NH Cody
Smash Champion
Sure, but I'm out of state at college without my Wii =[ whenever I go home for weekends or holidays though, we can definitely Marth ditto.
we could both go to Apex too and Marth ditto there xD
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- Thread starter Virgilijus
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we could both go to Apex too and Marth ditto there xD
Your analog stick isn't resetting to neutral properly. So, even thought you think it is in neutral, it's still slightly tilted left when you input shield. You, as a result, roll. Open it up, tighten the analog stick.
Easily* goddammit
He's pretty to look at.
I completely disagree. Otherwise you have people that are midlevel trying to incorporate things they see Ramin/Leon/Mike/MikeNeko/etc do and they don't fully understand why and how it works, even if you explain it to them, due to lack of understanding. Then they complain that it doesn't work, and they post matches asking for help, and then I just link my giant thread at them.
It does more harm than good to be general. Be specific to the level of the people.
Yes he does.
Miss you!
One of my favorite mix-ups.clowsui, the "grab or fair" reaction speed trap is perfect for a reason
No goddammit. Only Vato can do that... and only on the left.
You've never been to Florida or Socal then.
Nah, he's better now.It's all Nike's fault, Shaya.
NH Cody
Smash Champion
Claim:
....
oh wait there IS no relevant justification
...YEAH NONE THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT
-people can't assess their own skill levels accurately
-giving advice that isn't the highest level won't help them beat good people in tourney
-argument defeated-
Justification:
....
oh wait there IS no relevant justification
^ this is the slippery slope fallacy and is therefore invalid
Evidence:
...YEAH NONE THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT
Bad idea for obvious reasons.
-people can't assess their own skill levels accurately
-giving advice that isn't the highest level won't help them beat good people in tourney
-argument defeated-
Okay, wow.Claim:
Justification:
....
oh wait there IS no relevant justification
^ this is the slippery slope fallacy and is therefore invalid
Evidence:
...YEAH NONE THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHTBad idea for obvious reasons.
-people can't assess their own skill levels accurately
-giving advice that isn't the highest level won't help them beat good people in tourney
-argument defeated-
1) I did give justification... which you acknowledged by arguing with it? You literally just said "You didn't give any justification for your point of view. Now, I'm going to go argue against the justification you gave."
2) It's not slippery slope because I'm not assuming what will happen. I'm saying it has, and does happen- all the time. I get texts, IMs, PMs, FB messages, etc from a large number of people, on a regular basis, asking why when they do *insert Ramin/Leon thing here* it never seems to work out for them.
3) People, unless they're bad to an extreme level (i.e. they're just joining/don't know about the competitive scene), are typically alright at judging their own skill level, assuming they genuinely want to improve. For simplicity's sake, I'm ignoring those that have "best kid on the block" syndrome as they don't think they need to improve and would be less inclined to look. So, ignoring those, and ignoring those that are fresh, we're left with people who know about the scene, the levels of play, and want to get better. While they may not be completely accurate, they still are likely to be able to judge themselves well.
4) There's a difference between the best advice you can give someone and the best advice there is. You don't tell someone who is still practicing spacing fairs about frame traps out of grounded grab releases by using dtilt. If you do, they'll get into a match and they'll try to do that stuff instead of focusing where they should be- on their fundamentals.
You don't tell a Snake main to learn to SDI his own C4 when recovering to make it more difficult for their opponent to footstool them until they know how to C4 recover consistently and are able to DI well enough to live consistently. Otherwise they run the very real risk of C4 recovering, trying to SDI, missing/pulling a Nikita instead of detonating C4/not being able to DI in the right direction because they're so focused on SDIing the C4.
Chi says you're a decent player so I'm going to assume that you know about C4 recovering-> tech-> Breverse grenade as a recovery option for Snake, yes? Would you tell a new player to just learn how to do it, or would you tell them that it's not important right now- focus on just teching the stage consistently?
I don't know about you, but everyone I know would certainly do the latter.... which is giving advice to the level of the player instead of in general.
