118 Pikachu Tricks (Added Skullbash Edgeguarding)

[SilverSpark]

smells like a new pika trick is brewing :]

 

[Stealth Raptor]

lol it really is the same thing as thunair, i just added the nair lol. here is the thunair thread, it has some more talking about the multihit thunder http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=188708

 

[SilverSpark]

by the way, I added a mini intro and a new table of contents

 

[Muhznit]

could you explain Aftershock a bit more? is it where your opponent gets hit by the thunder explosion and then getting hit again by the lightning?

nice reverse thunder btw :]

That's the thing about it. I can't quite explain it. The most I can say is that the explosion thunder makes when hitting the ground instead of Pikachu still has some knockback to it which seems to be similar to a regular thunderbolt. Because of the extended radius of the explosion, however, it was able to get a better angle to knock pit into the thunderbolts. It may have been bad DI on Pit's part, or a stroke of luck on mine.

Hell, the entire attack was a stroke of luck. I never intentionally wavebounce my thunders. D:

Oh, and for the bouncing Thunder trick, yes, it does work on the spring item, Sonic's trampoline, and pretty much anything you can vertically bounce off.

 

[lain]

This is still the most ******** thing ever. Why call it thunder gaurd? DOUBLE THUNDER? TRIPLE THUNDER?! are you ****ing kidding me? You guy sure have balls to call doing certain moves in succession different names.

This **** it helpful and all, but god **** are you idiots for certain parts of it.

 

[Zylar]

So you dislike those three names... Besides they are more like adjectives.

Double thunder - Thunder twice.
Thunder guarding - Edgeguard with thunder.
*shrug* Whatever.

Anyways lain, why so serious? (No pun intended) They are just names used in this thread. It's not like they're universal, or trying to be. (Except for Quack/QAC which is already universal.)

@silver : Hey, Stealth showed the pika clan a vid of this pika mainer using pika's jab to edgeguard. Maybe you could list it as an edgeguarding option. He also did an wall jab lock or jab wall lock, whatever.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

*facepalm if you couldnt already tell it was a big joke. he was doing them to cpus. wont work vs humans.

 

[Zylar]

AAHAHAHHHHH OOOOOOO *facepalms self*

 

[Muhznit]

*facepalm if you couldnt already tell it was a big joke. he was doing them to cpus. wont work vs humans.

It's still somewhat worthy of exploration. AAA has a distorted hitbox, you see. It may not look like it, but it has just SLIGHTLY more range than F-Tilt while keeping Pika's body hitbox a short distance away. Don't believe me? Set your C-Stick to "Tilts", go onto wi-fi, fool around with the sandbag until you can land "grazing hits" (no damage or flinching) constantly with AAA or F-Tilt. I must say, I expelled stone building materials from my posterior when I first saw this.

With the right spacing, (along with pulling it out of nowhere on bad recoveries) it actually can be used as an edgeguard... sorta.

Also, I'd like to point out that the explosion thunder makes when it hits a platform can hit slightly below said platform, unlike when it just crashes into Pikachu. It's the basis for Aftershock and potentially an important thing to keep in mind when using thunder.... because that explosion can be reflected.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

it works, the problem is any char that can sweetspot with their recveries will never be affected with it. even those who dont, like sonic and wario, can attack through it.

 

[lain]

Sorry. This is still super gay.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

lol lain are you having fun trolling our boards?

 

[5ive]

Guys,
I think I may have a new discovery.

Please watch this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QyzRIRTHYk
At 0:21, you see Falco Doing a Reverse Pivot Boost Chain Grab.

Pikachu may be able to do this on fastfallers and heavies.

To perform this, you:
1. Grab, FThrow
2. Run
3. Press Z and A at the same time while doing the pivot grab motion

Needs testing.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

lol tested this a long time ago. you can do it with dthrow IF they dont rapidly tap jump. ive gotten this off at a bunch of tourneys. the fthrow sends the too far to reverse.

 

[5ive]

But the pivot grab boost takes care of that.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

have you gotten it to work? cause i have tested this and it never went far enough for me.

 

[5ive]

Are you doing it properly?
It works for me, but haven't gotten human testing on it yet.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

i am pretty sure if they rapidly tap jump they wil footstool you. i havent tested this on a human though

 

[iRjOn]

Hmmm pika pros!

