(」・ω・)」 MARS la Marf in Smash 4 (／・ω・)／

[C.J.]

Dsmash and dtilt

Speaking of dsmash, fthrow->tipper dsmash is guaranteed on DDD at 0%

It's a completely useless option but w/e

 

[Ayce God]

sorry I meant db (dancing blade)

doesn't tipper down smash do more damage than tipper fsmash? if yes then not completely useless

 

[Raziek]

Maybe in isolation, but f-smash gets you two additional f-throws and I'd rather have a fresh d-smash for the janky horizontal kill trajectory.

Easy to get when you trap a landing, and fairly safe since we can usually count on pushing Dedede to the ledge because he'll often get double-hit due to his size.

F-Smash also puts him offstage, tipper D is vertical unless 7 am is playing tricks on me.

 

[Vinnie]

Is dthrow reverse dtilt a combo at low %? I saw Mikeneko doing it.

 

[C.J.]

tipper dsmash does 3% less than tipper fsmash.

Tipper dsmash sends vertically although there is that one hitbox on Marth's body that sends almost straight horizontally.

Also dsmash takes 8 years to end, fsmash only takes 3 years.


At super low %s vs people probably just heavier than MK, yes dtilt will probably be guaranteed from dthrow, Vinnie.

 

[Nike.]

Happy birthday, Mike.

 

[Vinnie]

At super low %s vs people probably just heavier than MK, yes dtilt will probably be guaranteed from dthrow, Vinnie.

I saw him doing it against MK o.O

 

[C.J.]

At 0% it might work. After that, mk should be able to shield or jump away. Going off of what else we can do to mk/characters around that weight, it's closer but shouldn't beguaranteed after 0-4%

Of course, it would require the MK to not AD/try to attack/not spotdodge.
Idk, it MIGHT be guaranteed, but everything that was looked into similar things says it isn't guaranteed after 0-4

I'll be near a Wii tomorrow night so I'll check then

 

[Ayce God]

if peach fast falls fair on Marths shield and it's not power shielded, does marth have time to up-b or will peaches jab come out first

 

[C.J.]

It's +0/-1 on Marth's shield realistically. Peach's jab comes out first but your invincibility will eat the jab. She can shield it easily though.

 

[clowsui]

you have to be frame perfect vs the jab or be buffering it thru the fair for it to work.

however the peach also has to be at the optimum height to get the +2 cancel on block

 

[Ayce God]

thought so, good stuff

 

[ぱみゅ]

In any case, Peach's Fiar is slow, you could probably see it coming and DB/Ftilt/maybe Fair if you're in the air?

 

[C.J.]

Not a chance. Fair comes out frame ~12

To fair/DB it you'd have to have an 8 frame reaction time. Ftilt is frame 7 so that would be a 5 frame reaction time.

 

[ぱみゅ]

I think an 8-frame reaction may be feasible if you expect it and react...
But eh, the only time I played a good peach was over 2 years ago and I got 3-stocked.

 

[Raziek]

I think I routinely make 8-frames, haha.

It's easy when you expect.

 

[Shaya]

Yeah I generally just seem to react to Peach's fair.

 

[C.J.]

You know what?


I hate all of you.

Espy get in here, I'm making you proud.

 

[Zano]

I'm going to go all peach in tourney at waba, nothing shall stop me

 

[C.J.]

You're going to WABA, Zano?

Neat, see you there.

 

[Zano]

Yo what? Are you really going?

Don't lie to me man

 

[C.J.]

Yes I'm going.

 

[Zano]

alright then, now you can tell me how bad my marth is in person, hype.

 

[Player-3]

cj is cool you won't realize its him until you play a marth that actually does fthrow > run past pivot grab dthrow

when he did that to me in doubles im like da *** what is this sorcery of practical application of strategy

then i was like wait wtf his tag is cj

no

no

NO WAY


in west philidelphia born an raised on the playground is where i spent most of my days

 

[C.J.]

I do that?
Huh

Makes sense though. Gets you away from my partner (or into a 2v1) and in singles it gets you to the ledge/offstage.

Seems like something I would do; I guess I just never thought about it.

 

[Zano]

Looks like the marth slumber party will be a reality after all.

 

[Nike.]

Counter Peach's fair. It's do-able purely on reaction.

 

[Shaya]

Counter Peach's fair. It's do-able purely on reaction.

I do one better.
Just nair it.

Illmatic knows.

 

[C.J.]

Still hate all of you.

 

[Ayce God]

oh, this is interesting. ill see u boys at waba

 

[Kel]

aww man, now I wanna go to WABA again =(. I was planning on it but it fell on the day before the Bengals vs Giants game =(.

 

[Ayce God]

kel, TiVo that ****

 

[1PokeMastr]

What Nova said.
Just record it and go to the tourney.

You get 2 hype things for the price of none.

 

[ぱみゅ]

Great news! Dolphin Slash Cancels are now eaasier!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWdqPKxYa9Q

 

[Nike.]

But that was mk in the video.
Shuttle loop follows the side of the stage, where DS requires certain angles.

Is there a vid/proof of Marth doing it?

 

[ぱみゅ]

The Description says which characters it works with.
I can't test it as I haven't had a Brawl copy in months.

 

[Zano]

I think the only clear choice from watching this is to main MK now.

 

[Kel]

The Japanese description just says that when you do the grab release 'knock back cancel' you will ledge cancel into shuttle loop. Just an anecdotal thing really.

 

[z00ted]

**** marth, but i still love shaya even after i lost my mind the last 4 days

 

[Player-3]

my ganondorf just took 5 stocks and won 1v2 at the end vs ally wario/mjg diddy kong


come at me