(」・ω・)」 MARS la Marf in Smash 4 (／・ω・)／

[∫unk]

One of the weaker hitboxes cancels the tornado while Marth gets hit by one of the tornado hits that doesn't cause damage.

i experienced this today, trying DS against tornado

it's not reliable at all lol and having a fresh DS is important

 

[Reizilla]

i experienced this today, trying DS against tornado

it's not reliable at all lol and having a fresh DS is important

I think MK has to be slightly above and a bit in front of Marth to actually get hit by DS and Marth still get hit out of DS but not take damage. I was watching Neo do it a few times to, i think Plank in some old videos the other day.

EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JmklgxOfNM around 1:50 he does it. Looks like he just gets hit, but he only takes one percent as opposed to giving six percent, so it seems fair. not sure if he could've gotten punished were the platform not there. didn't take the time to notice any other instances, but i think there are a few more.

 

[phi1ny3]

Usually going with something that sounds like what they would name a new energy drink, or an infection. That works pretty well.

You could try historical figures, but you gotta be careful. It's gotta be obscure enough so you don't come across as "unexposed" to your history, but enough fame so that people don't go "???"

Then there's the doubles factor of the name, if it's epic, it usually has a good theme to be used in a doubles name, even if you usually don't want to use it that way.

 

[Terios the Hedgehog]

I'll be sure to try that against my next MK :<

On the topic of names, I've always found that something slightly stereotypical towards your own race works pretty well as something original. Ex: El Taco Loco (Mexican)

I've used Ragin' Caucasian. Get @ me.

 

[Shaya]

Wimsfi

Wifi + MarthShadow

YEAAAH

Wimsfi is an epic name.

Also that OLD OLD OLD OLD OLDDDDDDDDDDDDDD VIDEO of Neo had him shield.
i.e. he up b'd out of shield. not inside the tornado itself.

Also any and all up b tricks do not work against M2K's tornado.
TRU FAX.

 

[Mr-R]

rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

 

[Shaya]

fine.

WIMSFIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Wimsfir

pronounced WimsPh1r3.
You'll be all deep about your secret fetish with Roy, everyone will respect you more than neo dawg.

 

[Reizilla]

W

Also that OLD OLD OLD OLD OLDDDDDDDDDDDDDD VIDEO of Neo had him shield.
i.e. he up b'd out of shield. not inside the tornado itself.
.

Wait, so that's not what we were talking about the whole time? I thought everyone figured out a long time ago that trying to up B out of the tornado itself was a stupid idea...

 

[∫unk]

It's not stupid it's just bad big difference

 

[LFL]

Can someone wifi me today? I need a lot of MK and ROB practice

 

[Mr-R]

ok guys once again, what to CP against mk when SV/FD isn't allowed and WHY

 

[∫unk]

mike goes battlefield i think

 

[adumbrodeus]

Battlefield sucks against a good MK. What's your stagelist?


As in what are the available counter-picks in your area.

 

[_Kadaj_]

how good of a cp do you guys think PS1 and castle siege are for marth?

 

[ChaosKnight]

i think its amazing :D

castle siege and PS1 are my favorite CPs


but what would a scrub like me know right ?

 

[∫unk]

Battlefield sucks against a good MK. What's your stagelist?


As in what are the available counter-picks in your area.

oh cause you know mike has never beaten a good MK

but i hear your theorycrafting is 4-0 vs m2k

 

[adumbrodeus]

oh cause you know mike has never beaten a good MK

OF COURSE NOT! [/sarcasm]


I think he's most comfortable with that stage. But from a purely technical level, it's much better for MK.

 

[∫unk]

trolling aside i think any neutral-like equivalent is good

small stages like YI are probably bad even though i still remember RoyR spiking Dojo there lol

 

[Punishment Divine]

trolling aside i think any neutral-like equivalent is good

small stages like YI are probably bad even though i still remember RoyR spiking Dojo there lol

YI to me is debatable against MK. If you're comfortable on the stage in general, you probably wouldn't mind going there in the matchup but I think Castle Siege and the 3 basic neutrals are all better choices in the matchup.

...in the matchup

 

[Rubberbandman]

Marthshadow, get something with R to end it to keep up with the tend of "R"s in the Marth community.

Roy_R, Mr.R, & (Insert Name Here)_R.

I really hate Castle Siege, but I guess I really need to practice there then. Kadaj, is Castle Siege even a counterpick around here?

 

[adumbrodeus]

Castle siege not a counterpick? Seriously? I haven't seen one ruleset that doesn't have it as a counter-pick cept early pound 4 which got fixed.

 

[Pierce7d]

I use Lylat. It's Marth's BEST stage vs MK.

 

[§leepy God]

♪ Quite the opposite for me. T_T †

♪ Then again, I've seen Meta Knight have a bad time against Marth there. †

 

[C.J.]

