First you, then the other one. Ganondorf has some pretty great MUs against characters who are above him, especially the likes of
and
for bottom tiers who he can beat,
are low tiers he can soft counter,
and
are the middle tiers he can beat, and there's solid evidence with his massive KO prowess, ability to force some characters to counter (Roy and Mac), and the ability to Flame Choke > F-Tilt everyone above, but Roy, who can just simply be F-Tilted.
might be another example of someone he soft counters; yeah, Doc has good combo follow ups, but he's also a victim of low mobility, a poor recovery and Flame Choke > F-Tilt, as well as light weight and easy to edge guard.
There are characters I can tell could go even with Ganondorf, such as
and
. I'm a bit iffy on
, but maybe he's an even to Ganondorf as long as Ganondorf doesn't manage to find his way around him. Yeah, Ganondorf does have a lot of counters who can beat him like
and
as examples, but most of his counters are often 45:55 to 40:60 in the opponent's favor, maybe 35:65 in the favor of
and
, but those are given.
But Ganondorf having good MUs (and this is from my experience against other decent players from offline tournaments and Anther's) can mean he's better than bottom 3. He's always going to be, to me at least, a low tier, maybe a possible bottom 20, but never really bottom
3, 5, 8 over 2 Baes.
I tend to do that to people. Just read again.
Did I lose you at
again?
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Alright guys, since we have one day left before 1.1.3 ends, who wants to end up posting their own tiers OR end up wanting to discuss the characters like we did in previous viability threads?