Have you seriously never heard the phrase "You need to walk before you can run" before? Because that's all this is- you teach them what is appropriate for their level of play so that they can preform it, move up the levels, and then they learn what is then appropriate for their new level of play.
clowsui
Smash Legend
Agreement with above post goes here. I was in the process of typing something but CJ as usual says it better than me ;p
ScareMl
Smash Journeyman
i need a nunchuk screwdriver
I was going to... and then my car decided to break down on me over the weekend sooo ionno anymore. I'm gonna try to find a way though =DDis quest ***** dont know
You don **** wit cj in an argument or u get bodayyyyyed like dat LMFAO
Cj are you going to the nll????
https://www.google.com/search?q=eba...pw.r_qf.&fp=3a83623f79805564&biw=1280&bih=685i need a nunchuk screwdriver
Give me some time to gather my thoughts. It's been a long time since I last saw a listing of the logical fallacies used against something and me picking apart the fallacies too. For all I know, my objections may not even be plausible (to most). It's an explanation I will have to choose my words carefully for. ^_^'
Right now, I have stuff to attend to but I will elaborate.
Right now, I have stuff to attend to but I will elaborate.
∫unk
Smash Master
http://www.twitch.tv/junmkk
swing by if you're bored. top 3% league play. sometimes i run into smashers.
swing by if you're bored. top 3% league play. sometimes i run into smashers.
Nike.
Smash Hero
Watching Xspecials stream atm. Scarra threw the game at the end and special is soooo mad lol.
NH Cody
Smash Champion
LOL I'm not the one getting bodayyyyyed
I took this to PMs since people probably don't want to see this in the thread haha. But yeah, everyone is entitled to high level advice and they will be able to master different skills with practice.
Nike.
Smash Hero
WTF you suck, it's something to read in this thread for once ;_;
NH Cody
Smash Champion
lol okay, this is what I said
Keep it to pms, don't cause drama. Thanks.
NH Cody
Smash Champion
How was that causing drama? o_o I put it in a collapse tag since Nike and Espy wanted to see. It's a social thread xD
whatever. I'll talk about something "mod appropriate." What's your favorite matchup and why?
whatever. I'll talk about something "mod appropriate." What's your favorite matchup and why?
NH Cody
Smash Champion
Espyyyy. How have you been man? Do you have any recent vids of your Sonic?
Being anything but a hyper-eurotexaweeabootennislover is mod inappropriate. Being loving to your brethren is a tenet of our society.
ぱみゅ
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No, and that makes me sad
....afaik, Socal plays Marth dittos just for fun, few people actually use him in tournament (wating to be proven wrong again)
Zano
Smash Master
Marth dittos just for funNo, and that makes me sad
afaik, Socal plays Marth dittos just for fun, few people actually use him in tournament (wating to be proven wrong again)
just for fun
for fun
clowsui
Smash Legend
eric doesn't use marth at MK legal does he?
Ayce God
RIP Nova 9
anyone going to waba? marth ditto friendlys baby
Not really, no. But he'll randomly play him vs Mike if Mike is having a super hot day vs MK or something like that.
As a general rule though, no, Eric doesn't play Marth in MK legal often at all.
Raziek
Charging Limit All Day
For some reason I found that strikingly hilarious and laughed in the middle of a library.
Oh god they're looking at me.
Oh god they're looking at me.
Nike.
Smash Hero
Wait wut? CJ is great help, but he's not the only thing that helps me to improve.
Aaron, it probably should have said something along the lines of "When Nike and C.J. started talking a lot more, in conjunction with Nike going to tournaments frequently, Nike started improving at a much quicker pace than he had previously."
This is a stupid conversation. Someone tell me what I should write about- philosophy, smash (I'll take suggestions on specific topics), weight loss again, psychology, etc. I need ideas since I almost have a project done!
This is a stupid conversation. Someone tell me what I should write about- philosophy, smash (I'll take suggestions on specific topics), weight loss again, psychology, etc. I need ideas since I almost have a project done!
Ayce God
RIP Nova 9
quick question, how many people here store there bread in the refrigerator?
Mr-R
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How is that drama ?!!? I think I speak for everyone when I saw everyone is curious what quest and C.J's thought procces behind this is