(」・ω・)」 MARS la Marf in Smash 4 (／・ω・)／

[Reizilla]

Was probably game 3 where I was mashing up b and the stage flipped me off the edge.

 

[Anaky]

Match 4 Rei-Gun

1:52: Dont try air dodge through him, zone away from him, using fair if necessary then come in low, unless u see an opportunity to get back on stage safely.

2:13: You could have waited abit to grab the ledge so he wouldnt punish you, unless you were trying to hit him with the upb then fair enough.

2:42: Same here, you put urself in a messed up position.

3:45: Could have faired him, but you air dodged.

Overall nice consistancy with the grab release spikes, other than that i think its just a case of making the right chocies to punish MK and making the right decisions when recovering.

 

[Reizilla]

I think those two times, I was just thinking that I didn't want to get hit by down air and gimped. I do have a tendency to get antsy and up b early when in the moment though.

 

[En.Ee.Oh]

dude, someone replace steel's original frame data post for christ sakes LMAO

shayas is all the way on the last page -__-

wow shaya you don't have shield adv QWTDFFESADYDYUGYU89

 

[Albert.]

Seibrik let ADHD take him to FD because ADHD thought it would be an auto-win, and then so he didn't play it like it could have been an auto-loss.

 

[En.Ee.Oh]

why did u post that here

 

[Shaya]

wow shaya you don't have shield adv QWTDFFESADYDYUGYU89

Oh I do, I have it all in an excel spreadsheet. I'm really really bad. I'm really really sorry.

I could sit down and fix it all up if I set aside like an hour or two for it.

 

[En.Ee.Oh]

it's cool i did it myself, and all of the marth's who matter probably already have it on hand


yes im a d.ck

 

[Reizilla]

I want to matter. Where is it?

 

[En.Ee.Oh]

shaya u need to have this type of data up there

DB1
out on 4
-16 on block (virtually safe on block from tipper range)
-2 if sidestepped ON THE FRAME
+4 if rolled ON THE FRAME

maybe marth's would start taking it srs

 

[Reizilla]

What do you mean by if sidestepped/rolled? Wouldn't that be character specific?

 

[Nike.]

Genesis pools got released.
I bumped the Genesis thread Mike made and listed the marth pools lol

 

[Exdeath]

+4 if rolled ON THE FRAME

More like 0 vs. MK a.k.a. you just frame trapped yourself.

 

[En.Ee.Oh]

What do you mean by if sidestepped/rolled? Wouldn't that be character specific?

yeah i use it as a gauge tho

for example, if you do it at max range.. even if they got like.. a +6 frame adv or some ****, you have to take into account exactly how far away you are, DB1 is deceptively long as ****

granted it doesn't actually do anything from that far away, it's just a scare tactic

same **** applies with rolling but that's a tighter situation because it depends on where u use it to bait them how close they end up to you after the roll/the chars roll properties

 

[En.Ee.Oh]

More like 0 vs. MK a.k.a. you just frame trapped yourself.

who approaches a non-dashing mk with db1? c'mon son

 

[Reizilla]

Alright, that's pretty much what I figured. Just making sure.

I need to start looking into this stuff more...

 

[Exdeath]

who approaches a non-dashing mk with db1? c'mon son

Mampam tries to out-space/approach me with DB.

 

[PEACE7]

Yooo release that ****

 

[Shaya]

[04:12] hiyashaya: i need
[04:12] hiyashaya: the best marth videos with the best mind gamesssss STAT
[04:12] hiyashaya: so I can quickly absorb because I'm not going to be able to play the game at all
[04:12] hiyashaya: before the TOURNAMENT OF DESTINy
[04:12] hiyashaya: which if I win Ill get $1000
[04:12] hiyashaya: :3
[04:12] kadajj90: you just killed me why I ulted in to save a teammate on league
[04:12] kadajj90: ...
[04:12] Meebo Message: kadajj90 is offline
[04:12] hiyashaya: ><
[04:12] hiyashaya: IM SORRY

 

[Nike.]

