An index of "leaks" and status: forbrawlbattle's "second post" and Brawl360 removed

[Revven]

This is why I think Nya, ChaosZero, or ShadowXOR are either lying or have faulty info. There's no way all of there info will come true and we only get 3 more Newcomers.

Well, IMO, CZ is right and Nya could still be wrong though it's pretty hard to say so with three things backing her. Still, I believe CZ more than anyone else and when he's right again I'll be happy. He already got Sheik right so the next character he said that would appear is Wolf, and who wants to bet that perhaps Wolf will be updated next? Hopefully so.

 

[kingjoekur]

has anyone given any additional information on characters with the glide ability? like said a new (or returning vet) PC would have glide ability?

 

[Zevox]

has anyone given any additional information on characters with the glide ability? like said a new (or returning vet) PC would have glide ability?

Nope. And I seriously doubt any veteran would have it - none have wings, and Kirby is the only one with anything close to the ability to fly or glide in his own games without them.

Zevox

 

[JayceMJ]

Nope. And I seriously doubt any veteran would have it - none have wings, and Kirby is the only one with anything close to the ability to fly or glide in his own games without them.

Zevox

Link = Deku Leaf
Mr. Game & Watch = Parachute
Mario & Luigi = Cape
Falco = Bird (Assumption that as a bird he can glide)
Also Mewtwo and Ganon can both hover. (Mewtwo being based on the anime version, that is)

 

[Titan05]

Although it was debunked, I'm impressed with the statistical improbability of Nintendrone's predictions.
I'm probably looking for a pattern but so far he has guessed 2 characters correct in a row.
Lucky guesses FTW.
Was the strike system ever explained?

 

[Zevox]

Link = Deku Leaf
Mr. Game & Watch = Parachute
Mario & Luigi = Cape
Falco = Bird (Assumption that as a bird he can glide)
Also Mewtwo and Ganon can both hover. (Mewtwo being based on the anime version, that is)

We already know Link doesn't have such a move (and if he did, it wouldn't be gliding, more like slow falling). On G&W, a parachute isn't gliding, it would be like Peach's parsol - slower falling. Mario we know doesn't have the ability to glide, and really, a cape wouldn't grant it either. Falco might be possible now that you mention it. And hovering isn't gliding.

Zevox

 

[JayceMJ]

I know all that, I was just saying.

And in Super Mario World the cape allowed you to glide after a big flying jump. Then you did that little boingey thing to keep in the air, ect ect. He doesn't have that in Brawl but he can indeed glide with the cape in his games.

 

[FlipTroopa]

I dunno... The Prima/Nintendrone thing may have been similar to the Melee leak, where the original leakers were like, "No, it's fake. SORRY!" when fans got incredibly irate over the list including Pichu, Doc, and the like. Of course, a few months later we were all shocked when the leakers were LEGIT.

It's a strange coincidence that all the characters are in Dojo order, including the newly revealed ones, with the Prima list. We can't ignore that. People can say stuff is fake and be lying too.

EDIT: but then again, it has Mewtwo who Serebii semi-deconfirms. Hmm..

 

[UltimateX64]

i think i mentioned it before but I never said Ness and Wolf were in the SSE, and only that they were deconfirmed. they will be in the game somehow. could be an assist trophy, a trophy, or a sticker perhaps.

 

[Titan05]

We already know Link doesn't have such a move (and if he did, it wouldn't be gliding, more like slow falling). On G&W, a parachute isn't gliding, it would be like Peach's parsol - slower falling. Mario we know doesn't have the ability to glide, and really, a cape wouldn't grant it either. Falco might be possible now that you mention it. And hovering isn't gliding.

Zevox

He was just pointing out that it would be possible if someone felt like doing it.

huzzah for statistical improbabilities!

 

[Terrabottuti]

EDIT: but then again, it has Mewtwo who Serebii semi-deconfirms. Hmm..

I don't exactly want to feed the flames for this silly idea, but wouldn't it just be safer for Serebii to just deconfirm any genuine leaks, instead of just saying "yeah, that's a real leak"... he'd probably get into a bunch of trouble by just saying a leak happens to be the real deal, especially if it IS the real deal.

UltimateX64: Or maybe they could be special costumes? Let's face it, Ness and Wolf pretty much resemble Lucas and Fox anyway. I know there's the whole "Wario alone is special" business, but that doesn't stop them from simply being alternate colors, or something else besides costumes you can play with from the start.

