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[•Col•]

Nice post about the Quickdraw, Kirk.

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Great posts, as always. :D

I knew most of that stuff, except when your opponent misses a tech. I never really thought about that before... And as I'm writing this post, I LITERALLY just thought of this... What if the opponent is on the edge? If you're far enough away and start charging it, their options are severely limited... Either they: drop down and then regrab the ledge, do a ledge attack, ledgehop a move, roll up from the ledge, stand up from the ledge, or jump from the ledge.

If they drop down and regrab the ledge, that'll just... Do nothing, basically... xD You can charge Quickdraw forever.

If they do a ledge attack... They get a charged quickdraw to the face. :D

If they ledge hop an aerial, most of the time they'll get hit by quickdraw... However, some characters have projectiles they might be able to stop you with... Even then, sometimes you can reach them (depending on the character/projectile) before their projectile comes out... xD

If they roll up from the ledge, and you're far enough away, I believe it's possible to hit them with the quickdraw once it's finished... I could be wrong though, I haven't been playing Brawl very often lately...

If they stand up from the ledge... You might be able to quickdraw them, but I'm not sure if you can reach them before they can react (someone else will have to answer this one)... But even if you can't reach them in time, if they decide stand up from the ledge, and you're charging a quickdraw, they'll usually shield immediately. This is where Kirk's "Charge it for no reason..." idea also will come into play... xD

Now this is the one I'm most uncertain about... If they decide to jump, I'm not entirely sure what you can do... You MIGHT be able to counter react in some way, but I'm not really sure... Perhaps you can jump after them and reach with a fair... Maybe you can Qucikdraw in the opposite direction, and make them use their second jump, or punish their landing lag or something... I dunno. Someone else will have to explain this one too...



So yeah, just so you all know, like I said before, I haven't been playing Brawl a lot lately, so I'm not 100% SURE everything I've said above is entirely correct... ^_^;; Also, feel free to go into further detail or correct me on anything I've said in this post... =P





Also, on a side note:

I am taking a break just like RoK did. I think I will become a better player that what I already am. I will come back with a vengance. U just wait and see. I will also stop spamming. Peace out sincerly, CK

Doubt it.




EDIT: Added colors to my post, cuz I'm bored. xD

 

[HeroMystic]

ew, colors...

So what's up with the sudden explosion of new threads lately?

 

[•Col•]

ew, colors...

So what's up with the sudden explosion of new threads lately?

HEY, DON'T BASH MY COLORS. D:

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I was bored... ;_;

Also, I think that was one of my longest and most productive posts here on Smashboards... xD Gawd, I should try to contribute more.

 

[YagamiLight]

Oh, NOW you guys start liking Quick Draw.

From my experience, confronting them on the ledge with it can work, but do realize that the penalty for just going straight ahead and not hitting anything is the ******** swing animation. What I prefer is impotent Quick Draw to Dtilt. Very fancy kill.

 

[Arturito_Burrito]

I completely attribute these new noob threads to that sticky.

edit: I don't think many people here know how to use QD as a recovery anyways. Its needed like that one post about aether that has vanished now. Aether is gimpable and QD is better against certain characters in certain styles of edge gaurding.

I will still continue to bash it because Ike's can go from bad to decent by just dropping QD from there entire game. Which is a lot of people in here.

And kirk learn to back air when you get launched. XD

 

[Kirk]

What I prefer is impotent Quick Draw to Dtilt. Very fancy kill.

Fancy, but not reliable. :/

As for QD while your opponent is on the ledge, you're covering every option ACCEPT when they ledgejump. They can jump up, then use their second ump to get over you. In this case, just QD underneath. You just missed an opportunity for an edgeguard basically. More than likely, your opponents will jump, as it is the smartest thing to do.

 

[Arturito_Burrito]

I might have to start mixing in QD to my game it is a very easy way to punish laggy moves or things that charge and missed techs which I always do with dash attacks.

That charging it for no reason I've done it before and I just get shot in the face 0.0 won't be counting on that for to long but it could be a triumph card at high percents which is when people really panic.

Colya your think doesn't work on a lot of people because they can ledge hop and shoot a projectile.

 

[HeroMystic]

To be honest I started using QD more because of my fights with Light... XD

But no, I still don't use it for recovery unless they're trying to edgeguard and I happen to be over them.

...I love spiking silly people as an anti-edgeguard technique... so satisfying.

 

[•Col•]

Ouch. Shot down in my prime. D:

Anyway yeah, I wasn't sure if you could still somehow still attack the opponent if they jump up from the ledge... But I guess not...

 

[san.]

I'm happy I'm using QD less. Using QD towards an opponent means you're 90% just going to try to attack in some form or another, so I probably hardly use it even once a match in that situation.

 

[MysticKenji]

I use QD mostly for punishing and occasionally for recovery.

 

[Kirk]

That charging it for no reason I've done it before and I just get shot in the face 0.0 won't be counting on that for to long but it could be a triumph card at high percents which is when people really panic.

Colya your think doesn't work on a lot of people because they can ledge hop and shoot a projectile.

That's what I forgot to mention in my post. Thanks for pointing that out. If your opponent has a projectile, then just charging it won't do you much good. Though the other situations would still work fine.

Ouch. Shot down in my prime. D:

Anyway yeah, I wasn't sure if you could still somehow still attack the opponent if they jump up from the ledge... But I guess not...

