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Apex 2013 Info Dump!

Radical Dreamer

Smash Ace
Joined
May 14, 2007
Messages
827
pp never fsmashed

that's why he could never kill armada
This is generally the sentiment of players who either don't main Marth, or don't play him at all. A tipper can kill Peach much earlier than 200%, but in the overall flow of most floaty matchups, fsmashing is a risk that usually favors the floaty character over Marth. In general, since 2007 the Marth metagame has actually shifted towards fsmashing less, but choosing better opportunities to do it. The Moon is an exception.
 

EpixAura

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Nov 19, 2010
Messages
474
Location
Greenville, NC
Glad to see M2K back. Didn't play gay, pulled off super sexy combos, and beat Mango. I gotta say, when M2K gets going, he REALLY gets going.
Also, those Grand Finals. That was one hell of a plot twist. Marth shall rise again. Maybe.
 

Linguini

Smash Master
Joined
Jul 17, 2006
Messages
4,698
Location
Weston, Florida
shouts to my boy hax doing werk, same to colin ballin'.

**** was so hype I almost thought about picking the game up again.....psych
 

unknown522

Some guy
Joined
Aug 17, 2005
Messages
8,047
Location
Toronto, Ontario
pp never fsmashed

that's why he could never kill armada
#FreeUnknown



Fsmash is risky. I agree with PP's decisions of going for the safer option.

:phone:
the problem is that PP never f-smashed while armada was using his parasol. It's not a risk at those times because armada has no options at that point.

He also should've done them when he baited some of armada's airdodges, instead of doing f-air at like 170%+ (especially the intentionally sour-spot ones).

Aside from that he did a really great job of not f-smashing.
 

Beat!

Smash Master
Joined
Jan 8, 2010
Messages
3,214
Location
Uppsala, Sweden
Thanks, Armada. Great job as always.

Good **** to PP for doing better with Marth than I thought he would. Still not enough, though.

M2K, amazing job!


Can't wait to hear Mango's excuses.
 

SpiderMad

Smash Master
Joined
May 6, 2012
Messages
4,968
Seeing GF reminded me of some interview with Mango, where he talked about how Armada keeps on his game face ftw
 

B_AWAL

Smash Master
Joined
Sep 4, 2007
Messages
4,883
Location
Tallahassee
Lol I hope the Brawl metagame changes to attract more Melee player the same way vice versa happensx

:sonic:
 

Phyr

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Jul 12, 2009
Messages
278
I liked HBox vs Armada WAY MORE than any of the matches vs PeePee. These were awful boring to see.

Ness vs Toon Link was hell epic. And so sad to not have Armada vs M2K :<
 

Dr_Strangelove

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Mar 21, 2009
Messages
316
Location
London
this just cements armada's place as the best player ever. PP played the matchup really cleverly, never letting armada touch the ground and never bothering with risks, played it better than anyone else could have. armada is just too good though, the matchup is horrible, it was being played perfectly and he was still winning comfortably in some of the games in both sets.

though what I really mean is GET SPANKED AMERIFATS GG EASY NO RE.
 

Nintendude

Smash Hero
Joined
Feb 23, 2006
Messages
5,024
Location
San Francisco
While people are waiting for the bracket / full results, here's random non-streamed stuff I remember that I watched / was playing / heard about:

Silentswag over Kels 2-1 in round 1 winners
PewPewU 2-1 over Plup in losers
SFAT 2-1 over DJ Nintendo (Fox ditto)
th0rn over SFAT
Vwins over Wobbles 2-1 (ridiculously close set)
Nintendude over Kels 2-1
Bladewise over Nintendude 2-1
SilentWolf over Bladewise
Shroomed over Westballz (I think Westballz lost round 1 but I forget who beat him)
Diakonos over DoH
 

Vixen

~::Fragile::~
Premium
Joined
Sep 30, 2012
Messages
1,511
Location
Tucson, Arizona
just gonna day that there was a sickening amount of theft.

iPad, Sgs 2, several controllers, ipod, plus a bunch of stuff out of my purse.

apex staff is gonna address it later.