 

[kingjoekur]

Nope. And I seriously doubt any veteran would have it - none have wings, and Kirby is the only one with anything close to the ability to fly or glide in his own games without them.

Zevox

i can see them using the glide feature to declone falco a lil more

 

[ßruK]

-Subspace Emissary Detail: Shadow Bugs (Being that combines with other Shadow Bugs to create Primids)

We already know that from this Pic:

 

[Jesus Freak Nor]

Hmm, I really hope a 3rd Party Character from Capcom (Megaman) is revealed this week or rapscouter is debunked and rapscouter is one of the most believable ones.

 

[MajinNecro69]

Editted out Vatro Xu disagreements.

@Jesus Freak Nor: He won't be debunked, he'll only have two strikes against him. He must be debunked FOUR times in one category to be proven fake.

 

[Gold_Darkness]

MajinNecro, new One_Step87 info (http://brawlcentral.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=795):

**NEW INFORMATION**

As you can see, Brawl got a 40/40. That is what I was planning on revealing today. My source is true, apparently, so let's post some information I withheld yesterday for the heck of it:

-Master Hand is no longer the final battle in classic mode; he is in SSE.
-Krystal, Wolf, Young Link (Cel Shaded,) and Marth are all playable.
-Not all of the characters who scored high on Sakurai's poll are playable characters in the game. Some have roles in SSE.
-There will be a Wind Waker-based stage.

 

[Zinfandel]

I still think the Prima leak has the most official info concurring with it and lending cred. I mean, the Dragoon is much less predictable than Sheik and Olimar but predicting both and showing when they will appear in their respective orders? Heck, even if the roster is wrong I won't feel like a fool for giving it the most faith - if you play a safe bet ("it'll be 1-5 on a six-sided die") and you still lose ("wtflolmaomg it's a six anyway!") you still made the best decision probability-wise.

The only thing that speaks against Krystal, Geno and Ridley is the absence of Lucario and the presence of Mewtwo. Confound you Serebii, you well-intentioned, informative and mysterious spoilsport!

 

[YSM]

So that new guy...with the Wario character, WTF 3rd party, Paper Mario, etc...his credibility would either go WAY up or be completely destroyed if we could determine whether or not he actually DID leak Mario Galaxy info early. Anyone have a link to that? If anyone posts on those boards they should ask him for the link.

 

[Zinfandel]

MajinNecro, new One_Step87 info (http://brawlcentral.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=795):

Hmm. Fits with Prima. I wonder if it was premature to take the debunking of said Prima leak in such earnest. Of course, I am biased what with Krystal and 41 other PCs in total being in it...

 

[Hejiru]

Woah, woah, wait. What?
What is this Prima leak I'm hearing about? The roster is in order of something? Can I see a link to it?

 

[Elysium]

http://nintendrone.blog.com/2368798/

yeah.....but something isn't right with that

I'm with Zin, I place more faith in this than any other "leak".

 

[Jesus Freak Nor]

Editted out Vatro Xu disagreements.

@Jesus Freak Nor: He won't be debunked, he'll only have two strikes against him. He must be debunked FOUR times in one category to be proven fake.

Oh, ok...thank you. Although, if a 3rd party character from Megaman is confirmed this week...then his reliability shoots way up from stating the week and company. lol.


BTW, I asked at Gamestop yesterday about the Guidebook and their computer still had it being released on Feb 4th, while the computer already had Brawl delayed to March 9th. I hope this is true, even tho we will know everything about the game on the 31st of January. lol.

 

[CT Chia]

where is this prima leak everyones talkin about

 

[Elysium]

Top of the page for the link...

 

[Help!]

"**NEW INFORMATION**

As you can see, Brawl got a 40/40. That is what I was planning on revealing today. My source is true, apparently, so let's post some information I withheld yesterday for the heck of it:

-Master Hand is no longer the final battle in classic mode; he is in SSE.
-Krystal, Wolf, Young Link (Cel Shaded,) and Marth are all playable.
-Not all of the characters who scored high on Sakurai's poll are playable characters in the game. Some have roles in SSE.
-There will be a Wind Waker-based stage.


Last edited by One_Step87 on 16 Jan 2008 11:17 am, edited 2 times in total."

One step posted again saying that new info, just thought id let you know now

 

[YSM]

Again, not to repeat myself, but if anyone posts on those boards, they should ask one_step87 to give a link to his supposed leak of Mario Galaxy info. If he's telling the truth about that, he might actually be worth watching.

