Juggleguy
Smash Grimer
G-Sword, PM me if you're serious about TOing Smash 64 at this so we can discuss more.
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Midwest [Apr 4, 2015] SWEET XX: A Super Smash Bros. Melee Tournament feat. Westballz! (East Lansing, MI)
- Thread starter Juggleguy
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Rh1thmz
Smash Journeyman
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fZk
Smash Lord
Rob, in case G-sword (Josh) agrees to TO 64, since he's not well know, I can vouch for him as being a responsible guy. We've been playing together in EL for a while now and have nothing but positive things to say. I know you take pride as a host and don't want t repeat of last time.
Juggleguy
Smash Grimer
Alright, thanks Juan. It looks like 64 will happen at this.
SWEET X: "Yes, there is Brawl. **** the police" edition.
tears of joy
The Sauce Boss
Smash Ace
I think I'm going to try to come to this
I've been jonesing for some smash lately.
I don't even own a copy of the game anymore lol
I've been jonesing for some smash lately.
I don't even own a copy of the game anymore lol
Roller
Smash Legend
Brawl players, which ruleset would you prefer? Apex or Vinnie's?
I am leaning towards Apex, but am open to giving Vinnie's a try if there is enough interest.
I am leaning towards Apex, but am open to giving Vinnie's a try if there is enough interest.
Hot_ArmS
Smash Hero
apex ruleset
FF WuvS
Smash Ace
This man knows what's good
Rob, you should set up a poll for the Brawl players on which stagelist to use. (between Japanese, Apex, or Vinnie's)
Brawl stagelists have always been a tough topic to decide on. People want Apex because it makes characters more balanced, and people want the Japanese/Vinnie's stagelist because they want the metagame to evolve emphasizing more on player vs player.
Brawl stagelists have always been a tough topic to decide on. People want Apex because it makes characters more balanced, and people want the Japanese/Vinnie's stagelist because they want the metagame to evolve emphasizing more on player vs player.
Hot_ArmS
Smash Hero
swf polls dont work well, anyone can vote, ive visited other tourney threads with polls before and voted just to troll
Roller
Smash Legend
I'm not using Japan's.
Nobody else uses it. You don't even use it, JTsm. You can't ban FD with their ruleset. You use a modified version of it. And not many other places will be using stage lists like that one. MI's tourneys should keep our players prepared for when they travel to other states to prove themselves vs other regions. Using rule sets that you likely won't see at other tourneys doesn't help the players learn how to contend with other regions who use other rules.
Or maybe I'm wrong, and Ohio's approach of not giving a damn about being able to compete with other regions is better. I'll let you guys decide.
Nobody else uses it. You don't even use it, JTsm. You can't ban FD with their ruleset. You use a modified version of it. And not many other places will be using stage lists like that one. MI's tourneys should keep our players prepared for when they travel to other states to prove themselves vs other regions. Using rule sets that you likely won't see at other tourneys doesn't help the players learn how to contend with other regions who use other rules.
Or maybe I'm wrong, and Ohio's approach of not giving a damn about being able to compete with other regions is better. I'll let you guys decide.
JTsm
Smash Master
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Vinnie's Ruleset: http://allisbrawl.com/blogpost.aspx?id=147474
Yeah okay, because Japanese ruleset proves nothing to competitive play. It's such a detriment ruleset that it's impractical to practice from.
/sarcasm.
Just because a fellow IC main suggested a ruleset it doesn't mean you have to bash another.
I used it once, and people seem to be okay with it. I used Apex at my last tourney to see how things go. I plan on using it this summer.
Yeah okay, because Japanese ruleset proves nothing to competitive play. It's such a detriment ruleset that it's impractical to practice from.
/sarcasm.
Just because a fellow IC main suggested a ruleset it doesn't mean you have to bash another.
I used it once, and people seem to be okay with it. I used Apex at my last tourney to see how things go. I plan on using it this summer.
Xatic
Smash Lord
Any of those 3 rulesets (stagelists) are fine by me. I don't mind either way. I'm always leaning more towards APEX; though, I wouldn't mind trying Vinnie's ruleset either.
EDIT: If I had to vote. I'd really like to try Vinnie's new ruleset since it seems to be an attempt at a "universal" ruleset.
EDIT: If I had to vote. I'd really like to try Vinnie's new ruleset since it seems to be an attempt at a "universal" ruleset.
