Yeah I'll have none of that.
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Ask Hax$ Melee Falcon Questions: falcon... he's ****ing bad
- Thread starter Hax
- Start date
jona gg's at mogwai's LOL
bigd idk dthrow chaingrab never fails; even if they DI away don't they have to hit the ground?
anyway against sheik i'd say when she's above you just spam uair. she has nothing that hits below so its ****
bigd idk dthrow chaingrab never fails; even if they DI away don't they have to hit the ground?
anyway against sheik i'd say when she's above you just spam uair. she has nothing that hits below so its ****
DrewB008
Smash Lord
yeah they gotta hit the ground, but then thats not a cg haha
BrandonOwnageking
Smash Journeyman
oi hax how do u stop cfs jabs after 3, someone said u do it by pressing z a while back and thats what ive been doing but never is consistent.
CanISmash
Smash Lord
^ if you are gonna hold the 3rd a then you dont have to time it at all. just press a 3 times at whatever speed you wish, hold it, then do an action (dash, dd, roll, etc)
first two jabs gotta hit tho.
first two jabs gotta hit tho.
i noticed you would either knee>grab if i didnt tech or uair me on the floor to scoop me up into a grab again
what do u think about when your tech chasing?
i know ur not guessing cuz u just cant be
are you just trying to cover 2 out of 3 possible techs?
its mad weird how good you were at tech chasing
what do u think about when your tech chasing?
i know ur not guessing cuz u just cant be
are you just trying to cover 2 out of 3 possible techs?
its mad weird how good you were at tech chasing
The Irish Mafia
Banned via Administration
I hear that shielding after the 3rd jab makes it a tad easier
DrewB008
Smash Lord
shielding only helps if youre holding z
hold z til you see the light shield, then jump out
hold z til you see the light shield, then jump out
Tomacawk
Smash Master
the more you play the faster you learn how people tech...and you learn what people are likely to do in certain situations...you're probably jut teching predictiably
im probably one of the most creative techchasers when i'm on fire lol. yeah i love uair because they see i've empty shorthopped towards where they're landing and i haven't charged a dair and they're like what could he possibly hit me with? so i uair right when you tech and regrab.
side-b is the best move in the game for techchasing
EDIT: i don't guess at all.
its 100% prediction and learning habits from over the years. the 2 ways to techchase are prediction and reaction (works with grabs; i do it sometimes). guessing will get you nowhere
side-b is the best move in the game for techchasing
EDIT: i don't guess at all.
its 100% prediction and learning habits from over the years. the 2 ways to techchase are prediction and reaction (works with grabs; i do it sometimes). guessing will get you nowhere
DrewB008
Smash Lord
prediction is guessing hax
Tomacawk
Smash Master
lol I predict but I call it guessing because I'm not a great falcon (YET!)
I can't go off reaction because if they tech straight up I never get it in time and they spotdodge around my grab or i get shined or jabbed or gay ****
and shorthop->late uair is really pimp
can't be shield grabbed like that and nobody expects it
I can't go off reaction because if they tech straight up I never get it in time and they spotdodge around my grab or i get shined or jabbed or gay ****
and shorthop->late uair is really pimp
can't be shield grabbed like that and nobody expects it
PolMex23
Smash Champion
lol
Dont be a smart *** you knew what he meant, an yet i would argue that how he said "prediction" was correct id rather just say...
Its as if u see the game, or your opponent, with a "future ghost" like the ghosts that aid you during time trials in racing games.