I'm messing with pika lately get get my melee pika skill back
I wasn't uber then so I hope to get better but...
If yall do find something from this mind puttin up some vid when yall can?
Cause I wanna study it lol...

 

[Stealth Raptor]

look for vids of anther and other pikas you see around the boards. you will find a bunch.

 

[iRjOn]

O wait >_> they use this pivot thing? o.o kool I'mma look!

 

[5ive]

Watch Anther and check this out,
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=204344

 

[sabu540]

Not sure how useful something has to be to make the list, but if the answer is "barely", I have one to check out XD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7qSR49ekFo

 

[iRjOn]

Thanx 5ive

That pretty kool sabu

 

[M15t3R E]

ROFL @ #73 on the list!
Did you learn that one from Vv's "combo vid"?

Seriously, that will never work on any decent player, even if they use a character with a horrible recovery.
Please take that trick off the list.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

I really have to agree. any recovery move that sweetspots will be unaffected. those that dont can go right through that move with an attack.

 

[K 2]

ROFL @ #73 on the list!
Did you learn that one from Vv's "combo vid"?

Seriously, that will never work on any decent player, even if they use a character with a horrible recovery.
Please take that trick off the list.

Lol...but its so funny...edgeguarding your opponent by holding down A...

Just curious, does jab outprioritize fox/falco's side b? I know falco's phantasm is famous for its sucky priority and pika's jab has decent priority so...

 

[iRjOn]

Random Question but is pikachus meta game advanceing still?

Just wondering i dont really care for any perticular reason.

But on a real note I officaily accept pikachu as my main...


-!ron-

 

[K 2]

Well, since a new AT's are being discovered almost daily, I would say pika's metagame is advancing.

Yay! Welcome to the clan of pika mains. (We are allowed to main more than one character, right?)

 

[iRjOn]

I dunno I just main pika I always only have two one main.

It helps me get better personally.
Are pika boards always so inactive?

Thanx for the welcome =D

-!ron-

 

[Stealth Raptor]

meh we were very active for a while. then galax, the runner of our matchups etc had school johns. i am sure it will become more lively over winter break.

 

[M15t3R E]

The pika board is active some days, quite inactive others.
Our clan chat is usually active during the daytime. Drop by and we can give you all kinds of tips to use pikachu to its potential.
http://xat.com/chat/room/37180170/

 

[iRjOn]

Hmmm really sweet I'mma like it around here...

thanx folks well I'mma hit the hay freaking school

last day b4 Thanksgiving break!


-!ron- out!

 

[Muhznit]

There's an easier way to Crawl Dash now. (Trick #38)

1. Hold the Attack button. (It's easier if you set it as one of your shield buttons)
2. Use the Control stick to walk, not dash.
3. Tap the C-Stick downward to execute a quick duck.
4. ???
5. Laugh at Falco.

 

[Tagxy]

ROFL @ #73 on the list!
Did you learn that one from Vv's "combo vid"?

Seriously, that will never work on any decent player, even if they use a character with a horrible recovery.
Please take that trick off the list.

Noooo, seriously it can work. It has pretty good priority and if theyre stuck on the edge they get locked in for awhile. Though of course its situational and you wont get a gimp out of it.


By the way, what do people know about tailspiking?

 

[iRjOn]

Tail spiking?

What point does it spike?

Is it a semi-spike or a spike?

 

[5ive]

By the way, what do people know about tailspiking?

I would also like to know. Details please.

 

[Tagxy]

well, im sure the pika melee players remember this infamous move. It was a semi-spike but still awesome. I was playing Fino's olimar the other day, and jumped out to edgeguard him and hit him with a tail spike. It knocked him back out fairly far and down a bit with the tip of the uairm causing him to be gimped. Well, he was at about 75%, but it felt good.

I know I've heard rumor of the tailspike sometimes working when brawl first came out, and generally at higher percents. It would be interesting to know if/how it works, what parts of the tail, and at what percents. Again, assuming this wasnt a fluke or glitch. Im gonna start practicing with it a bit more soon.

 

[5ive]

Oh up air.
I thought you were talking about dtilt.
We already know about that, but it's not very useful because of the knockback.

 

[Tagxy]

but it's not very useful because of the knockback.

How do you mean?

It seems about as useful as the melee tailspike, although maybe a bit weaker. I loved that tailspike.