Apex 2013 - Pools up in OP! - Only at the door for FGC!

[Alex Strife]

Not really..most locals they get 1 stream for all games and schedule around it.


To be fair at Major events it is 2 streams

one 2d
one 3d


sometimes it is one anime but if there is only one stream they don't demand another stream they just do it themselves.

 

[da K.I.D.]

Not really..most locals they get 1 stream for all games and schedule around it.


To be fair at Major events it is 2 streams

one 2d
one 3d


sometimes it is one anime but if there is only one stream they don't demand another stream they just do it themselves.

Felt that part needed to be restated.

 

[Grey Belnades]

Oh, well I admire their initiative.

 

[Player-1]

I mean I want separate streams for melee and brawl, they're not the same game though

 

[Alex Strife]

Well, again, we have adressed that and it will happen for brackets

 

[Player-1]

good then I have no complaints

 

[Alex Strife]

shouldnt worry about it...you are coming XD

 

[Player-1]

ya it's just that I have some friends that are trying to get more competitive the game and last year when I told them to watch the Apex stream since it's the biggest tournament of the year it was disappointing to them :/

 

[Alex Strife]

well we did all we could and tbh there was hours upon upons of smash...I am not going to debate but people need to realize we cannot put everything on the stream...maybe it will be a little more clear/organized now but I'd say they should really realize that there were a lot fo matches on day 1- 2...infact that wAS all there was lol

but I understand to them they didnt see enough bracket matches THEY felt was worth it but it is a catch-22 in my eyes...but we made adjustments just so people can watch as much as possible but the way people act they feel that everything is stream worthy and it really isnt...I can talk on aim since it is easier but I wanna make it clear to everyone...cause I think none of you read what I wrote in the OP that we took a look at everything and made adjustments to the schedule and format...sad no one reads the OP ;_;

 

[Heartstring]

smahers can prove to be incredibly demanding but wont put in a lick of effort to help.

I know that feel TT_TT
Anyway, one of the UK smashers has a super discount for flight, so as soon as he gets back from germany we're all going to book together

 

[standardtoaster]

when is the deadline for registering?

 

[Vixen]

when is the deadline for registering?

100000times this.

 

[J.Shadows]

Shouldn't matter you guys should register asap

 

[Vixen]

I can't because of bills. My paychecks for all of October and November are going to credit card payments, phone, car repair, car insurance, gas, savings account, food.

I need to be certain I can register in December.

 

[GDX]

Probably by end of the year

 

[Alex Strife]

^ pretty much that

FIRST PRICE INCREASE IN 2 WEEKS EVERYONE BETTER REGISTER!

 

[GDX]

answer my first question!

How many people get out of the pools? top 2, 3, 4?

 

[Alex Strife]

4 people homie to a 128 man bracket XD

 

[xFats]

Register on the site, we all know how cheap you smashheads love to be.
I'm gonna register as hood ****** mcgee

 

[GDX]

128 man bracket? Ok do people who lose in their pool continue their losses? Or do they start over fresh in new bracket with lower seedings?

 

[da K.I.D.]

pretty sure they start over fresh. as they should.

 

[GDX]

They should not start over fresh. I'm going either way and this isn't a dealbreaker or anything, (I doubt many people will care) but I'm just saying it shouldn't

 

[Player-1]

yes it should otherwise it's just one giant bracket >.>

 

[GDX]

Exactly. Bracket pools are just one giant braxket broken down to more manageable size to run. The only reason they're even called pools is just to differentiate between when they combine with another part of the bracket

If it doesn't start over its not fair to the first two seeds of every pool..so pretty much half of the final bracket. Because people who get top 4 from losers of their first pool already have a loss. Then they start over fresh in the new bracket? That means they get 3 losses. While the people who were in winners side only get 2 losses, since they didn't lose in their pool

No matter if the player is better and gets higher seeding you can't sit there and say it should be that way that they get an additional loss in the entire tourney than others. You can say you like it that way bit you should not say that it should BE that way for any reason except personal opinion and nothing based on fact.

As my crewmate would say, STOP!

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Pika

?????