Sometimes you just know where they are going, due to you putting them into a situation where their options are few to none or your just deep within your opponents mind...all stuff you all know...i just love saying it, makes me feel good
I ****ing love this game and Captain Falcon
DrewB008
Smash Lord
yeah i know what you mean, about just knowing where theyre gonna go, i've felt that feeling, but i've also felt it and been wrong
there are 2 ways to tech chase in this game, you can wait and react and know for sure where theyre going, or you can predict/guess and you dont know for sure. nothing changes the fact that you are acting without confirmation that youre correct
i played hax at revival of melee, and right off the bad he dthrew me and shffled a stomp as i teched in place. thats a complete guess no matter which way you slice it
then i threw the match away, but then got ***** second match anyway
hax is too good
there are 2 ways to tech chase in this game, you can wait and react and know for sure where theyre going, or you can predict/guess and you dont know for sure. nothing changes the fact that you are acting without confirmation that youre correct
i played hax at revival of melee, and right off the bad he dthrew me and shffled a stomp as i teched in place. thats a complete guess no matter which way you slice it
then i threw the match away, but then got ***** second match anyway
hax is too good
ooooooim probably one of the most creative techchasers when i'm on fire lol. yeah i love uair because they see i've empty shorthopped towards where they're landing and i haven't charged a dair and they're like what could he possibly hit me with? so i uair right when you tech and regrab.
side-b is the best move in the game for techchasing
EDIT: i don't guess at all.
i was thinking it might be from learning peoples habits.. you have been since 06 right?
but yea son too good at tech chasing
i wanna play u again soon
....reacting, guessing and predicting...
The Irish Mafia
Banned via Administration
How fast does uair come out?
cykofox
Smash Ace
6 frames of startup iirc.
PolMex23
Smash Champion
beats out alot of things should be used aloooott
You know when isai isnt sandbagging when he is using uairs
The Irish Mafia
Banned via Administration
One of the thing's I do is short hop, then fastfall, and at the last second uair, and then grab or get an aerial combo.
Mokumo
Smash Ace
What's the difference between a guess and a prediction?
A prediction is sort of an...educated guess. But this is much better than just guessing. you can predict based on patterns and punish them alot harder.
sry, predicting and guessing are the same. predicting is just guessing better, it's not a separate way of doing it.
ALTERNATE ENDING!
sry, guessing and predicting are the same. guessing is just predicting poorly, it's not a separate way of doing it.
ALTERNATE ENDING!
sry, guessing and predicting are the same. guessing is just predicting poorly, it's not a separate way of doing it.
thumbswayup
Smash Master
I think a lot of times Hax and other great C Falcon mains KNOW where you are teching rather than predicting. I've been on some streaks like that before and it comes down to making the opponent go where you want them to go. Crazy *** mindgames are required.
thumbswayup
Smash Master
LOL you wish. Get jv four stocked by me some more 
DrewB008
Smash Lord
you guys dont understand
no matter how much thought you put into it, you either literally know (reacting), or you literally dont know (predicting/guessing)
just cause all signs point to a certain tech doesnt mean its already happened
no matter how much thought you put into it, you either literally know (reacting), or you literally dont know (predicting/guessing)
just cause all signs point to a certain tech doesnt mean its already happened
Mokumo
Smash Ace
this pretty much sums up the last two pages of this thread.
I was at a fighting game night at a videogame store last night and there were some good melee players there (kdj, anybody?). having read this thread beforehand, i tried to expand my tech chasing game. I think there's a little more to it than "predicting" and "reacting". Think about it, when the average smasher on the ground (in smash brothers, not in real life) and your opponent is running straight at you from the other side of the stage, the average smasher often decides to roll passed you. if you're standing right in front of somebody while they're on the ground, they will want to do their getup attack. For some people, not as much at higher levels because there are a ton of mindgames involved in everything, it's just common sense. Good players can abuse that common sense and essentially manipulate their opponent. Sometimes i just feel like i can do something that will force my opponent to roll/tech in a certain direction, and i think that belongs in its own category
falcon just has a ton of options for everything. i hope i made at least a little sense in this post
PolMex23
Smash Champion
"manipulation of your opponent"
Reaction, prediction, Manipulation
Reaction, prediction, Manipulation
The Irish Mafia
Banned via Administration
Cool story, but I didn't know people actually went to the GU game night. Me and questor went and no one was there.
We have to play more, I need to improve my falcon.
Mokumo
Smash Ace
yha mon wee should play sometimee.
i dont know about what i said earlier... i think "mindgames" is a better way of saying it instead of manipulation. i dunno tho im just a noob