation, you will be used against the South crew, otherwise I'm going to be benching the Snakes on that one. They have waaaay too much Snake experience and two **** Dededes that are the best at that match-up.

As for facing the Midwest team, you will likely be our hero in that one. You are ideal to beat Lain, Mew2King, and Judge, their top three players.

I don't know the West Coast team's line-up yet or the International line-up, but I'm not too worried about the International team. I'm going to purposely bench you in that one in order to let everyone else get a chance to play.
 

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Inui let me get one of those analysis' like how you did for Kel. :)
 

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Cute.

I don't mind making such strategies public. My exact strategies during the battle will remain between me and Tantalus for now (assuming you all can accept him as co-captain). We'll use you all perfectly to obtain victory.

If you are comfortable with facing something like CO18/Seibrik + Delfino/FD and can at least go even in that situation, you will be used against the South crew, otherwise I'm going to be benching the Snakes on that one. They have waaaay too much Snake experience and two **** Dededes that are the best at that match-up.

As for facing the Midwest team, you will likely be our hero in that one. You are ideal to beat Lain, Mew2King, and Judge, their top three players.

I don't know the West Coast team's line-up yet or the International line-up, but I'm not too worried about the International team. I'm going to purposely bench you in that one in order to let everyone else get a chance to play.
Well maybe not use too many Snakes for the South Crew, I am sure that even though they are experienced, you will need atleast a Snake. Don't be silly, Apex 1st money match with Seibrik is the only one I cared. CO18 was me playing not campy and ********.



Maybe all of this was a fluke my sir.
 

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i need to read the pound 4 crew rules a little bit more, specifically, I need to know if we know their character as in most crew battles.
 

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Cute.

I don't mind making such strategies public. My exact strategies during the battle will remain between me and Tantalus for now (assuming you all can accept him as co-captain). We'll use you all perfectly to obtain victory.

If you are comfortable with facing something like CO18/Seibrik + Delfino/FD and can at least go even in that situation, you will be used against the South crew, otherwise I'm going to be benching the Snakes on that one. They have waaaay too much Snake experience and two **** Dededes that are the best at that match-up.

As for facing the Midwest team, you will likely be our hero in that one. You are ideal to beat Lain, Mew2King, and Judge, their top three players.

I don't know the West Coast team's line-up yet or the International line-up, but I'm not too worried about the International team. I'm going to purposely bench you in that one in order to let everyone else get a chance to play.
I can take judge and I've worked on the d3 matchup too:)
 

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Well maybe not use too many Snakes for the South Crew, I am sure that even though they are experienced, you will need atleast a Snake. Don't be silly, Apex 1st money match with Seibrik is the only one I cared. CO18 was me playing not campy and ********.

Maybe all of this was a fluke my sir.
I know Candy is effing amazing against Dedede and that you're the best player on the team, but it's okay if most of the Snakes want to be benched. I wouldn't want that tension. If Seibrik and CO18 are playing well and take you to a good stage for them, it could be bad news and put a lot of pressure on you.

Vs South:
Ally (Snake)
Atomsk (Dedede)
ksizzle (Meta Knight)
NEO (Marth)
ADHD (Diddy Kong)
Anti (Meta Knight)
Candy (Snake)

Not using Fatal because of the Dededes and how much experience South has against Snake. Last spot goes to ChuDat (Kirby) or Snakeee (Zero Suit Samus). Which wildcard should be used? I think South is going to be the crew to beat. We're looking at Dojo, UltimateRazer, Gnes, Seibrik, CO18, Lee Martin, and Reflex all being in the same crew. That is crazy powerful and definitely rivals our team.


Vs Midwest:
Ally (Snake)
Atomsk (Ice Climbers or Meta Knight)
ksizzle (Meta Knight)
ADHD (Diddy Kong)
Anti (Meta Knight)
Candy (Snake)
Fatal (Snake)
Snakeee (Zero Suit Samus)

I'm certain they have no real ZSS experience. I don't want to use ChuDat since Kirby is not a mystery to them if YbM actually plays them and is good, and I'm scared of ChuDat vs Lain or Mew2King happening. I want all the Snakes in this one due to Mew2King, Lain, and Judge. And, because of those same three players, I want to avoid using NEO. I want to use Atomsk, but not his Dedede, because of the three players I mentioned and Anther. His Meta Knight or Ice Climbers will work out very well.


