Ask a quick question, get a quick answer (The Marth FAQ's)

[ChibixD]

I do down + A +X... Clawling is better?

 

[mikeHAZE]

Yes. you won't get the neccisarry frames or momentum if you do it with A.

example: you're running to spike. you have to press DOWN + X/Y + A to do the release. you're not getting ALL the possible forward momentum.

If you Claw: You run, you press X/Y + down on the cstick while STILL having your forward momentum.

i actually don't think it works with A, but i could be wrong. Havok couldn't do it consistently, then i showed him how to claw it and he can do it everytime

 

[ChibixD]

I will practice this ...
Do you use crawling for another specific situation?

 

[mikeHAZE]

i use it a lot to buffer aerials

 

[clowsui]

@Mike it's possible to do it with sliding from Y to A but you're right, you lose forward momentum from doing it

A good way to do it without clawing is to set R to jump or the useless shield button (unless you use both R and L to shield, lol) and just R -> dair

Why do you think the Diddy matchup is so bad for Marth?

 

[mikeHAZE]

or just claw it lol

 

[clowsui]

clawing's not intuitive for everyone? lol i mean i can claw it but i know ppl who change R to jump to solve that problem. different strokes for different folks

 

[mikeHAZE]

yeah you're right. call me oldschool, i just find control schemes to be extremely silly

 

[Enzo]

yeah you're right. call me oldschool, i just find control schemes to be extremely silly

THis post is just toooooo good

 

[condemned_soul]

can you cancel you B move? if so how?

 

[Mr-R]

mr r, do you claw the gr dair?

I dont, i used to but somehow that made it more inconsistent lol

 

[Rad]

What do I do against DK's recovery? What are the moves I should be using against his UpB?

Thanks.

 

[toki]

I'd use counter <3

Q.
Whats "DS" and i dont really get how to do it, i know its a fast edgehogging trick but i just dont know how to perform it

 

[Reizilla]

DK's recovery is really easy to spike, if they're not careful. Bair works really well, so does counter.

DS is just Dolphin Slash. But what you're talking about is the dolphin slash ledge grab. Which is explained here:

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=216620

 

[ChibixD]

I'd use counter <3

Q.
Whats "DS" and i dont really get how to do it, i know its a fast edgehogging trick but i just dont know how to perform it

DS is your up B, just use in his up B, you will always win because of your invencibility start up, and DS has a nice knockback

 

[Nike.]

Is there a proper way to DI Pikachu's Bair, or are you just supposed to take every hit?

 

[Pierce7d]

Is there a proper way to DI Pikachu's Bair, or are you just supposed to take every hit?

Really good question actually. I don't even know the answer to this myself. I'd recommend asking in the Pikachu boards.

 

[ChaosDrifter]

So I finally just made the PR in my region as a Marth main (10th spot only, but PR is PR) and now im striving to improve my Marth even more and not only stay on the PR but move up it. Do you "experts" have any tips on training or should I just watch more vids and play against more ppl to practice? My region is MK/Snake heavy if that helps.

Also how the hell do you deal with Olimar? I cannot do that matchup for the life of me! His pivot grab is annoying as ****.

 

[zer0.]

I was watching mikeHAZE vs Felix, and mike GR>spiked felix and I was like wtf. Is it a true combo or Felix was messing it up?

 

[Player-3]

it's not a true combo.


mikehaze tries to gr spike everybody (and apparently it works sometimes), biglou told me that he was trying to do it to him LOL

 

[Mr-R]

iirc marth doesn't have a guarenteed grab release on diddy

 

[clowsui]

in the case of an air relesae he does, yeah

 

[Exdeath]

Is there a proper way to DI Pikachu's Bair, or are you just supposed to take every hit?

DI/SDI away from Pikachu's DI.

 

[zer0.]

it's not a true combo.


mikehaze tries to gr spike everybody (and apparently it works sometimes), biglou told me that he was trying to do it to him LOL

in the case of an air relesae he does, yeah

Yes, in the case of an air release. So he does or he doesn't?

 

[mikeHAZE]

you guys are so silly

 

[Shaya]

he doesn't have a guaranteed air release on diddy...

but if diddy does get air released, various moves are guaranteed.

 

[clowsui]

zer0 i was responding to mr-r

@shaya which moves are guaranteed from an air release? pretty sure it's only dash attack

 

[tibs7]

Shaya what do you mean air release isn't guaranteed?

 

[Shaya]

i'm pretty sure diddy's air release is like squirtles....

or sheiks... in terms of height off the ground, but the length is more...

air release isn't guaranteed...
as in if I grab you with Marth.. you won't always be air released unless you're hanging off a ledge... its the diddy's inputs that decide whether he gets air released.

compare that to marth on squirtle/wario, which will always be an air release.

 

[tibs7]

Oh wow I had no idea......thanks Shaya

 

[mikeHAZE]

lmao you guys are SO silly.

clowsui, fair is also guaranteed btw

 

[Enzo]

lmao you guys are SO silly.

clowsui, tipped fair is also guaranteed btw

fixed, and with great reason...

 

[ChaosDrifter]

how do you guys approach olimar? and deal with his pivot grab?

should i just zone him and push him towards the edge of the stage until mid percents or wat?

 

[ChibixD]

Landing with air dodge has the same lag as an empty landing?

 

[Shaya]

Yes chibi.

How do you approach Olimar?
Pushing towards the ledge is good.
Remember that crossing over is pretty good unless he predicts.
Also remember that a properly ff fair to your own grab comes out faster than his grab.

 

[mikeHAZE]

Landing with air dodge has the same lag as an empty landing?

there is two landings.


a short hop handing or a "soft and" takes less frames than a full hop land.



shaya gimme frames <3

 

[Lord Chair]

Shaya would know, hell yeah!

 

[Shaya]

2 and 4 respectively.

 

[Supa-Fwop!]

i have a few questions-

whats marths strongest kill move

how do i meteor smash? almost every time i do down air they go up

why does marth look like a girl?

thats all for now

 

[Reizilla]

gtfo, vato alt.