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Arkansas Smashers Chat

ihavespaceblondes

ihavespaceblondes

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Tha_Shogun_12 said:
Lol, Oh man oh man, I played Melee the other day.......

........

............IT WAS AWESOME!


Man I miss that fast paced shiz, but it still hasn't been my main focus just yet, seeing as DEV is coming up and I plan on going for SCIV.

But Iori.......my Samus coming back to speed. Be afraid, be very very afraid, muahahahahaha! Lol, I say about 2 more days of solid play and my tech skill will get back up to speed, mind games won't be for about another 4~5 days of solid play though. I'm still in shock you remember that Bowser Vs. Samus match up, that makes me feel toasty inside.
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What kinda bs do you think you're talking, Iori ain't losing to no Samus.
 
G. Vice

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ihavespaceballs said:
What kinda bs do you think you're talking, Iori ain't losing to no Samus.
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Iori is so much improved from back then. And believe you me, Samus is probably the person he's best against. Jack's Samus is one of the best out there, and Iori always is able to give him a run for his money.
 
G. Vice

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ihavespaceballs said:
"run for my money" nothing, dude 3 stocked me twice in loser's semis last weekend.
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Iori's really good, and he's just super effective vs IHSB. It's like Charizard going against Blastoise. They are both equally awesome pokemon, but Blastoise is always gonna hose old Charizard down I guess.

Unless Charizard leveled up more to overcome his natural disadvantage.
 
chamberlin

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G. Vice said:
Iori's really good, and he's just super effective vs IHSB. It's like Charizard going against Blastoise. They are both equally awesome pokemon, but Blastoise is always gonna hose old Charizard down I guess.

Unless Charizard leveled up more to overcome his natural disadvantage.
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This Pokemon analogy is surprisingly accurate. Well done sir
 
Tha_Shogun_12

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ihavespaceballs said:
What kinda bs do you think you're talking, Iori ain't losing to no Samus.
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Lol, well I gotta see this then.

Yea everyone gets better no doubt, but it's the level of better that you get is the question. Don't make me dust off my Nike's and then dust you guys, I would expect more on my return.......WHEN I return :D.
 
Handorin

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That same tournament ihsb is talking about, Iori beat darkrain in pools, and ihsb beat darkrain in losers. >_>

so I doubt it.
 
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Oh vice you and your pokemon speak, I don't understand a lick of it. I would definitely be a haunter if anything, and if we were making the same comparison jack would be a nomal type. While having moves of different types to combat with, none of them are very effective. :3 He is amazing though and all his recent vids just make that more a reality.

@Shogun curious on how this will go down as well, just be prepared for the king Bauzah.
 
Vts

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arbustos said:
iori

do you plan on advertising mewtation iii? like making it a video response to mewtation ii or posting it in the combo video section? right now it's sitting at three views.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIsrasOuuNA


editing was better in II :bee:
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<3 arby i love being the champion :D.

also loved the music it was too good

so gotta put out brain freeze soon and then work on the 2nd one called brain freeze, not again >< :D.
 
Vts

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so am i going for a combo here?

3 so far anyone else want to say something?

i'll play melee again soon moving and work is causing a stir up

in before c-c-c-comb breaker
 
Tha_Shogun_12

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Got three chances to play, and it's working up quite nicely. Got a couple of mind games to boast but nothing fancy or fully effective just yet. I still need acouple of more go-at-it's before I'm fully ready.

I did end up getting a 3 stock though, but still have more work to do before I get back to prime again.
 
arbustos

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jack, in my half-conscious ramble I kind of confused different DI concepts :\

"SDI = 0.6 Jigglypuffs
ASDI = 0.3 Jigglypuffs

If you smash a direction and then hold it to both SDI and ASDI you'll move slightly less than the width of a standing Jigglypuff in that direction."

that's the magus quote I was referring to, but he doesn't mention the c-stick at all. I think its real purpose is for SDI and ASDI in different directions or covering your back if you miss the ASDI on the control stick.

Magus420 said:
Don't confuse the default flight path your character follows with a given amount of knockback for the attack's actual default trajectory. The vast majority of attacks have a 45° angle, and so you would generally survival DI those full diagonally up & towards.