Vs International:
Atomsk (Dedede)
ksizzle (Meta Knight)
Snakeee (Zero Suit Samus)
ChuDat (Kirby)
Fatal (Snake)
ADHD (Diddy Kong
NEO (Marth)
Anti (Meta Knight)

I'm benching Ally for this one in order to let other players get a chance to shine. No problems there, right? I'm not really underestimating the International team, but I'm sure we'll win without Ally.


Vs West Coast:
Ally (Snake)
Atomsk (Dedede)
ksizzle (Lucario)
ChuDat (Kirby)
Anti (Meta Knight)
Candy (Snake)
Snakeee (Zero Suit Samus)
ADHD (Diddy Kong)

Fatal can take the bench on this one again. No offense meant towards him, but he's probably #9 or #10 on the team. I notice West Coast has match-up issues in their top players, so we can definitely use both Snakeee and ChuDat to take advantage of this and have ksizzle use his Lucario. West Coast might be using fillers since they will have the lowest amount of players there, but we can't sleep on them. I am apprehensive about using NEO because of how much Marth experience they have.
 

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Who agreed on Snakeeee? No one, like you said lets see his results at Hobo b4 he's allowed on over say ahhh MEEP who everyone wants on and is better. Not to mention other people like June and NL are better.

edit: btw your name was better b4 D:
 

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Who agreed on Snakeeee? No one, like you said lets see his results at Hobo b4 he's allowed on over say ahhh MEEP who everyone wants on and is better. Not to mention other people like June and NL are better.
You don't know what you're talking about with regards to Snakeee. Oh, he won an upstate NY tournament the other day, btw. He's still playing and improving.

Don't nitpick at the Snakeee "issue" and actually work on strategy, otherwise you're not helping. If Snakeee isn't used, things can be adjusted.

Also, what part of "Meep might not be going at all and is taking a break" did you misunderstand?

Junebug is not a better choice than Snakeee. I'd sooner put myself, Cable, or someone else in. No offense to Junebug, but he is quite new and I don't know how well he can handle such pressure and top OOS players. NinjaLink loses too much randomly, so I'm unsure about him as well, and I'm pretty sure Tantalus agrees there.

I'd appreciate it if you stopped doubting my judgment so much. The only objections I'm seeing are from MD/VA players wanting to bump Fatal and Snakeee and put their own boys on the crew. MD/VA is weaker than tristate and still has 3 players on the team. Be happy with that. >_>;
 

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You don't know what you're talking about with regards to Snakeee. Oh, he won an upstate NY tournament the other day, btw. He's still playing and improving.

Don't nitpick at the Snakeee "issue" and actually work on strategy, otherwise you're not helping. If Snakeee isn't used, things can be adjusted.

Also, what part of "Meep might not be going at all and is taking a break" did you misunderstand?

Junebug is not a better choice than Snakeee. I'd sooner put myself, Cable, or someone else in. No offense to Junebug, but he is quite new and I don't know how well he can handle such pressure and top OOS players. NinjaLink loses too much randomly, so I'm unsure about him as well, and I'm pretty sure Tantalus agrees there.

I'd appreciate it if you stopped doubting my judgment so much. The only objections I'm seeing are from MD/VA players wanting to bump Fatal and Snakeee and put their own boys on the crew. MD/VA is weaker than tristate and still has 3 players on the team. Be happy with that. >_>;
There is no one in Upstate NY he should not be able to beat, that area isn't that strong.

I'm not nitpicking buddy, I'm saying there are better choices. Provided they don't show up then Snakeee is a fantastic pick.

June handles pressure just find, see his 7th OOS placing at Kosha to your... 17th was it? xP

I'm not doubting it but I am allowed to ask questions and such <.< But like I don't wanna sound like a tool so I'll just leave it up to the official crew to ask stuff haha
 

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If Snakeee is dropped by force because of MD/VA objections and Meep doesn't go, I might just put myself in. I would completely negate any Dededes, Olimars, and Toon Links, and the Snakes are on our team so I don't have to worry about them for once. I'm also great against Diddy Kong, Ice Climbers, and Falco.

June handles pressure just find, see his 7th OOS placing at Kosha to your... 17th was it? xP

I'm not doubting it but I am allowed to ask questions and such <.<
Regional crews at the largest Brawl tournament in history has a lot more pressure than a 64 person bracket at a regional tournament. Junebug would be on the the best team at a large event. I am apprehensive about using people newer to the community, which is why I didn't consider KoolAid at all.
 

