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Active Player Thread: Ones who does not have Triforce can't go in
- Thread starter Zankoku
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choknater
Smash Obsessed
its probably safe if its spaced like PERFECTLY
but still a bad idea cuz ddd runs around a lot with running shields, too hard to space
the idea is to needle a lot to force him to jump, then get under him and utilt/uair when he is not dairing
and even if he does dair, u can punish it
walkup ftilts are good if hes not shielding, but generally u dont wanna approach and just needle a lot
double jab to grab = **** on ddd. it is already good on other characters but ddd can basically do nothing
and yeah id imagine the peach v lucario matchup is not that good... but its the best i got haha, i tend to get off on lucarios pretty easily cuz im really aggressive and im good at not getting hit by cheesy stuff, including rolls behind me. ****s dumb!
but still a bad idea cuz ddd runs around a lot with running shields, too hard to space
the idea is to needle a lot to force him to jump, then get under him and utilt/uair when he is not dairing
and even if he does dair, u can punish it
walkup ftilts are good if hes not shielding, but generally u dont wanna approach and just needle a lot
double jab to grab = **** on ddd. it is already good on other characters but ddd can basically do nothing
and yeah id imagine the peach v lucario matchup is not that good... but its the best i got haha, i tend to get off on lucarios pretty easily cuz im really aggressive and im good at not getting hit by cheesy stuff, including rolls behind me. ****s dumb!
KenniSpam!
Smash Master
Watch vids of me vs magicjosh if you wanna learn how to beat a shieldspamming dedede ._.
youtube.com/spongejordan123 has TONS of me vs MJ... (we play in finals and GF of nearly every local tourney XD)
Ok i just remembered one thing i learned from my last encounter with MJ... Do NOT take a defensive ddd to bf. EVER. ._.
youtube.com/spongejordan123 has TONS of me vs MJ... (we play in finals and GF of nearly every local tourney XD)
Ok i just remembered one thing i learned from my last encounter with MJ... Do NOT take a defensive ddd to bf. EVER. ._.
Variable
Smash Ace
Somebody must really hate you, if you have negative 3,622 posts. lol
those kids are all SOOOO BAADDDDDDD dont even try to use them as an example. Not even trolling
Tewx2
Smash Ace
Camp Dedede. Hard. Force his fat *** to approach, and work it out from there. Full hop needles> Waddle dee toss, and its lagless if done right so its pretty safe too. If he starts Shield dashing(or just abusing shield in general), to counter your needles, keep running and spamming needles until his shield gets low then go for the shield poke into [insert combo here]. D3 is heavy which makes it hard to kill, but hes notoriously fat which makes it easy to damage rack. Golden rule of this MU: everyone dies at 300+
Yeah, MagicJosh is not a prime example of a Dedede for the matchup, unfortunately.
KenniSpam!
Smash Master
Magicjosh is the best ddd ive ever played. Better than lain, fade, simamatty...
Sima and Josh were of approximately equal difficulty to me.
stealth3654
Smash Lord
While camping, punish DDD whenever you see him waddle toss. The end lag is pretty large.
One think I love to do against DDDs is whenever they are recovering low and have to use their up B, grab them out of it. Then pummel to put damage on them and force them to break away under the stage again. Rinse and repeat until they get to a high enough % and kill them with uair/fair next time they use their up B.
One think I love to do against DDDs is whenever they are recovering low and have to use their up B, grab them out of it. Then pummel to put damage on them and force them to break away under the stage again. Rinse and repeat until they get to a high enough % and kill them with uair/fair next time they use their up B.
choknater
Smash Obsessed
this is how i fight ddd lol
needles till he approaches
godliek combo from 0-70
more needle camping until he approaches then punish till he gets to like 100+, get a random hit
transform
zelda till he dies
so easy yo
ddds can try to grab me but i got this
needles till he approaches
godliek combo from 0-70
more needle camping until he approaches then punish till he gets to like 100+, get a random hit
transform
zelda till he dies
so easy yo
ddds can try to grab me but i got this
Zwarm
Smash Hero
Namesearching ftw. I only do it like, once a month I swear.
I'm not the greatest ROB, but the last time we played I made you ragequit, so don't say you **** me. XD I've gotten a lot better since then too, because that was probably back in February, go to MAS's again so we can play.
Nappy, I played you at MAS in uhh, I think it was March? The pool with a lot of Snakes and me. I beat your MK with my ROB, then you proceeded to beat me with Snake. XD
KenniSpam!
Smash Master
phi1ny3
Not the Mama
lol I don't remember where I saw it, but I saw a DDD get ***** by jab cancel spam (like it kept poking through his shield because of the weird tilt on Yoshi's Island), and get jab walled on Rainbow cruise.
