Ask NickRiddle how to be amazing.

[Rubberbandman]

Just space better and don't get shield grabbed.

*Looks at my character icon*

....Yeah....

 

[Zero]

Ice Climbers can't shieldgrab ZSS from the air.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

If you somehow dash at a diddy with a banana in hand, you're basicly ****ed already. Rolls can be punished on reaction, and attacks will be punished. If I dash at a diddy or peach or if I somehow manage to get in a situation where my attack gets punished on shield, I footstool their shield. It really works lol

 

[Rubberbandman]

Ice Climbers can't shieldgrab ZSS from the air.

The point was you're saying something an IC would say about Cgs. Guess I wasn't being clear enough.

 

[Snakeee]

Speaking of items, I thought I'd mention how amazing d-smash is when an armor piece or banana is within that range in front of you. Not only does it help take care of the problem that dash attack-grabbing it is sooooo obvious and leaves you super vulnerable, but the opponent will go for the item themselves quite a bit and just get hit by the d-smash. Any time you're actually able to land that move, it is a godsend. And if the item in question is a banana, you can obviously pull of bigger combos. Better yet, you can get a free nana lock them which is something I plan on working on and I think I have a much easier set up for now .

Nick, I wanted to ask what you think of the ZSS vs MK match up as of now? I'm honestly feeling pretty helpless IF the MK knows how to REALLY fight ZSS correctly. No matter what I do and even if I feel like I'm on top of my game, it feels ridiculously uphill now -_-

 

[Rubberbandman]

Learning single naner lock Frank? ;D I'd love you if you did.

I think MK mu is all opponent dependent in the first place. If they don't know anything they cant do anything threatening to you.

 

[NickRiddle]

Nick, I wanted to ask what you think of the ZSS vs MK match up as of now? I'm honestly feeling pretty helpless IF the MK knows how to REALLY fight ZSS correctly. No matter what I do and even if I feel like I'm on top of my game, it feels ridiculously uphill now -_-

Well, right now, Seibrik is finally fully exploiting my lack of a grab, with simple things, and I'm working on getting around it. I still think ZSS can win it, and that it's a close MU. I can talk more in-depth after more practice sessions this week. (If it gets worse or better.)

 

[Snakeee]

Well, right now, Seibrik is finally fully exploiting my lack of a grab, with simple things, and I'm working on getting around it. I still think ZSS can win it, and that it's a close MU. I can talk more in-depth after more practice sessions this week. (If it gets worse or better.)

Idunno man, but I'm glad you're still optimistic about it at least...I'm getting good at the MK ditto but....I'd rather not have to you know? -_-

 

[NickRiddle]

Idunno man, but I'm glad you're still optimistic about it at least...I'm getting good at the MK ditto but....I'd rather not have to you know? -_-

Only optimistic because even though he was doing things I didn't know how to get around, I usually took it to last hit.
I still won a few matches while we were playing, he was just getting stupid free damage.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

We believe in you, Nicky~

 

[Snakeee]

Yeah, I want us to bring this character to her full potential or very close to it, at Dallas. You have a much better chance than me since you have a much higher seed...are you in the bracket already I forget? They're making it ridiculously hard for someone unseeded in this thing ugh.

I wanna try and watch vids since I never ever do that, but your vids honestly don't seem to be your best work, and I think you mentioned that yourself. I could review my own vids if my freaking region recorded anything ever lol.
If you happen to have nothing to do tomorrow I'd be up for some kinda Skype session to discuss strats...I think it'd be SUPER beneficial if we could co-review and critique a couple vids even though we have like nothing to work with lol. This would be similar to how I train in poker, and I'll brag as an incentive for how effective it is so I'll mention I'm up well over $15K within a month :D

 

[NickRiddle]

I'm in the bracket already, yes.
Yeah, my vids normally aren't be at my best...
Unless the vid of me vs. ESAM WF last tournament, match 5, I think was played really well.


Skype session would work. I'm free any night really, so set something up, and I can be there~

 

[Snakeee]

I'm in the bracket already, yes.
Yeah, my vids normally aren't be at my best...
Unless the vid of me vs. ESAM WF last tournament, match 5, I think was played really well.


Skype session would work. I'm free any night really, so set something up, and I can be there~

I probably haven't seen that if it's really recent, so I'll def check it out .

Ok, tomorrow's good then. I'd prefer 4 or 5, but if that's too early it can be any time after that. The evening is when the good poker tourneys are running so I'd rather not miss them if I can help it.

 

[NickRiddle]

4-5 works for me.

 

[MdrnDayMercutio]

When Nick/Dazwa/Snakeee get together, ZSS will rule the world.

 

[NickRiddle]

I probably haven't seen that if it's really recent, so I'll def check it out .

Ok, tomorrow's good then. I'd prefer 4 or 5, but if that's too early it can be any time after that. The evening is when the good poker tourneys are running so I'd rather not miss them if I can help it.

Also, I'm not actually sure if the vid was recorded...
I'll post it in the video thread if/when it is.

 

[gallax]

Riddle, how can i beat you?