I use Lylat. It's Marth's BEST stage vs MK.

Ok... and why?

 

[adumbrodeus]

I use Lylat. It's Marth's BEST stage vs MK.

unfortunately I'd prefer to eat rusty nails then play on that stage...

 

[Shaya]

I use Lylat. It's Marth's BEST stage vs MK.

That's bull ****.
Lylat is the GAYEST STAGE to play MK on.

I'd rather ****ing play on Brinstar.
HIGH SCHOOL PRE-PUBESCENT RAGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Any good vids?

I've never actively tried Castle Siege, but I've had good luck on Pokemon Stadium.
Platforms there work a lot better for Marth than any other stage for stringing, the kewky edges let's Marth hit MK on the ledge with more safety, if an MK is ever under the lip of the ledge and you're on the edge I swear dair always tippers.
Low roof and sides have strengths and weaknesses, but MK dies stupidly low from tippers, utilt, upsmash, uair, nair, like you'll probably notice him dying a good 10-20% lower than BF/SV/FD
Many of the angles the transformations create work out for Marth (they also work out for MK but MK already has that auto-zoning in his moveset so eh).

 

[Roxas M]

so i'm probably gonna stick with zane until i find something better.

now i just need to learn the snake and DDD MU.....yay.

 

[Asimio]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRr84QRt8Nw, lol.

 

[Pr0phetic]

I'm so rusty @ Brawl, I haven't played in almost two weeks -_-
This will be interesting getting my Marth back up to speed

 

[_Kadaj_]

lol pierce get outta here you cant Gr him on that stage hardly at all

but I know why you say that tho

 

[∫unk]

the smash gods clearly didn't want larry winning

first the bracket... then the way larry lost to lain and chu...

im about to watch the hangover for the first time

coincidentally i may be slightly under the influence

 

[Player-3]

anyone wanna wifi

 

[Roxas M]

anyone wanna wifi

i will if you want.

 

[Player-3]

yehz

says your not on aim

so 1676 3322 3349

or get on aim
;-;

aim is player100718

 

[Rubberbandman]

Castle siege not a counterpick? Seriously? I haven't seen one ruleset that doesn't have it as a counter-pick cept early pound 4 which got fixed.

Bot like that, just I havent seen anyone in MD/VA cp with Castle Seige, ever.

 

[Shaya]

So, I got my sd card back, so now i can play brawlz.

So I did, and i had the debug/pause code still on.

So I went into training mode at 1/4th speed, and starting doing frame by frame of that.
And my god...
I want a 240fps TV. And a wii that can handle that manliness.

During Marth's dtilt, once the hitbox comes out, marth actually twists his wrist around in a really fine arc.

When Marth does his up smash, the sword/arm goes behind him and it "coils" around his body until Marth literally PIMPS HIS FIST with his spare hand whilst looking up and the sword is just being held up straight parellel to his "triangle" feet.
My god.
It looks
amazing.
my god.
why wiiiiiiii whyyyyyyyy, why technology in general whyyyyyyy, why human visual recognition abilities, whyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Marth actually grabs his sword with both hands during his up smash for a very brief period of time.

 

[Roxas M]

just finished wifi'ing player 3.
his falcon is too good. lol
but the xbox made everyone's friend lag come and make everything bad.

 

[Shaya]

Also guys, Marth's grab release to dair on meta knight ON STAGE is real

I dont know how I failed to do it in the past... but, yeah

Grab Release IASA: 29
Initiate FULL HOP*: 39 (refer as x)
Buffer Dair: x + 1
Hit: x + 11 (e.g. 50)

*full hop is holding onto jump the ENTIRE start up of the jump (4 frames).

Meta Knight can uair to hit you frame 52, and frame 53 he's invincible from his air dodge.
Meaning you only have frames 39-41 (3 frames) to initiate the full hop buffered dair.
Marth can buffer a dash on frame 28/29 to start dashing frame 30.

The 3 frame margin for error is shared between the dair and the buffered dash.
If you start to dash on frame 32, you will only be able to hit him on frame 52 by starting the buffered fh dair on frame 41.

Why didnt this work for me in the past? Full hops. Making sure you rise from the ground with forward momentum is probably a requirement I ignored too. I also ignored it because after the initial hype mikehaze brought he said "tyrant started consistantly getting out of it". :|

Also yada yada MK will die from a fresh dair off stage guaranteed at like 50%.

If you're practicing, MK lands on the ground on frame 56. So if you land it and MK doesn't bounce back up you're at least getting it on frame 55 or before.
Trying to do it properly ive gotten it before frame 56 like once out of 20

 

[Roxas M]

the timing for it is weird.

 

[∫unk]

wow i destroy you with falcon and then you dont say anything about mine but your hyping up player 3's falcon?

troll troll trol

hangover is a ******* good movie lol

i cant sign on aim for some reason its annoying