Q&A Ask about Pikachu! Hosted by Axe and N64! feat. dkuo!

[Cia]

that was a really entertaining set.

very nice Axe =)

 

[toasty]

yeah I loved that set...good stuff making up for choking occasionally [but who doesn't, right? especially against SS]

 

[Smasher89]

Any more matches of Axe vs CFplayers on FD?

 

[Bamesy]

lol

Don't hype Flaco here. It's too easy.

Axe with Pika though......... OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH o.O

 

[AXE 09]

Haha thanks guys! =D

Here's some more Pika stuff in Winners/Grand finals if you wanna see more =)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXzsNMVBFCQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5tH2M4zvjI

This was my first time fighting a high level Doc player. I seriously thought I was gonna get destroyed lol. But it actually didn't turn out that bad.

 

[Radiowar]

congrats on the win axe, very entertaining matches. too bad you didnt face hugs at some point, that was one of the matches i was hoping to see.

i have a question about the quick attack here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SadpTlH9DV0&t=00m42s

when you get edgehogged like that, do you quick attack away on reaction or can you buffer it somehow?

 

[indigestible_wad]

It's a reaction. Once you get a handle on recovering you should be able to tell when someone is going to edgehog you and when they'll stay on the stage and do something else.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

I think it'd be best to 2nd up-B if you're worried about it.

axe side-B edge gaurd was my thing : P

 

[toasty]

axe side-B edge gaurd was my thing : P

ORLY?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adGKMOAY8os#t=2m22s

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

falco uses side-B I use side-B it's funny the move lasts longer than it should and beats nearly everything not disjointed which doesn't make sence if you look at the hit box

 

[Grinin]

My friend is a new pika play, im a ganon and hes having trouble not getting 4 stocked.... and general tips... for pika also trying to start to get him to L-cancel

 

[indigestible_wad]

Tell him to camp more or at least play more defensively. Pikachu should not be trading hits with ganon for obvious reasons. I mean the point is not to get hit against ganon in the first place is it not?

 

[Mogwai]

I think this is relevant to this thread's interests

 

[Bamesy]

aren't you supposed to remove stuff like spam?
lol
posting it is pretty much the same thing though...

 

[indigestible_wad]

Is that supposed to be a take on "pikachu is ********?" It's nice to know that people think he's annoying enough. *sniff* He's moving up in the world.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

Fighting pikachu is mad fun. Well at at least for pichu. any form of wall is fun to fight as pichu other than maybe extreme projectile walls.

 

[Smasher89]

Do Pika have any screaming weaknesses against shiek (in PAL, so no chainthrow), like guarantied techase or something against him?
Otherwise I´ll probably go pika against shieks in a few stages (YS for example), making more fun matches and probably easier too lol.

 

[Bamesy]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
no CG sounds sooooooooooooooo gooooooooooooooooood

 

[N64]

I don't know of all the PAL changes to sheik, but she should still cleanly beat pikachu. Her tilts put a lot of pressure on him, needles can slow you down and set up grabs, and while it doesn't sound like grabs are as painful, she can still probably get at least a techchase out of it (or force you to jump where she can try to follow up with dash fair or something). The matchup is bad even without chainthrow, even without dthrow (though it probably gets considerably better without either of those).

 

[Mogwai]

Pikachu's tech is slow and short, I imagine he'd still get ***** by just the tech chase.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

don't tech, jump only reason why his(pika) tech chase works on most people.

No nearly everyone grab ***** pikachu sheik's needles and tilts and forced approach f*** him up the most and the fact sheik won't play your DD game. However mix-ups are where it's at trick sheik into thinking you're going to use nair, 2nd jump jolt and DD d-tilt is nice. harder than marth because sheik feels safer/more pressureing less laughing at them for attacking a sheild.

but overall you combo **** sheik harder worse when hit I think.