 

[rusashi]

Another forum I goto said Sukapon was debunked by Sakurai himself in response to a fan letter, anyone know if this is true or not? Cause it would debunk a lot of the rosters posted.

 

[Terrabottuti]

Another forum I goto said Sukapon was debunked by Sakurai himself in response to a fan letter, anyone know if this is true or not? Cause it would debunk a lot of the rosters posted.

You're actually half-right... somebody asked Sakurai for Sukapon to be in Brawl, and Sakurai replied saying that Sukapon was actually considered for Melee, but he ended up not making it, presumably because he was a little complicated to do at the time... so yes, there was a deconfirmation for Sukapon, it's just the wrong game though.

Nobody has any idea regarding Sukapon being in Brawl, besides the fact he was considered before, which presumably gives him a bit of a chance.

 

[YSM]

Another forum I goto said Sukapon was debunked by Sakurai himself in response to a fan letter, anyone know if this is true or not? Cause it would debunk a lot of the rosters posted.

I think he said it wasn't possible in Melee because it was too difficult to make him into a fighter, due to his unusual design. I don't think that rules him out for Brawl though, because Sakurai has had a LOT of time.

 

[Titan05]

http://nintendrone.blog.com/2368798/

yeah.....but something isn't right with that

I'm with Zin, I place more faith in this than any other "leak".

Ditto. When I initially read this link I thought it might have been "the one."
Since then... Well, I trust it more than any other "leak."

 

[FlipTroopa]

I'm just sick of waiting. Somebody go threaten Prima or NOA or for the roster.

 

[RobinotX]

Well a little question.. Serebii sorry for asking but can you tell.. if the roster is 35 or more... I mean..

I don't really care... No Clones =Win..

40 characters is what I am expecting.. maybe 41 or 42..

Well.. we will wait.. very shortly what the roster is going to be.. x3.

Lucario and Isaac and I am happy x3.

Well a good Luigi will be fine to =D. And if Marth is back _O_.

 

[Hejiru]

Ditto. When I initially read this link I thought it might have been "the one."
Since then... Well, I trust it more than any other "leak."

But there' no Lucario, didnt Serebii confirm him?

And OneStep predicted the SHadow Bug thing AFTER they had already been shown on the Dojo, with the Primid trophy.

 

[Masque]

I would like to see what OneStep has to say about Claus. If Ness isn't playable, Claus is the only other MOTHER rep that makes sense. (In fact, Claus would undoubtedly be a better choice than Ness in the first place, and he should really be in regardless of whether or not Ness makes it.)

 

[Serebii]

Good god, I discredited that roster leak ages ago, keep up

 

[Starphoenix]

Good god, I discredited that roster leak ages ago, keep up

The theory going around is that maybe it has a connection to which character is updated next on the DOJO, it does not mean those are ALL the characters, it is just kind of interesting how after DDD and IC it has Sheik and Olimar.

Just an interesting thing, if the next necomer and veteran are Krystal and/or Jigglypuff, that would be way to coincedental.

 

[Zek]

What is the deal with this sudden surge of popular opinion in favor of Ness returning? His removal was basically the common consensus not long ago based on Lucas' updates. Nothing has changed since then and suddenly everybody thinks he's likely to come back. I hope you guys realize that it's nothing but fake rumors that you're letting affect your judgment. First one or two frauds claim he's in, then as people familiarize themselves with the idea, later frauds confirm him too to add to their credibility, and so on... There's nothing factual to go off of here, you guys are just building your expectations off of eachother. It's possible that he'll return but I still think it's highly unlikely.

 

[Elysium]

Good god, I discredited that roster leak ages ago, keep up

True, but I'm wondering if it was made fake on purpose. Whats stopping someone from adding characters that aren't in, to make it fake on purpose but have it be "mostly" true.

The Olimar, Sheik call is just too much to ignore for me. Even if you did discredit it.

 

[Serebii]

Its just a coincidence...nothing more

You people read way too much into the most insignificant things, you really do

 

[Zek]

For what it's worth guys, there's a Japanese ad out now(the long one with all the mode explanations) in which we see WW Link in villager clothes as a trophy. I think it's unlikely they would have shown that if he was playable.

Also, guessing Olimar and Sheik is NOT DIFFICULT. They were both basically shoe-in characters. Anybody could have guessed that.