 

[NickRiddle]

Riddle, how can i beat you?

Very carefully.

 

[gallax]

Lets say we play again in tourney, which is bound to happen. If i play very carefully, what should i watch out for when playing you?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

dont get hit

 

[Zero]

hit him with your attacks

 

[gallax]

If i promise only to use dtilt instead of ftilt(snake) would u promise only to use fsmash instead of sideb? Lets make a deal

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

You don't know what you're getting yourself into.

FSMASH OWN ZONE

 

[Nefarious B]

Record the skype sesh

 

[Zero]

zss podcasts wew

 

[Sensei Seibrik]

zss has a pretty big dsmash

 

[NickRiddle]

Lets say we play again in tourney, which is bound to happen. If i play very carefully, what should i watch out for when playing you?

As Marth: Just always try to poke, that's really it.
Sometimes, when it makes little sense but you feel you can get away with it, go for a grab. It keeps me guessing. Also, up-b when you think it'll work.
Stuff like that is why Haze is so good at Marth. He keeps you guessing, and "gets inside your head."

As Snake: All your moves are unsafe. You basically camp the entire match, and punish what I do. Dash-attack ***** like... all of ZSS's laggy moves.
U-tilt at 100.
Yup.

 

[VSC.D-Torr]

I wish I could help you with the MU, Gallax.

Sorry for living 90 minutes away from you.

 

[Zero]

zss has a pretty big dsmash

If you know what i mean herherher

 

[LoliLovesRain]

If you know what i mean herherher

I hate you cuz that made me laugh >_>

 

[Rubberbandman]

If you know what i mean herherher

I was going to say that, joke-stealer.

 

[Snakeee]

Nick if you're around i can do it now....tbh havent used skype before though idunno what im doing but i have some sort of mic lol

Alright I'm pretty sure I'm all set, and I even found this $300 headset my mom used to have for work :D

EDIT: if you're not around soon i might not be able to do it today . It's all good though.
double edit: actually i could probably do it later lol

 

[culexus・wau]

Have you done your buffered Upairs out of shield today?

but no really I think I'm the only one able to do it w/out much practice ._.

 

[NickRiddle]

Nick if you're around i can do it now....tbh havent used skype before though idunno what im doing but i have some sort of mic lol

Alright I'm pretty sure I'm all set, and I even found this $300 headset my mom used to have for work :D

EDIT: if you're not around soon i might not be able to do it today . It's all good though.
double edit: actually i could probably do it later lol

Err... what's your skype name thing?

 

[Mikachiru]

So Nick... How do you become amazing? :D

 

[Rubberbandman]

Down smash for everything.

D-Smash to punish, D-smash to approach, D-smash Combo, D-smash to follow up.

 

[NickRiddle]

So Nick... How do you become amazing? :D

Eat your vegatables.

Down-smash.

Watch more anime.

 

[Snakeee]

Have you done your buffered Upairs out of shield today?

but no really I think I'm the only one able to do it w/out much practice ._.

I do them pretty well I'd say, but I don't think I'm actually buffering them. What was that easy way to do it again that you posted last time?

...also You're reallyyyy attractive! :D

 

[culexus・wau]

I do them pretty well I'd say, but I don't think I'm actually buffering them. What was that easy way to do it again that you posted last time?

...also You're reallyyyy attractive! :D

Performing:

Hold Up on the control stick lightly. too little results in nair, too much upsmash.
input jump + attack, you can't C-stick this or you'll get upsmash.

How I do SH Uair out of shield:
Put the tip of your thumb on Y and the base of it on A. flick it across Y and A.

YES IT HITS METAKNIGHT

**** IT MAY BE IMPRACTICAL DUE TO SPACING ISSUES.

Other Fun Facts about buffered Uair:

You can B.Uair -> Nair [1st hit]

You can Buffer SH Uair into a footstool for a techchase, at higher %s [60+] you can B.FH Uair into footstool, but they can airdodge, however you can react afterwards so its all good.

You can tell if you're doing it right if you can hit

Group B - Can be hit by SH Uair only.

Ness
Lucas
Diddy
Toon Link
Ivysaur

Group C - Can be hit by SH Uair only with precise spacing on the tip of her foot. may or may not be unreliable.

Kirby
G&W
Olimar - moderate difficulty
Jigglypuff
Ice Climbers - moderate difficulty
METAKNIGHT - difficult
Squirtle

Group E - these characters can be hit by SH buffered uair from behind.

Snake
Marth
Ike
Falco
Captain Falcon
King Dedede
ROB
Pit
Samus
Zero Suit Samus
Link
Zelda [but not sheik]
Ganondorf
Yoshi [you have to hit his head with the heel, if he has his back towards you it whiffs]
DK [Same thing as yoshi, if he has his back to you it whiffs]
Bowser

these guys.

Go read the full thread for moar data.

supeeeer useful. I have replays of doing it on MK if you wanna see. [apparently its reallly really hard. which it is.]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=289417

....and thank you <3

 

[Snakeee]

Woah....I love you