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Atlantic North *Pound* 4 Crew

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Max Ketchum

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My vote: The entire Atlantic North region should be one crew. This includes:
Maine
Vermont
New Hampshire
Massachusetts
Rhode Island
Connecticut
New York
New Jersey
Pennsylvania
Delaware
Maryland
Virginia

I vote yes on Ally being allowed for AN and no for Mew2King (I'm sorry Jason, it's more realistic for you to play for the Midwest, sort things out with AZ and make nice-nice).

I nominate Inui for tristate captain, if we're doing one captain from each division of Atlantic North. I'm undecided on New England and MD/VA, but the MD/VA captain vote from me will be either Tantalus or Omni. Tant has data, Omni has respect. I'd also include Plank as a candidate, but I don't think he cares enough about Brawl for the job.
 

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<3 omni, hes too smart

im voting for single crew

i mean, this is a REGIONAL crew battle right? regions vs regions? WC vs South vs MW vs EAST COAST

theres no point of splitting up, play by the rules and just play as a region




also, i do not want ally on the crew, idc how many tournies hes been to, hes canada, he has gone to many tournies will his little canadian headband

we DONT need him! we DONT need m2k, if we use them then all regions are just gonna john about how we needed them to win

lets just use our other players, **** them, and leave them with no excuses and are forced to admit defeat


:)


edit: AZ is right, i vote or Chu for captain. Yes he may not be the smartest guy around when it comes to already knowing what other regions can do, but he listens to everyone and accepts all advice needed. There will always be ppl that know the right thing to do, and if u tell chu he WILL listen garenteed. Plus you can tell from smash history that he doesnt lose crew's and has been here longer then most of us...CHU!
 

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Another reason to vouch for Ally's inclusion is that his region of residence does not have its own crew.

Candy, while I like your mentality, I don't think that preventing the johns of the rest of the country/world is a good enough reason to exclude him.
 

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Another reason to vouch for Ally's inclusion is that his region of residence does not have its own crew.

Candy, while I like your mentality, I don't think that preventing the johns of the rest of the country/world is a good enough reason to exclude him.
really? i thought it was a really good reason. I mean, its pretty obvious that everyone has mixed feelings about him being on the crew, I would think that the last thing we want is people thinking the one regional crew battle that happens is fluked b/c we took ally

if you really wanna show EC off, we should be able to show them with our true players that they are better than everyone else
 

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I see exactly where you're coming from and agree to some point, but would the Midwest do the same thing with Mew2King? I doubt it. Just because the place that he calls home is in New Jersey doesn't mean they'll limit themselves by excluding him, no matter how strong they think their region is.

Both ways are logical, though. It'll come down to a vote too, I suppose.
 

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**** MD/VA. I have no region. no really...
i agree with candy

i nominate myself as a captain for MD/VA. I started MD/VA rankings and I know my ****. In state and Out of State

edit: Regardless of peoples dislike for inui, he knows his **** and is a good tactician. He has my vote
 

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edit: Regardless of peoples dislike for inui, he knows his ****. He has my vote
I hope other people realize this so we can secure our victory. I will not be willing to provide my vast knowledge and good strategies if all of the credit goes to some other captain. That's not fair imo.

Didn't Ally even say he wants to play for EC, though?
Ally said ages ago he wants to play for Atlantic North.
 

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this is already more healthy discussion.

the current poll is to decide if we should stay single or split. after that, we can do a poll on who should be captains, ally/m2k shenenigans, etc. let's just take this one step at a time and we'll get through everything in less than a few days. that way we can have plenty of time to prepare for Pound 4

MD/VA and NY/NJ should be together: 2
(Doom, Candy)

MD/VA and NY/NJ should separate: 0
 

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Fear Inui's iron fist!


Inui's response: blah blah blah you're annoying.

Anyway.

Candy, what is a true player to you? Someone that actually lives in the region? Teh_Spamerer lives in New Jersey, and is most likely better than most people in Atlantic North, which would solidify a spot on the AN crew, but he hasn't entered an event since CoT4. Ally, on the other hand, makes the time and effort to come here (9 hour trip that costs about $150 round trip) every weekend to play in our region. Other regions johnning about him being in our region's crew is just a display of ignorance on their part. With the time and money he spends coming here, I'd say he deserves a spot on the Atlantic North crew.