Shaya hath smited The Great Kadaj.

 

[En.Ee.Oh]

[04:12] hiyashaya: i need
[04:12] hiyashaya: the best marth videos with the best mind gamesssss STAT
[04:12] hiyashaya: so I can quickly absorb because I'm not going to be able to play the game at all
[04:12] hiyashaya: before the TOURNAMENT OF DESTINy
[04:12] hiyashaya: which if I win Ill get $1000
[04:12] hiyashaya: :3
[04:12] kadajj90: you just killed me why I ulted in to save a teammate on league
[04:12] kadajj90: ...
[04:12] Meebo Message: kadajj90 is offline
[04:12] hiyashaya: ><
[04:12] hiyashaya: IM SORRY

mindgames are usually opponent specific, what you need to do is practice


scrub

 

[En.Ee.Oh]

Mampam tries to out-space/approach me with DB.

"Who" in actuality was referring to relevance.

I rest my case.

 

[Roxas M]

Yooo release that ****

This. The more things to read up on the better.

 

[Shaya]

mindgames are usually opponent specific, what you need to do is practice


scrub

By mind games I mean mix ups.

And I PRACTICE IN MY MIND.

 

[Reizilla]

So much ****, I love it.

 

[VietGeek]

mix-ups are cool

but i've always thought of marth as a character with little viable mix-ups

instead he has tons of stupid gimmicks that are opponent specific

but that's just me

 

[Shaya]

by mixups I mean random stupid gimmicks that Mr.R used to get away with and the even more random stupid gimmicks mikehaze does which makes me moist with from time to time.

 

[V]

I view marth as a punisher. Wait for your opponent's commitment and mixups aren't necessary (to an extent). Mixups are only necessary if you're doing the approaching. Marth is too good when he camps (I obvisously know we can't camp everybody, but the ones we can I think we destroy)

 

[Exdeath]

"Who" in actuality was referring to relevance.

I rest my case.

Then specify better next time.

 

[Reizilla]

Anyone know how all the Marths did today?

 

[Nike.]

Killock made it out of the first round of pools :]

EDIT: Results of Pools round1
http://vgbootcamp.com/content.php?61-Genesis-2-Pool-Results

I hope they release the round2 spread sheet before starting it tmrw.

 

[Albert.]

There is no gimmick too stupid.

I've gotten away with a dozen different Dolphin slashes that made absolutely no sense at the time... because the opponent was scared that I wasn't scared.

 

[Nike.]

Mike got first in his pool
Zex tied with 3 players for 2nd, idk how there handling that
(might let all advance and one pool in round 2 will have an extra player)
Killock got second
Punishment Divine got third in his pool
Bladewise got second AND HE BEAT SHAKY

I think Round 2 Pools is going to be:

• 96 Players total
• 16 Pools, top3 make it out
• two 1-seeds, two 2-seeds, two 3-seeds in each pool
• Creates a 48 man bracket

Round 2 Pools is going to be superrrrr stacked.

 

[Zano]

I hope more than just mikehaze makes it out of round 2 of pools. Go everyone!

 

[PEACE7]

Off to tourny wish me luck ppl

 

[Reizilla]

Hype. Good luck to everyone!

 

[Nike.]

Pool 22
Kiraflax
Zex*
T-block*
Staz*

*three-way tie



Anybody know what's being done about this?

I got a text from T-block last night saying that though he beat Zex 2-0 the first time they played, Zex beat him in their tiebreaker. He also said he got second within the tiebreaker, earning him third seed overall and him a spot in R2. So based on this list, I would assume the seeds are in the right order, with Staz not advancing.

So looks like Zex is good

 

[Anaky]

I dont even know who T-block and Staz are, Zex should **** his pool. And he needs to psot on Smashboards.

 

[V]

Idk why the majority of CA is gung-ho on AIB that site sucks lol

 

[Reizilla]

Agreed. I believe T-block is PT. Unless he has a secondary, that's pretty surprising...