To more accurately see the attack's actual trajectory use it on Jigglypuff (floatiest character), and with extremely powerful knockbacks WAY beyond what would be needed to kill you (either by being at crazy high damage or for fixed knockback attacks you can increase the handicap and offense ratio).

Full strength DI changes the launch angle by about 17.5° in either direction. This is only where it's possible to get a full strength input perpendicularly.

For angles that don't fall on one of the 8 cardinal/ordinal directions (notches) of the control stick you can't actually get full strength DI due to the controller's design. By applying a more perpendicular angle, you sacrifice distance of input/strength of the DI since you can't actually press the stick in that direction as far as you can in one of the 8 directions. Attacks with these intermediate angles generally end up having the 'ideal' angle for DI be more towards one of the 8 directions rather than being the true perpendicular.


Angle ... Strongest DI ........ Examples
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+90° .. [DI: ±180°/±0°] ...Peach U-Smash(Shoulder); CF/Ganon/Samus/etc D-Air(Ground)
+85° .. [DI: ±180°/±0°] .. Fox U-Air(Kick2); Marth U-Tilt(Above,Behind)
+83.75° [DI: ±180°/±0°] .. Falco Dwn-B
+80° .. [DI: ±180°/±0°] .. Fox U-Smash(Strong); Ganon D-Tilt(Outside), F-Smash(Up); Peach U-Air
+76° .. [DI: ±180°/±0°] .. Kirby D-Smash(Inside)
+75° .. [DI: +150°/-30°] . Falco D-Tilt; Marth D-Smash(Strong-Back); Peach U-Smash(Weak)
+70° .. [DI: +150°/-30°] . Ganon D-Tilt(Inside), F-Smash(Normal); Falco U-Air(Kick2-Strong)
+65° .. [DI: +150°/-30°] . Link D-Air; CF(Nipple)/Falco/Marth(NTSC) D-Air(Ground)
+60° .. [DI: +140°/-40°] . Doc F-Air; Ganon F-Smash(Down); Bowser F-Smash(Outside)
+55° .. [DI: +140°/-40°] . Ganon N-Air(Kick1)
+45° .. [DI: +135°/-45°] . {WAY too many to mention}
+40° .. [DI: +135°/-45°] . Sheik D-Smash
+32° .. [DI: +130°/-50°] . CF F-Air
+30° .. [DI: +130°/-50°] . Marth D-Tilt; YL/Yoshi/Zelda D-Smash; Ganon/CF U-Air(Behind-Above)
+29° .. [DI: +130°/-50°] . Peach F-Smash(Racket)
+27.5°. [DI: +130°/-50°] . Doc B-Air(Strong); Kirby D-Smash(Outside)
+25° .. [DI: +120°/-60°] . Sheik F-Air; Fox/Falco D-Smash
+24.5°. [DI: +120°/-60°] . Bowser B-Air(Strong)
+20°... [DI: +120°/-60°] . Kirby D-Tilt
±0° ... [DI: +90°/-90°] .. Fox Dwn-B; Ganon(Behind-Below)/Pikachu(Overhead) U-Air; Jiggs D-Smash; Link Up-B(Weak)

(±180°=Towards Opponent, +135°=Up&Towards, +90°=Up, +45°=Up&Away, ±0°=Away, -45°=Down&Away, -90°=Down, -135°=Down&Towards)



Here's a more filled out list of angles (though not nearly close to being complete):
Code:
Bowser F-Smash (Inside) [+45°]
Bowser F-Smash (Outside) [+60°]
Bowser B-Air (Strong) [+24.5°]

Captain Falcon F-Air [+32°]
Captain Falcon U-Air (Weak) [+30°]
Captain Falcon D-Air (Meteor) [-90°; +90° grounded]
Captain Falcon D-Air (Spike) [-65 deg; +65° grounded]
Captain Falcon D-Throw [+65°]
Captain Falcon U-Throw [+85°]

Doc F-Air (Outside) [+60°]
Doc F-Air (Inside) [+60°]
Doc B-Air (Strong) [+27.5°]
Doc B-Air (Weak) [+45°]