By atlantic north crew, I mean it should be 1 crew aka not split, and that the captain should be someone people respect. Inui's smart and knows his ****, but everyone who has posted has objected to him being a captain. Maaaaybe if he worked on his personality things would be different, but until then people who see wrong in his doings (like myself) will most likely ridicule his attitude (not his skill/knowledge).
 

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I will vote for us...to stay together, I guess. MD/VA's regional pride/bias really bothers me a lot, but if MD/VA has people like Tantalus and Slik calling the shots for their side, it's fine.
 

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While I agree with what Yes! says about Inui's attitude detracting from people's will to listen to him...we don't need a therapist. However personable, popular, or loved he is as a person is irrelevant when we're talking captains. We need someone who will make sound and smart decisions. While people outside of NJ may be hesitant to believe this, Inui does really listen to the input of others, and his opinion IS swayable. He can be counted on to make the right decision when it counts.

Also, if there is one captain from each region, then if Inui makes some decision the other two find ridiculous, it can be overturned.
 

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inui shuttup, everytime you write "MD/VA's regional pride/bias blah blah blah" i feel like slapping you. Really, its mad anoying and your accomplishing nothing by doing so.

and after reading Yes' argument, i thnk hes write and do think ally should be able to play for us.


touche' sir, touche'

doom: i dissagreee. i do think that a captian is someone who everyone feels comfortable with. The knowledge isnt a big part of being captian. Inui does not have to be captain to put input in. Anyone with knowledge doesnt have to be captian to put in their input. A captain doesnt have to do special or isnt the reason a crew wins or loses. Our skill will win. Its not like we are all idiots. in 99% of the cases it should be obvious what our next move is and together we have enoough knowledge to steer ouselves.

Which brings me back to why i think Chu should be captian. Hes someone that everyone is comfortable with to discuss strategies and tactics...and hes someone we know for a FACT that he will listen to everyone
 

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inui shuttup, everytime you write "MD/VA's regional pride/bias blah blah blah" i feel like slapping you. Really, its mad anoying and your accomplishing nothing by doing so.
What I am saying is true. MD/VA has a long history of being extremely prideful, which is the main cause of the almost-split in the first place. MD/VA also thinks their players >>> everyone else's. Like, you guys all think I'm horrible and would be like unranked in your region even though I own ya'll in doubles and beat P~S all the time when he wins your tournaments and can fight all of you just fine.
 

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I will not be willing to provide my vast knowledge and good strategies if all of the credit goes to some other captain. That's not fair imo.
This is sad. You are in it for personal gain not regional pride if this is truly the case.

More often then not, the best leaders are not the most knowledgeable people, but instead the people who are most capable of listening to many knowledgeable people and then making an informed decision. It is easier to remove yourself from bias when you aren't attempting to advocate your own choice.
 

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Current Poll Results:
MD/VA and NY/NJ should be together: 5
(Doom, Candy, Yes!, Inui, Slikvik)

MD/VA and NY/NJ should separate: 0


Candy (everyone): Just don't respond to Inui. If you/we ignore him, maybe he'll reflect.

After this poll is done, we'll move on to Captains and the issue with M2K and Ally. I promise that a majority decision will be reached on each of these justifiable views that can go either way. Everyone just tell everyone to come here and vote so we can make this go faster.
 

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This is sad. You are in it for personal gain not regional pride if this is truly the case.
I'm in it for many reasons. What you pointed out is indeed one of them. I'm not going to lie. I also want my region to win and I have pride in it. A lot of my friends are on the crew, namely Atomsk.

I don't think it's fair if I provide a lot of information and come up with amazing strategies but get 0 recognition for it since I'm not playing on the crew and wouldn't be captain in that scenario.
 

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**** MD/VA. I have no region. no really...
I was previously for the the split but I realized my region won't agree on anything. My vote is for Atlantic North to stay together. However not necessarily with Ally. I'm sure he can understand why we'd want to win without him. Regional Crew Battles are strictly for bragging rights. Dominating with Ally on the team allows other regions to try and take away the significance of a victory.
 