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I know Candy is effing amazing against Dedede and that you're the best player on the team, but it's okay if most of the Snakes want to be benched. I wouldn't want that tension. If Seibrik and CO18 are playing well and take you to a good stage for them, it could be bad news and put a lot of pressure on you.

Vs South:
Ally (Snake)
Atomsk (Dedede)
ksizzle (Meta Knight)
NEO (Marth)
ADHD (Diddy Kong)
Anti (Meta Knight)
Candy (Snake)

Not using Fatal because of the Dededes and how much experience South has against Snake. Last spot goes to ChuDat (Kirby) or Snakeee (Zero Suit Samus). Which wildcard should be used? I think South is going to be the crew to beat. We're looking at Dojo, UltimateRazer, Gnes, Seibrik, CO18, Lee Martin, and Reflex all being in the same crew. That is crazy powerful and definitely rivals our team.


Vs Midwest:
Ally (Snake)
Atomsk (Ice Climbers or Meta Knight)
ksizzle (Meta Knight)
ADHD (Diddy Kong)
Anti (Meta Knight)
Candy (Snake)
Fatal (Snake)
Snakeee (Zero Suit Samus)

I'm certain they have no real ZSS experience. I don't want to use ChuDat since Kirby is not a mystery to them if YbM actually plays them and is good, and I'm scared of ChuDat vs Lain or Mew2King happening. I want all the Snakes in this one due to Mew2King, Lain, and Judge. And, because of those same three players, I want to avoid using NEO. I want to use Atomsk, but not his Dedede, because of the three players I mentioned and Anther. His Meta Knight or Ice Climbers will work out very well.


Vs International:
Atomsk (Dedede)
ksizzle (Meta Knight)
Snakeee (Zero Suit Samus)
ChuDat (Kirby)
Fatal (Snake)
ADHD (Diddy Kong
NEO (Marth)
Anti (Meta Knight)

I'm benching Ally for this one in order to let other players get a chance to shine. No problems there, right? I'm not really underestimating the International team, but I'm sure we'll win without Ally.


Vs West Coast:
Ally (Snake)
Atomsk (Dedede)
ksizzle (Lucario)
ChuDat (Kirby)
Anti (Meta Knight)
Candy (Snake)
Snakeee (Zero Suit Samus)
ADHD (Diddy Kong)

Fatal can take the bench on this one again. No offense meant towards him, but he's probably #9 or #10 on the team. I notice West Coast has match-up issues in their top players, so we can definitely use both Snakeee and ChuDat to take advantage of this and have ksizzle use his Lucario. West Coast might be using fillers since they will have the lowest amount of players there, but we can't sleep on them. I am apprehensive about using NEO because of how much Marth experience they have.
curious why you dont want to use me vs international :-/??
 

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curious why you dont want to use me vs international :-/??
I am using you in every other battle. I figured vs International is where I'll throw in Fatal, ChuDat, NEO, and Snakeee and have them clean house since they are the ones alternating in and out for the super important ones.
 

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yeah, its cool EE, other people deserve that spot more than me rite now. north EC is way too good haha.

by the way, why would ksizzle be going lucario only against WC?
 

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yeah, its cool EE, other people deserve that spot more than me rite now. north EC is way too good haha.

by the way, why would ksizzle be going lucario only against WC?
To take advantage of the fact that they don't have experience against high level Lucarios. They have a ton of high level Meta Knight experience, so ksizzle is likely to be better off with his Lucario in that one.
 

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If you really wanna beat west coast. They have absolutely no Sonic experience whats o ever. Take the best Sonic we have. Malcolm,Wes, etc...(I don't know our best one) Havok had no clue how to fight the Sonic X from Utah and lost a round. West coast has no Sonics at all.

I'm not joking Inui. I'm being very serious here.
 

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Tantalus and I are currently discussing strategies for starters and various things like that we don't want to post publicly. Members of the team are free to contact us to try and get information out of us if they want to.

We're going to raaaape. :)
 

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Hunger, you will not defeat us, esp not me, I was almost sleeping during our match, I think it gave you some sort of huge ego about Snakes or something. Don't be disappointed =.=
Rashed on, also ally will tell you guys I should be on this team after this weekend:)
 

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Hunger, you will not defeat us, esp not me, I was almost sleeping during our match, I think it gave you some sort of huge ego about Snakes or something. Don't be disappointed =.=
not talking against you ally. thats just my favorite matchup in the entire game =P i wish i had an ego. i just have fun =P

edit: and i only see crews as fun. dont really care who wins/beats who.
 