Technically you could still punish someone if they ledgejump. You just have to predict it, since the animation is very fast. They lose their invincibility as soon as they get off the ledge, so technically QD can still hit them. You just have to be very precise in your timing.

I'm happy I'm using QD less. Using QD towards an opponent means you're 90% just going to try to attack in some form or another, so I probably hardly use it even once a match in that situation.

The main point of my post was ways to use QD as a means of punishing, not as a means for an approach or an attack. It should still be used sparingly, for sure, but it is an option you have and it is surprisingly easy to use if you know what you're doing. But yeah, don't use QD to just attack...that's just silly.

 

[•Col•]

That's what I forgot to mention in my post. Thanks for pointing that out. If your opponent has a projectile, then just charging it won't do you much good. Though the other situations would still work fine.

I realize that. That's why I said in my previous post...

If they ledge hop an aerial, most of the time they'll get hit by quickdraw... However, some characters have projectiles they might be able to stop you with... Even then, sometimes you can reach them (depending on the character/projectile) before their projectile comes out...

xP

 

[Reapd]

Thank you.

AND thank you. :D

Speaking of videos, I've been uploading 1-2 each day since last week.

ALSO, if all goes well, my next compilation shall be released by next Saturday. *Hopes for the best*

NO WE should brawl soon. I live near you. SO yea. And can't wait for the next compilation. BTW, do you main any other chars.??

 

[Rykoshet]

The only 3　reasons I tend to use quick draw are a missed tech, no reason at all to get people out of my **** face, and to get away from people here and there. Recently I've been using it more but you'll rarely if ever see me use it to recover, which is why when I'm put in a position where I have to use it I tend to hear an audible comment >_>

 

[Nidtendofreak]

I use QD to move around the stage trip free. Nothing like running towards the ledge to intercept a guy and then tripping as he lands safely and beats the crap out of you. >_< If I have enough space to do so safely, I will QD to move. It's faster as well, which is a plus.

 

[Rykoshet]

I use QD to move around the stage trip free. Nothing like running towards the ledge to intercept a guy and then tripping as he lands safely and beats the crap out of you. >_< If I have enough space to do so safely, I will QD to move. It's faster as well, which is a plus.

Homebrew and (previously) a habit of short hopping everywhere has gotten that out of me.

 

[comboking]

That's considered cheating you know?

 

[MysticKenji]

There's no problem with playing with no tripping on your own time.

 

[comboking]

I meant when U are battling people unless they say so
like in a turny or something

 

[HeroMystic]

Because I'm sure you'd be able to load up homebrew in a tourney to piss people off because everyone loves tripping.

 

[Rykoshet]

You really may just be the dumbest human being in existence. I obviously don't mean heromystic either.

 

[comboking]

why?
Some people are good sports and like the game the way it was made.

 

[Reapd]

Yea................ Wow................

 

[comboking]

It's true.
Am i Stupid or is it just U guys.

 

[HeroMystic]

<____<

I am taking a break just like RoK did. I think I will become a better player that what I already am. I will come back with a vengance. U just wait and see. I will also stop spamming. Peace out sincerly, CK

What happened to this?

 

[comboking]

I was not just spamming I was stating a fact. But I will stop im just a little stressed.

 

[Arturito_Burrito]

why do you ask question to which you already know the answers too CK? Of course your stupid.


I just watched X-men =P

 

[comboking]

which question

 

[Gabz]

Oh boy, hes just saying what he thinks not to be like that. It doesnt mean that im on your side CK(nothing personally) but let him talk without saying his the dumbest person in the world.

PD: sports-brawl?. There surely will be a response with an argument to this post so bring it on!!!

Oh and another thing CK. Do what you think you want to do, dont follow someone else decision like rock the reaper did. Just do the things you need or want to do not someone else's. Besides i dont get the pint of saying im taking some rest with ike, it just doesnt make sense to me.

And depends on which x-men XD

 

[comboking]

I made this decision myself!

 

[Rykoshet]

No, I stand by my previous statement, and I defy you to prove that he isn't actually the world's dumbest functioning non-******** human being.

 

[Gabz]

I actually dont know him so i cant assure you anything but i can tell you everyone has different opinions. He may not be the smartest one or the clever one but still he can express himself without the need of being insulted. i can proove you that by telling you he knows what hes doing and the people who make a big deal of it and keeps saying the same thing over and over are actually the ones that actually dont think too much.


Im not refering to someone especifically maybe i sometimes do that but i can assure you if you give him an opportunity youd see hes not that dumb althought he does need to say more intelligent words to put it like that. Well thats as far as i go with this.

 

[comboking]

I am very smart i just don't show it here it's not worth the time

 

[Rykoshet]

There's a difference between exhibiting one's mental prowess and exhibiting the basic ability to not be a mouth breather. Trust me, this is all very contextual.

 

[Reapd]

It's true.
Am i Stupid or is it just U guys.

Wow. Stop trying to act cool. STOP TRYING TO ACT COOL AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE CONVERSATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[•Col•]

Wow.... So I come to this thread, only to find two pages of CK being stupider than ever....

Yeah... I'll be back later after this has passed... D:

 

[comboking]

fine let's find some thing to discuss. Please don't ignore me and please remove me from your Ignore lists.

EDIT: what I posted was stupid I apologize.

 

[SaltyKracka]

I propose a vote. All for the communal ignoring of CK, say Aye. All opposed, say nay.

 

[comboking]

I'm helping now (look at the post above you)