Yeah a lot of Lucarios are unfamiliar with the MU, like most of them forget that fair is practically useless against a spacing peach lol.
Zwarm
Smash Hero
Sadly, yes. That's not Sheik though!Remember rob vs. falcon?
****.
Thunder Of Zeus
*Rumble Rumble*
My word your signature is distracting. This isn't the first time I've caught myself watching it cycle after cycle.
#HBC | Scary
Hype Incarnate
Alrighty, time to **** at CEO. I hope.
KenniSpam!
Smash Master
Ook can beat Boss. Just saying.Big Lou (Luigi) downed Judo (Sheik) 2-0. Big Lou won Game 1, despite 126% damage done by Judo in one chain.
Awww
KenniSpam!
Smash Master
I just got done playing Sin242's IC's... And I've come to one simple conclusion...
**** sheik, im going 100% mk for that matchup lollllllll
I swear that kid is gonna be #1 in minnesota soon, and one of the best in the midwest
**** sheik, im going 100% mk for that matchup lollllllll
I swear that kid is gonna be #1 in minnesota soon, and one of the best in the midwest
Judo777
Smash Master
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I kinda got bracket screwed but im not dissappointed with how i played almost beat Kryzstedes (aka number 1 player in IN/KY region and the guy that beat DEHF next round) 2-0 my first round i won game 1 and came soooo close on game 2 he was at 97% i was at 200% last stock. It was even last stock game 3 and i killed myself at 17% when he was at 0.
Next game i won by DQ
Then i played Big Lou that guy is nasty. I could have played a little better against him i still put up a great fight it was last stock at least 60% each game. I started figuring out what to do at the end but it was too little too late wasn't camping as hard as i should. I did kill myself 1 stock but it was at 115% so it didn't matter that much.
I had fun though it was definitely worth it.
Next game i won by DQ
Then i played Big Lou that guy is nasty. I could have played a little better against him i still put up a great fight it was last stock at least 60% each game. I started figuring out what to do at the end but it was too little too late wasn't camping as hard as i should. I did kill myself 1 stock but it was at 115% so it didn't matter that much.
I had fun though it was definitely worth it.
Does that mean I placed the highest?
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KenniSpam!
Smash Master
What did you place?
97th, rofl. I lost to Vex.
KenniSpam!
Smash Master
The fight is on!
Florida is so bad at this game... nick riddle only got thrid at Columbus. Shaky a ness only broke top sixteen? lame.
Ed beat Candy in tournament... but Ed didn't win and money, ed's pretty bad too.
I say that to say this. if you can't place in florida you must be pretty bad.
Ed beat Candy in tournament... but Ed didn't win and money, ed's pretty bad too.
I say that to say this. if you can't place in florida you must be pretty bad.
KenniSpam!
Smash Master
Wisconsin is better, our top placing rep was a 3 foot tall snake main.
stealth3654
Smash Lord
KenniSpam!
Smash Master
Iirc squirtle and charetard can only walking GR them
On a similar note, is the dk infinite banned?
Zwarm
Smash Hero
I made Kenni ragequit, not you.
CEO this weekend.
I said all that to say this. if you don't place in florida there is no way you are good. Florida keeps proving that aren't good.
KenniSpam!
Smash Master
I ***** you two days ago
Judo777
Smash Master
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@kenni charizard and sqirtle can do it without stepping. Charizard takes like a very small step after regrabbing but he can still get about 70 grabs across FD. Squirtle every now and then wont grab if u dont take a step but even if u do take a step squirtle takes a step back after grabbing. Squirtle can actually do it without moving at all because of that a true infinite i believe. Ivy can also just like charizard but he moves farther fwd each grab.
@Divilenta getting kills with sheik is quite a difficult task. The important thing is to save ur kill moves and not use them for damage as much. I would always save upsmash for kills if u can and vanish should never be stale. However if u hold off on nair and dsmash that can help u out alot. You CAN save sweet spot bair but bair is such a useful move i think u might want to use it early on.
@Divilenta getting kills with sheik is quite a difficult task. The important thing is to save ur kill moves and not use them for damage as much. I would always save upsmash for kills if u can and vanish should never be stale. However if u hold off on nair and dsmash that can help u out alot. You CAN save sweet spot bair but bair is such a useful move i think u might want to use it early on.
I always save usmash for killing no matter what, vanish as well although I rarely hit with that anyway. I tend to use dsmash for helping rack up damage because of its short startup time. Nair might be a bit easier to save for later, though. I might check out some videos to see how others do it.
Learning to take some risks and edgeguard off-stage helps Sheik's KO ability significantly.