As long as it isn't RAIN's ruleset, I'm cool with it rofl
FF WuvS
Smash Ace
Well, I'm a bad Yoshi, so I like bad rulesets 
But if it's only between Vinnie's and Apex, Vinnie's looks pretty good to me, so I guess my vote is for Vinnie's~
But if it's only between Vinnie's and Apex, Vinnie's looks pretty good to me, so I guess my vote is for Vinnie's~
It's ok Kyle, I'm looking forward to SPAU3 <3
Roller
Smash Legend
I didn't really "bash" the Japanese ruleset. I would LOVE it if the legit Japanese ruleset was the norm. It'd be fantastic for me, personally.
What I am bashing is the idea of using rulesets that aren't the norm for when we travel to other regions to prove our strength as players, and a state as a whole. Hosting tourneys where I get to CP FD every set is not going to prepare me for Genesis or Apex any better than ones where MKs get to CP Brinstar every set.
If we ever want to be respected as a top level state on a national scale, then we need to be competent playing the game with the rules the nation uses most frequently.
What I am bashing is the idea of using rulesets that aren't the norm for when we travel to other regions to prove our strength as players, and a state as a whole. Hosting tourneys where I get to CP FD every set is not going to prepare me for Genesis or Apex any better than ones where MKs get to CP Brinstar every set.
If we ever want to be respected as a top level state on a national scale, then we need to be competent playing the game with the rules the nation uses most frequently.
Roller
Smash Legend
You would condemn Vinnie's list to being "unfun" without having tried it...?
I see.
I feel like a lot of people are using suboptimal criteria for advancing the state's scene when making their decisions.
I see.
I feel like a lot of people are using suboptimal criteria for advancing the state's scene when making their decisions.
fZk
Smash Lord
It's funny that vinnies ruleset has fd as a counterpick. I still prefer it over apex due to lack of jank.
Honestly I would have all those 7 stages as neutral and strike to.determine the first match. So 7 starters, 0 counters.
Also I'm thinking of going to this so I need a partner. Do you have a partner loe1?
Honestly I would have all those 7 stages as neutral and strike to.determine the first match. So 7 starters, 0 counters.
Also I'm thinking of going to this so I need a partner. Do you have a partner loe1?
Juggleguy
Smash Grimer
I'm leaving that decision to Brian (Roller) who will be running the Brawl event. I'm not qualified to speak on the subject, since I haven't really played Brawl much since 2009, lol. It doesn't hurt to discuss things in this thread, though!
Juggleguy
Smash Grimer
It'll be Melee, Brawl, Smash 64. Just updated the original post to reflect this. This will be the first SWEET tourney to feature all three games... looking forward to it!
AllyKnight
Banned via Administration
NO PM? booo0o0o0o0o0
Juggleguy
Smash Grimer
I think my head would explode if we had to manage four different events at this. Gonna stick to three for now, we'll see how it goes and re-evaluate for the next one.
Xatic
Smash Lord
If you need any extra TO help. I'll be offering my services if needed @Juggleguy. (I can run any smash event idc which one if that's the case)
Just lemme know.
Just lemme know.
Rob, I can help out for Melee if you want.
Pizzaman
Smash Cadet
I will try to come
W.C.N
Smash Lord
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I'm against the constantly shrinking stage lists, every time I like a stage that takes getting used to it goes away and I'm tired of it, Vinnies may be competitive and fun for some but less stages for me to choose from but certain stages I don't like are still on ill pass
Shocksauce
Smash Cadet
What's a cheap hotel in Ann Arbor?
There's a fairly cheap Red Roof Inn there.
Juggleguy
Smash Grimer
The Red Roof Inn (Ann Arbor South) is the cheapest hotel in town. Looks like it's going for $60/night right now. But if you're looking for housing, you should try the Michigan Melee Facebook group first.
I should post in this since this is in 2 weeks.
1.) Hype!
2.) I'm down to test out Vinnie's stagelist/ruleset
3.) Rob what do you feel is the color scheme for this tournamnet series? I will be starting the layout work for this soon.
4.) I can bring 2 TVs, 1 Brawl Setup, and Power Strips/Extension Cords!
1.) Hype!
2.) I'm down to test out Vinnie's stagelist/ruleset
3.) Rob what do you feel is the color scheme for this tournamnet series? I will be starting the layout work for this soon.
4.) I can bring 2 TVs, 1 Brawl Setup, and Power Strips/Extension Cords!
Juggleguy
Smash Grimer
Hmmm, anything that isn't red or green should suffice.
Also, I'll need you on board for TOing help, Ori.
Also, I'll need you on board for TOing help, Ori.
Since its at U of M I'll go with a Maize/Blue theme. So you have a logo for this?
You have my
Luminoth64
Smash Ace
what's brawl attendance looking like for this? i'm going to be in detroit for a show on the 8th and might just stay at a hotel overnight to come to this.