 

[Player-1]

Exactly. Bracket pools are just one giant braxket broken down to more manageable size to run. The only reason they're even called pools is just to differentiate between when they combine with another part of the bracket

If it doesn't start over its not fair to the first two seeds of every pool..so pretty much half of the final bracket. Because people who get top 4 from losers of their first pool already have a loss. Then they start over fresh in the new bracket? That means they get 3 losses. While the people who were in winners side only get 2 losses, since they didn't lose in their pool

No matter if the player is better and gets higher seeding you can't sit there and say it should be that way that they get an additional loss in the entire tourney than others. You can say you like it that way bit you should not say that it should BE that way for any reason except personal opinion and nothing based on fact.

As my crewmate would say, STOP!

One big bracket is just dumb to have, I no whenever I travel to a regional/national I'd like to play as many people as I can and enjoy myself.

It's fair for the people to the first 2 seeds because they're getting better seeding, don't see what's so unfair about that. And sure I can say that it should be that reason, if they get another loss then they're getting a worse seeding, if they outplace someone with only 2 losses then they did better in a harder bracket, props to them.

 

[GDX]

Some people should not have more losses than others when a bracket is involved. It's simple but its also the entire point

You get your games in through friendlies and money matches. Tourney matches are not the time to get maximum games in. Tourney matches are the time to test skill.

My tourney was bracket pools and it seemed to be just fine. if people bring enough setups for the tourney itself to run well (32 setups for each game), anything over that can be perma friendlies and not affect tourney schedule

 

[Player-1]

Right and I would want to test my skill as much as possible against as many people as possible. I didn't like the format of your tournament at all ( I still enjoyed myself a log though). I don't mind bracket pools at all for large events, they need to get done on time and that's understandable, but you should at least be resetting the records once it gets to main bracket.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

I didn't like bracket pools either

 

[BSP]

There's really no reason why I shouldn't be able to come to Apex this year. I'm gonna look into it.

 

[Vixen]

^ pretty much that

FIRST PRICE INCREASE IN 2 WEEKS EVERYONE BETTER REGISTER!

can you make an.exception for the people who literally can't due to life expenses?

 

[crismas]

If there's anyone who's still interested in signing up to be a part of the Artists' Alley for 2013, please sign up now http://www.apex-series.com/artists-alley/intent/ -- the Letter of Intent is closing Oct 31 please be sure to read the FAQs as well: http://www.apex-series.com/artists-alley/info/. I know there are a handful of people who participated last year who have not signed up: Vudujin [in case of name search ]

 

[da K.I.D.]

Exactly. Bracket pools are just one giant braxket broken down to more manageable size to run. The only reason they're even called pools is just to differentiate between when they combine with another part of the bracket

If it doesn't start over its not fair to the first two seeds of every pool..so pretty much half of the final bracket. Because people who get top 4 from losers of their first pool already have a loss. Then they start over fresh in the new bracket? That means they get 3 losses. While the people who were in winners side only get 2 losses, since they didn't lose in their pool

No matter if the player is better and gets higher seeding you can't sit there and say it should be that way that they get an additional loss in the entire tourney than others. You can say you like it that way bit you should not say that it should BE that way for any reason except personal opinion and nothing based on fact.

As my crewmate would say, STOP!

Agree to disagree.

Look at the last 3 apex. Round robin pools. You could make final brake with five loses and then still get into a double elim bracket.

If its not going to reset into a brand new bracket, don't call it pools.

 

[xFats]

that bracket pools discussion is totally wtf.

 

[GDX]

yea of course when its round robin or swiss, some people will have more losses

but when its bracket pools...no. Bracket pools arent actually pools. They're just split up into sections that people call pools cause people are used to the terminology already

 

[oksas]

can you make an.exception for the people who literally can't due to life expenses?

i can probably just cover you


man i swear in like january i'm going to get 500 bucks out of nowhere. unless hector never pays me back before he leaves 9_9

 

[Heartstring]

i stopped reading when i saw walls. whos *****ing now?

 

[GDX]

I just want people to admit its unfair but they like it that way. Cause im about to logically **** on people who say its logically correct to reset the bracket

I'm going either way, like i said before, and a player of my level benefits from having more losses to work with since im not a top player....but I still recognize faulty reasoning when I see it

 

[da K.I.D.]

I prefer a bracket reset. but i dont mind one long bracket as long as you dont call the early rounds pools. i dont really think its a matter of fairness.

 

[Player-1]

it's logically correct to reset the bracket.