Falco Dwn-B [+83.75°]
Falco U-Tilt (Inside) [+97°]
Falco U-Tilt (Outide) [+90°]
Falco D-Tilt [+75 deg]
Falco F-Smash (Front) [+45°]
Falco F-Smash (Inside) [+110°]
Falco U-Smash (Strong) [+95°]
Falco U-Smash (Weak) [+45°]
Falco D-Smash [+25°]
Falco U-Air (Kick2-Strong) [+70°]
Falco D-Air [-65°; +65° grounded]

Fox U-Smash (Strong) [+80°]
Fox U-Smash (Weak) [+45°]
Fox D-Smash [+25°]
Fox U-Air (Kick2) [+85°]

Ganon D-Tilt (Outside) [+80°]
Ganon D-Tilt (Inside) [+70°]
Ganon F-Smash (Up) [+80°]
Ganon F-Smash (Normal) [+70°]
Ganon F-Smash (Down) [+60°]
Ganon D-Smash (Kick1) [+160°]
Ganon D-Smash (Kick2) [+120°]
Ganon N-Air (Kick1) [+55°]
Ganon N-Air (Kick2) [+45°]
Ganon U-Air (Semi-Weak) [+30°]
Ganon U-Air (Weak) [±0°]
Ganon Fwd-B [+105°]
Ganon D-Throw [+100°]
Ganon U-Throw [+90°]

Kirby D-Tilt [+20°]
Kirby D-Smash (Strong-Outside) [+28.5°]
Kirby D-Smash (Weak-Outside) [+28.5°]
Kirby D-Smash (Strong-Inside) [+76°]
Kirby D-Smash (Weak-Inside) [+76°]

Link D-Air (Strong) [+65°]
Link D-Air (Weak) [+65°]

Marth U-Tilt (Strong-Front) [+110°]
Marth U-Tilt (Strong-Above) [+85°]
Marth U-Tilt (Strong-Behind) [+85°]
Marth U-Tilt (Weak-Front-Inside) [+45°]
Marth U-Tilt (Weak-Front-Outside) [+110°]
Marth U-Tilt (Weak-Behind) [+85°]
Marth D-Tilt (Both) [+30°]
Marth F-Smash (Strong) [+45°]
Marth D-Smash (Strong-Front) [+70°]
Marth D-Smash (Strong-Back) [+75°]
Marth D-Air (Strong; NTSC) [-65°/+65° grounded]

Peach U-Air (Leg) [+80°]
Peach U-Air (Crotch) [+45°]
Peach F-Smash (Pan) [+80°]
Peach F-Smash (Racket) [+29°]
Peach U-Smash (Shoulder) [+90°]
Peach U-Smash (Weak) [+75°]
Peach D-Smash [+140°]

Sheik D-Smash (1st Hit) [+40°]
Sheik F-Air [+25°]

Yoshi D-Tilt [+28.5°]
Yoshi D-Smash (Both) [+30°]

Young Link D-Smash (Both) [+30°]

Zelda D-Smash (Front) [+30°]
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a list of best possible angles he posted awhile ago
 
Vts

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TheSaberGuy said:
Don't matter to me, bring whatever or whoever you want. If you want you could bring an xbox 360 and halo 3 if you wanna practice or we could just play on mine. Or if you wanna play some MW2 need 2 boxes
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all i got is 1 xbox and mf2,

might bring halo 3 for some kicks but i also need to renew my xbl membership

since moving is still underway and working on new house is going slow may have to be a different time ><

since we need to get moved in asap which was this week but some fall backs making this harder.

but i'll tell you friday if i can come or not.
 
arbustos

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wowee that was a lot of footage. 700 GB?

vice, you didn't get any of your slippery ganon recorded! it was all **** ganon, which works for the vid, but I know you wanted waveland clips as well. every routine or combo w/ excessive wavelanding you did always corrupted or wasn't captured :\

you actually didn't get much ganon recorded; most of the time I was just trying to find a pearl in the secondary rough. what I have is definitely usable, though. let me know what you think.
 
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