:phone:
 

strawhats

Smash Master
Joined
Feb 19, 2009
Messages
4,273
Location
Bronx
just gonna day that there was a sickening amount of theft.

iPad, Sgs 2, several controllers, ipod, plus a bunch of stuff out of my purse.

apex staff is gonna address it later.

:phone:
Holy ****! This^1000x over this^ How many times did I hear someone's lost their Ipad/Iphone or other ****.:(

Also did Dajuan go marth vs Wes, cause I know how he's been struggling in that MU as doc of late
 

Nintendude

Smash Hero
Joined
Feb 23, 2006
Messages
5,024
Location
San Francisco
My controller was one of those announced, but it turns out I was a n00b and it fell out of my bag in the car. Still though, not sure who to blame here. I doubt anyone known in the Melee community was involved. There were a crapton of people there for all sorts of games so it could have been anyone, and regardless people need to be more watchful of their stuff in a setting like that.
 

Diakonos

Smash Lord
Joined
Apr 22, 2009
Messages
1,710
Location
Canada
I'm going to try to go by memory.

1. ARmada
2. PP
3. M2K
4. Mango
5. Hungrybox/KK
5. Hungrybox/KK
7. Shroomed/Hax
7. Shroomed/Hax
9. Axe
9. Vwins?
9. Silent Wolf?
9. ___ (someone obvious that I'm forgetting. Maybe Overtriforce?)
13. Zhu
13. Javi
13. PewPewU
13. ___ (someone I'm forgetting. Maybe Overtriforce?)
17. Leffen

And there were a bunch of others around 17, but I'm less sure of these... probably Wobbles and Bam, among others. Maria told me I was guaranteed 17th, but in retrospect I'm not sure how this would be the case... probably 25th?

Anyway. Hope that helps.
 

Rostigalen

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Nov 9, 2005
Messages
493
Location
Stockholm
SO:

7. KirbyKaze
7. Hax
9. Axe
9. SilentWolf
9. OverTriforce
9. VWinz?
13. PewPewU
13. Javi
13. Zhu?
13. ?
17. Leffen
17. Tope
17. ?
17. ?
Posted this in another thread while everything was running. Tope lost to Axe who beat Javi after that, making Tope 17th.

I think Shroomed beat OverTriforce, Hax beat Axe and KirbyKaze beat Silent Wolf, so Mango beat VWinz as a result?

In the battle where loser gets 13th place, VWinz beat Zhu, Axe beat Javi, Silent Wolf beat PewPewU...who did Shroomed beat here?
 

Anand

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Nov 20, 2010
Messages
282
Location
Cambridge, MA
Juggleguy what's the deal with S2J and Javi? I don't actually know anything.

Apex had good streaming (especially by 8wayrun) but not very much other information.
 

Juggleguy

Smash Grimer
Premium
Joined
Aug 16, 2005
Messages
9,354
Location
Ann Arbor, MI
Juggleguy what's the deal with S2J and Javi? I don't actually know anything.

Apex had good streaming (especially by 8wayrun) but not very much other information.
They played friendlies and Javi won 3-1. No moneymatch or tourney set though.

:phone:
 

R3N0

Smash Lord
Joined
Mar 29, 2006
Messages
1,899
just gonna day that there was a sickening amount of theft.

iPad, Sgs 2, several controllers, ipod, plus a bunch of stuff out of my purse.

apex staff is gonna address it later.

:phone:
This is what bothered me so much. Sorry Mizuki!
 

Wretched

Dankness of Heart
Joined
Aug 6, 2010
Messages
4,166
Location
New Mexico
Sorry that happened to you, Mizuki. I had my controller stolen at a local tournament when I lived in Missouri. I just felt violated. It doesn't compare to that sort of invasion of privacy, but still.

Inui was there so he probably did it. #FreeWretchedsController
 
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