MrEh
Smash Hero
Klaw>Pika's AerialsPowershielding thunder takes almost no skill at all, pika's aerials also get ***** by Bowser tilts so it doesn't matter.
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Klaw>Pika's AerialsPowershielding thunder takes almost no skill at all, pika's aerials also get ***** by Bowser tilts so it doesn't matter.
Help a brother out and go tell that to the Kirby boards.I also don't have too much experience on this, but 70-30 on any matchup is probably wrong.
To be fair, there's going to be some people who say that regardless (God you should have seen our Ganon discussion...), but we'll try to get it on track and informative.We'll be there to help out >:D
.....as long as you guys don't go all "he's big, has small range and is easy to gimp" then this matchup won't be to hard to discuss.
-Bowser King
I'm pretty sure Kirby's grab range is bigger than Bowser's (Which makes no sense whatsoever...) and is much faster. Shieldgrabs are definitely something to be careful of in this matchup.Eh, I'm not too knowledgeable about Kirby's throws, tbh.
But yes, you're right - above and the air in general is nothing where Bowser wants to be. I don't know about Kirby's grab itself (and the range of it), but I do think Bowser has better grab range. As said, I'm not 100% positive.
Kirby has the big point that Bowser's Grab Release shenanigans aren't that effective on the Puffball.
So, I'd say 60:40 just for our great spacing and defensive game... Kirby is forced to approach us, and that's what we normally want.
That's coolAlready picked him up some time ago, yup. His gameplay pretty much suits me. Just haven't posted too much in here, albeit being lurking. ^^"
With that I'm one of the few Bowsers in Europe and the only one in Austria, lol.
Secondary is good enough*high 5*
Another European Bowser (although I'm not a main)
I agree, but I fail to see how that will make Kirby approach. I just threw FC out there as an option to try and bait you into approaching.Eh, FC is not really that good, you name it. =/
While we have the Fortress, and of course our gigantic shield, as well.
Well, I guess that'll be for both waiting until the other one does. Considering that Bowser is far more defensive than Kirby, we have the patience to wait =DI agree, but I fail to see how that will make Kirby approach. I just threw FC out there as an option to try and bait you into approaching.
And this relates to Bowser vs Kirby... How?Man I wish Altered Beast was in this game.
I was thinking the same thing >_>And this relates to Bowser vs Kirby... How?
☆ Don't be too sure about 70:30 being too much. Kirby can chain grab Bowser fairly easy if you apply right, so you'll already have at least 30% on Bowser and at most almost 50% if your apply right. Don't forget about D-Airing him while he come's back, his jumps isn't effective when your too low on the stage, that and Kirby can easily gimp him if applyed correctly, (well, he can gimp most character's). Most of the stuff is probably explaned already in this match up I'm guessing.. ☆And 70-30 is too much vs Bowser anyways. I can see 65-35, but it's probably 60-40. I'd go with that.
☆ Good question.I have a question. Just how WOULD you, or anyone for that matter, gimp Bowser?
You dont need to fortress, just SDI upwards when being hit with the upair or utiltI think we should just write 40:60 for every matchup and save ourselves some time ^_^.
Has anyone tested how reliable Kirby's grab combos are on Bowser with correct SDI and Fortress timing?
Kirby's grab comboes can be escaped by every character. Fthrow>uair isn't even guaranteed against some (mario can jump/up-b, marth can up-b, I'm pretty sure mk can do something...), and all other chars can DI too far away. At least, that's what ninjalink says.Has anyone tested how reliable Kirby's grab combos are on Bowser with correct SDI and Fortress timing?