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Btw before MD/VA people come in hordes saying I'm horrible and should never be considered for this crew

Got Milk? said:
Inui's performance

Winners' bracket:
Bye
Defeated ebo
Defeated CloudFox
Lost to Atomsk

Losers' bracket:
Defeated Smurf
Defeated Bleachigo
Defeated Kai
Lost to Shadow

Overall placing: 4/39
DAPHNE 1 said:
Inui's performance

Winners' bracket:
Defeated Sasook
Defeated Cyber
Defeated Bizkit
Lost to Anti

Losers' bracket:
Defeated BlackWaltz
Defeated PatG
Defeated Dabuz

Lost to ADHD

Overall placing: 4/53
Daisho's said:
Inui's performance

Winners' bracket:
Bye
Defeated BSC
Defeated Zucco
Defeated Nairo

Lost to ksizzle

Losers' bracket:
Lost to Cable

Overall placing: 3/24
Ya'll know I **** in teams and that's definitely part of skill. When I care and have motivation and am not tired, I do very well in singles, and crews is definitely something I'd care immensely about.

I don't care if I'm not used, but I don't want people going crazy and hatin' on me for suggesting myself. I **** a lot of match-ups we will encounter, like MK dittos, Dedede, Olimar, and Diddy Kong. I also completely negate Toon Link in case Chip/Hyro/Quivo/Jerm get used. My only big problem is Snake and the top Snakes are on our team besides UltimateRazer.
 

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Pretty sure Shadow would beat Lain too. You know nothing of our(metaknights) power!
 

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Shadow always loses to Meep and Atomsk's ICs, so Idk about that. Shadow is really good, but he's too aggressive to win that match-up enough.
Ack, true. Shadow needs to slow down sometimes like during the match with Meep on JGs channel. He definitely could have won that but made silly mistakes.
 

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Patience is extremely important in regional crews because you're usually fighting players, and sometimes characters, you've never played against before.

It's why I don't want to use Shadow for crews and have a team of patient and campy players (besides Atomsk, but he's fine).
 

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yea i wouldnt send any mks against lain from our region. Most mks can fight ic well, but dont have the mentality to win when it counts (inui, shadow, nairo). If you were to put an mk in I would put hat, but only if i give him practice in that MU again. He is by far the best mk vs ic player (he actually fights and *****). He knows stuff that most mks dont know that wrecks ic. He learned all these tricks when i just played him in friendlies with no infinites.

Our best mks can easily win on a counterstage, but yea.
 

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I want to use a Snake against Lain, anyways. I'm sure they also realize this.

Meep, if you are not rusty and feel motivated and enter Pound 4...we will use you, and ChuDat will be the one to be dropped most likely.

However, things can change between now and Pound 4. We still have a month and a half to go, and new results can show who should and shouldn't be on.
 

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Inui

Stop saying you're going to drop this and that and the other, we're pretty much playing the waiting game

No need to discuss these things now
 
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Fatal can take the bench on this one again. No offense meant towards him, but he's probably #9 or #10 on the team. I notice West Coast has match-up issues in their top players, so we can definitely use both Snakeee and ChuDat to take advantage of this and have ksizzle use his Lucario. West Coast might be using fillers since they will have the lowest amount of players there, but we can't sleep on them. I am apprehensive about using NEO because of how much Marth experience they have.
You should rank your players according to ordinal utility rather than cardinal utility as a measure of their expected performance. In other words, rather than ranking players as best to worst on the team, treat them as relative equals and rank them by what they have to offer in a given situation.

That said, I think using NEO against WC is a remarkably safe move. They have so much Marth experience it might actually damage them, since Nathaniel is likely to have developed a fairly different mindset and style fostered by playing in a vastly different region and consequently opening them up to bad habits. The real place you want to avoid using Marth/Lucario and to a lesser extent Snake is in the South since it has 2 of the 3 best DDD players. We should be much more concerned with skewed counter matches rather than our skill base to avoid wasting needless stocks from opening ourselves up to poor counter picks.
 

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south looks like its going to be hard. my bro ***** ddd. oh and im gunna try and be here for this. just to watch unless i get really good. which i dont think i'll be used. i think we should use chu over snakee 100%
 

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Gonna go with Mow on this one, Neo is not a mike haze carbon copy, but again, we'll see who actually plays later on

Also inui, i have plan for the ice climbers, talk to me later
 
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