You also can´t stagestrike fairly with a non even number of allowed stages.
Finland got a Brawl Community?
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American Brawl Standard Stagelist
- Thread starter Staco
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Finland got a Brawl Community?
You also can´t stagestrike fairly with a non even number of allowed stages.
Finland got a Brawl Community?
9 Stages = each player gets 4 strikes
8 Stages = one player gets 4, one 3.
Lord Chair
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lol@Finland finding a way to have a worse stagelist than MLG's xD
So you are saying a laughable stagelist where people ban everything, RC for example, is better?
Seriously, I don't ban stages simply because they aren't flat.
And Green Greens is only there now because we are testing it in tourney play.
Seriously, I don't ban stages simply because they aren't flat.
And Green Greens is only there now because we are testing it in tourney play.
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Having too many elements in a stage apparently equals skill because you have to 'adapt' to them.
Lord Chair
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I'm sorry Finland, but you just ain't Europe.
Neither are you Asia.
Neither are you North America.
You are a region on your own, congratulations.
Neither are you Asia.
Neither are you North America.
You are a region on your own, congratulations.
What exactly is Finland's definition of Neutral? If you're including stages like Castle Siege and Pokémon Stadium 2, why don't you just strike from the full stage list?
Most of Europe's definition of Starter (not neutral, those don't exist) are stages that minimize the Stage VS Player aspect of the game to the minimum possible and do not have room for polarizing tactics like walk-off chaingrabs.
Most of Europe's definition of Starter (not neutral, those don't exist) are stages that minimize the Stage VS Player aspect of the game to the minimum possible and do not have room for polarizing tactics like walk-off chaingrabs.
Because that would take forever and 80% of startermatches are already played on Smashville. We are already a bit hurried due to our time limits.
And this offers stages like FD, BF, Halberd and some others which are really good for some characters.
If FD is in the list, I see no reason why PS2 or Halberd can't be.
And our view of the game is different. I only ban what has been proven broken by tourney play. I only included Green Greens as a test and the next tournament will tell if it is to stay.
Thank you and stuff.
And this offers stages like FD, BF, Halberd and some others which are really good for some characters.
If FD is in the list, I see no reason why PS2 or Halberd can't be.
And our view of the game is different. I only ban what has been proven broken by tourney play. I only included Green Greens as a test and the next tournament will tell if it is to stay.
Thank you and stuff.
Orion*
Smash Researcher
no like
assume theres 10 stages
frigate + 9 others
just strike the 9 and frigay is a cp
xDD-Master
Smash Champion
But why Frigate?
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Shocodoro Blagshidect
nvm im a noob <333
Each players gets 4 stikes, but that doesnt mean that some strikes are more or less important.
The first strike ( 1/5 ) is much less important than the last strike ( 1/2 ).
Because Frigate is not much different from Piazzale Delfino etc.
How many smash players did Finland get?
Anaky
Smash Champion
the first strike is the less important strike and the last one the most important.
now thing about how we strike.
1 2 2 1
=D
Staco you mean how many entered the tournament? It was 19 IIRC.
There are way more players, but not everyone had the money to travel. We also found 2 totally new players who found us by that tourney. That means there are plenty more of hidden players to find.
Our scene is just starting up anyways, you guys are way ahead of us!
There are way more players, but not everyone had the money to travel. We also found 2 totally new players who found us by that tourney. That means there are plenty more of hidden players to find.
Our scene is just starting up anyways, you guys are way ahead of us!
xDD-Master
Smash Champion
This would probably be the best, but not everyone agrees on the last 2 stages you take.
But nearly everyone agrees that FD, BF & SV are fine as starters.
Also most of the people agree that the other 7 stages are OK to be played on.
Brinstar for example; a lot of people think it's not good for competitive play.
So 3 Starter + 7 CPs is probably better, quicker and easier.
Anaky
Smash Champion
Yeah ur right, best stage list eva.
F*CK BRINSTAR, although its good for me in the UK, bcuz Calz and Kasper always ban it vs me, meaning i get a free CP (Lylat).
No one thinks that way.
xDD-Master
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Well, i know people :>
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Most of us do.
We just stay away from "official" stage discussion because we don't like Super Theory Bros. where stages like Norfair and Picto magically become "decent counterpick" stages, that "promote diversity" and are "fit for competitive play". Most of the time we're just there to troll people until a mod shows up but the discussion is almost exclusively led by [and in the end only affects] american players. Just because you're exposed to their point of view more doesn't mean that "nobody thinks that way".
Lord Chair
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Tbh I believe most Americans believe BPC is nothing but a pile of rubbish.
's just 90% of them rather than 95% of the Europeans.
's just 90% of them rather than 95% of the Europeans.
xDD-Master
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Hm, well I got an idea :O!
When I think twice, it could be fair, if we would use the 10 stages, and make it an 1-1-1-1-1-2-2-2-2 System. So the first Player strikes 5 stages, but the second player can choose a stage out of the remaining five (Equal to "just" 4 strikes). Somehow this balances itself out...
This would quicken up the SS-Process as well, since one player just strikes half of the stages and the other player chooses one.
What do you think o.O?
When I think twice, it could be fair, if we would use the 10 stages, and make it an 1-1-1-1-1-2-2-2-2 System. So the first Player strikes 5 stages, but the second player can choose a stage out of the remaining five (Equal to "just" 4 strikes). Somehow this balances itself out...
This would quicken up the SS-Process as well, since one player just strikes half of the stages and the other player chooses one.
What do you think o.O?
Anaky
Smash Champion
3 Starters and 7 Counters or 5 Starters and 5 Counters.
Or else leave it how it is imo.
Or else leave it how it is imo.
Cool story, bro.
How about you talk that kind of BS out with your fellow Super Theory Brothers master BPC while we have fun actually playing this game [without Brinstar ofc].
This should be tested although I think player 2 still has the advantage. It's not like there are a lot of horrible stages for many characters [especially with our stae list].
4 quality strikes >>> 5 quantity strikes
I'm pretty sure BPC in Brawl Stage Discussion is like Mango in Melee
Anaky
Smash Champion
This Finland talk is weird. What are your starter stages? Spear Pillar, Temple and Mario Bros?
xDD-Master
Smash Champion
Hm I'm not sure :/
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Shocodoro Blagshidect
A strike between 2 stages is WAY more important than striking 1/10.
Player 2 has an advantage.
it's a difference to chose stages your opponent will not be able to play on and to choose a stage of 5 where he can play on. The Second one is definitive the better one.
xDD-Master
Smash Champion
And what if we would stike out of 11 Stages, one player strikes 6 stages, the other one chooses o_O?
(Just askin)
Out of 11 the fairer way to do it is
1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 1
Player 1 strikes 4 stages, Player 2 strikes 5 stages, Player 1 chooses a stage from the remaining two