 

[Incronaut]

soooo uhhh... new pika main here! just wanted to say hi

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

Why do you spam our boards : ( what do want from us a cookie or something I can't take it anymore hi there : D

 

[Incronaut]

Why do you spam our boards : ( what do want from us a cookie or something I can't take it anymore hi there : D

oops i just wanted to be a part of the pika community and i wasnt sure if anyone read the other thread =.= i wont spam anymore sorry

on another note moonwalking with pika is hard (actual moonwalk, not u-turning) but i suck at moonwalking

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

Pikachu is only trying to mold your hands for battle unlike those soft soft puff hands.

 

[Smasher89]

I suspected that the tech could be a problem, I guess I´ll have to check % when it´s possible to jump out of that :/

So the tilts outprioritices pikas (I guess by range), but the fsmash still outprioritices her tilts right?

About the DJ to thunderjolt, I understand that it works, but what am I making the shiekplayer think and react to try to do(shield nair?)?

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

pikachu has decent sheild pressure nair through to upairs/poivt grab and I know pichu can duck under sheik's bairs maybe pikachu can too. But if sheik trys to f-tilt sheik will get hit by a jolt if sheik sheilds you aren't punished and you can decently mess with sheik's sheid also DD d-tilt is good too.

pity pikachu's up-B isn't as useful as pichu's esle he may be able to double fake out sheik 2nd to up-B spot-dodge : P.


but most people don't know when to jump out the best way to find out is to start tech chasing level 9s

F-smash can't clank and beats needles so yeah unless sheik can outrange it nothing beats it.

 

[Smasher89]

The upair seems too good after learning how to read jumps as ICs XD

 

[Dre the Ace]

What are Pika's best options from the edge? I try Fairing people, but it usually gets shielded or there isn't enough hit stun for anything to follow up, which usually leads to me being grabbed.

 

[Smasher89]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8odZRm-LCw
2.50

I guess the opponent won´t go into that upair situation too often though XD


EDIT:

About the hitbox at 2.55 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWAEr5fsXCc
Which part is the one sending down forward?

 

[ChivalRuse]

This is pretty cool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qdDXaK0CdU

 

[indigestible_wad]

The hitbox changes over time, not in different areas of the body. So if it sends the opponent forward, the tail will be near the end of its rotation, so when the tail is right above him to about an eighth of a rotation in front is where that would happen.

 

[Bamesy]

You can link youtube times with a simple code

After the full link, type this

#t=

Then the number of the minute (2 for 2 minutes)
and m
Then the number of the second (55 for that)
and s

#t=2m55s


Just say #t= over and over a few times. Then you'll probably remember, the rest is a given

NUMBER TEE EQUALS
NUMBER TEE EQUALS
NUMBER TEE (TEE IS A NUMBER?) EQUALS (EQUALS WHAT?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWAEr5fsXCc#t=2m55s


It's pretty handy, hope that helped. lol


PS: Just test out Uair spiking CPU Foxes or something over and over, then Falcons, etc.

I just got it naturally through playing people and being really mean. LOL

My Uair game is the only reason I win.

 

[Incronaut]

can someone give me tips or something to moonwalking with pikachu.. i cant seem to get it down.. i can do it with falcon O_O

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Haha thanks guys! =D

Here's some more Pika stuff in Winners/Grand finals if you wanna see more =)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXzsNMVBFCQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5tH2M4zvjI

This was my first time fighting a high level Doc player. I seriously thought I was gonna get destroyed lol. But it actually didn't turn out that bad.

didnt yu play boss?

 

[toasty]

didnt yu play boss?

and got BEAT son!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbP6b4R2E6E

*VA Flex*


<3 Axe ^_^

 

[AXE 09]

Oh shoot, you're right. Wow my memory sux lol.

We actually went 1-1 on Doc vs Pikachu. Both of those matches went to the last stock.

 

[Incronaut]

what part of the tail spike makes it spike? i didnt really understand the frame-by-frame thing, is it when that red part is facing the trajectory i want my opponent to go?

is there like a more practical way of knowing which part of the tail spike is going to make it spike? i always send them upwards...

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

each frame sends them a different way really the lower part sends them down.

 

[toasty]

Oh shoot, you're right. Wow my memory sux lol.

We actually went 1-1 on Doc vs Pikachu. Both of those matches went to the last stock.

haha I know, that was such a good set! watching your Pound matches in person was @_@

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