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What I am saying is true. MD/VA has a long history of being extremely prideful, which is the main cause of the almost-split in the first place. MD/VA also thinks their players >>> everyone else's. Like, you guys all think I'm horrible and would be like unranked in your region even though I own ya'll in doubles and beat P~S all the time when he wins your tournaments and can fight all of you just fine.
No. Most of md/va wanted to split b/c they dislike you. Because you always think your right. B/c you judge everyone when you are in NO position to judge. Thats why ppl wanted to split.

who we think we can beat has nothing to do with anything.

you winning doubles means absolutely **** in this arugment.

you've beatin PS only once in his prime when he had a glitch happen to him. Even with that, beating oli with mk is nothing special. You havent beating any of our top ranked players (besides the 1 fluke with PS) in so long. People will agree with me, not just in md/va, but from every region, that you have not done anything to consider yourself a top
player


edit: just saw omni's post. Not responding to anymore inui post for the day
 

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No. Most of md/va wanted to split b/c they dislike you. Because you always think your right. B/c you judge everyone when you are in NO position to judge. Thats why ppl wanted to split.

who we think we can beat has nothing to do with anything.

you winning doubles means absolutely **** in this arugment.

you've beatin PS only once in his prime when he had a glitch happen to him. Even with that, beating oli with mk is nothing special. You havent beating any of our top ranked players (besides the 1 fluke with PS) in so long. People will agree with me, not just in md/va, but from every region, that you have not done anything to consider yourself a top player
Thank you for completely proving me right.
 

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As much money, time and effort Ally puts into coming to the East Coast these past 3 or 4 months to play I think its a slap in the face to deny him a spot on our team, he's got my support to play.

Also, I vote MD/VA and NY/NJ should be together~

I'll be taking over the captain position, the rest of you niglets fall in line.
 

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Current Poll Results:
MD/VA and NY/NJ should be together: 5
(Doom, Candy, Yes!, Inui, SlikVik)

MD/VA and NY/NJ should separate: 2
(Atomsk, Omni)


I'm also for the split. Too much tension between MD/VA and NY/NJ. Esoj also made a point that it makes sense for other regions to come together because they're coming out of state to come over to East Coast so it may be difficult to gather a lot of people from a small region. East Coast is obviously saturated with talented players making two teams a definite viable option.
 

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MD/VA and NY/NJ should be together: 5
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MD/VA and NY/NJ should separate: 2
(Atomsk, Omni)
Hey, are you blind, I(Phil) vote we should stay together too.
 

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You all realize this is a free crew battle right? As in, for regional pride and no money. As in, everyone stfu and get along.

Lucas, if you cause that much distraught to this then maybe you should just step down. You have too much going on in your life to even care about this right now, imo.
 

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Current Poll Results (now in Omni Green):
MD/VA and NY/NJ should be together: 5
(Doom, Candy, Yes!, KageMurphy, SlikVik)

MD/VA and NY/NJ should separate: 3
(Atomsk, Omni, Inui)

Message people on AIM and tell them to hurry up and vote.
 

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They should separate. Being together is just too one sided and the winner would be obvious so splitting will add some fun to it.
 

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I vote that we stick together. If we want to pool all of the best talent possible into one crew, it should incorporate the entirety of Atlantic North. It may be true that there is more than enough skill to go around in this region for multiple crews, but for the best and strongest crew- it's a no brainer for us to cooperate.

And also, as one-sided as many may think a conjoined Atlantic North crew would be, to not throw our best players at them to prove how good we really are would, in fact, be arrogant.

Edit- This is Will btw. Hi Omni, don't believe we've met.
 

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Current Poll Results (now in Omni Green):
MD/VA and NY/NJ should be together: 8
(Doom, Candy, Yes!, KageMurphy, SlikVik, jjvirus, Anti, Will)

MD/VA and NY/NJ should separate: 4
(Atomsk, Omni, Inui, Kaiber Kop)

I'll start rewarding you guys for being awesome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvVZegDnbJU

Edit: @Will: I'll see ya' pound, guy. I've had a good dose of your DK watching a few vids. Very smexy.
 
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steve, your solution had better be a **** good one or I'm coming after your ***. I don't take regional pride lightly.
 

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You're all idiots

I have the solution, since no one knows how to make a concrete decision around here.

Atlantic north does not split- meaning candy neo etc. Can play for atl north

Meanwhile, chu creates a separate mdva team that is people who aren't on the atl north team. This allows us to have the best of both worlds. Pride and dominance.

So while we destroy as the atl north crew, the md/va crew will be whosever left and will clean house on the rest of the regions

This was mows idea before mine btw
 

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tbh i think ny nj will win this on our own. i mean screww mdva they have good ppl but we can so do this wit out them. we are honestly the better crew and there just starting drama. iklon
 

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If this is really causing this much drama, I'd much rather lose without MD/VA then win along side them.

I still love you guys though, but JUST ****ING IGNORE INUI. I DO IT EASILY.
 
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