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  • The funny part about Wallace & Gromit and Shaun the Sheep seemingly being in the same universe is that it implies that there’s a significant area of England where everyone communicates only with unintelligible grunts and that’s seen as completely normal.
    I was just thinking about the gameplay implications of if a new DKC 2D platformer gave DK his coconut gun back.

    The way I’m imagining it, it does not fire in spurts as it fires only one coconut at a time before he must reload it; he reloads automatically even while rolling and stuff so it’s more of a simple short cooldown. But, if he shoots ‘ya, it’s gonna hurt: this coconut is hitscan and super satisfying to shoot enemies with. Furthermore, since it’s just that powerful, you can shoot downward for a double jump (again, limited by him reloading, so use it wisely!) It could also be used in level design by having you shoot buttons or targets to activate platforms and stuff. I’d imagine he can shoot upward while in a minecart section and stuff would be designed around that.

    I do have to admit that the idea that the gimmick of a new DKC would be marketed as “he has a gun now!!” is kinda amusing, even if it’s something that he had in a game years ago that’s just finally returning.
    If you’re wondering about my general platfighter tastes in terms of mechanics, I like a game where I can immediately intuitively perform a few very basic combos as pretty much every character in the roster, as that means I can casually try anyone I want. Being able to use a lot of characters without feeling like I have to lab them first makes it a lot more fun.

    Some games that succeed at this: Multiversus, Slap City, NASB1, Smash Flash 2
    Some games that fail at this: Smash Ultimate, Rivals of Aether (both of them)

    I haven’t tried NASB2 yet.
    Janx_uwu
    Janx_uwu
    Smash Ultimate is kind of annoying in that you need like four youtube tutorials to start maybe capitalizing on a character's strengths.

    Rivals 2 I disagree, because Orcane and Clairen and the elephant guy just feel very intuitive, i'm not sure why. His aerials especially just feel amazing to string together.

    However, I also felt like I couldn't do anything with my former main Kragg, he felt awful to me. So I also agree with you on Rivals 2. Mixed feelings on that roster.
    Wario Wario Wario
    Wario Wario Wario
    I haven't played Rivals 2, and 1 never really clicked with me in the same way as Ludosity's games or even the early/fan Smash games - but I will say that yes, rudimentary combos are really the maker-or-breaker for me. If I have the tools to drag a foe from the left of a stage to the middle at low percent, I'm most likely good.
    It’d be funny if they opted to just not reveal any characters at all for the next Smash pre-release. All pre-release footage would just be of stages and items (but not ATs) and modes and stuff, just to drive we speculators crazy.
    If Smash were to ever have any kind of story mode again, I still think the best way to do it would be to have it sorta Miitopia-style where you can cast any playable character in any role. Anyone can be the main protagonists, anyone can be the big bad and their henchmen, anyone can be the notable NPCs along the way. (You could also cast every character as a Mii Fighter if you want it to actually be basically Miitopia.) Some advantages:
    • It prevents all the cutscenes from being easily uploaded to Youtube, since every playthrough will be different. People will still upload stuff of course but they can’t upload every combination of characters.
    • It scales way better with a large roster. It’s pretty tough to make a logical plot from a game with tons of characters, but this would cut it down to a reasonable quantity per playthrough, and the player’s favorites will always be present.
    • Cutscenes probably consist of characters using existing in-battle animations paired with written dialogue (or narration for silent characters.) It’d be a lot to write, but it might still be cheaper than CGI cutscenes (but idk). Might be impractical to have actual specific character interactions instead of general ones, though. Hopefully they can at least add a few.
    • It adds a lot of replayability since you can pick different characters each time.
    • It fits the old idea of the fighters being toys pretty well. With your real IRL toys you can put anyone in any role as you please in your made-up stories, after all.
    MBRedboy31
    MBRedboy31
    In terms of boss fights (the main henchmen and the big bad,) I was thinking that they’d be the actual character fighting with “attachments” to their back that gives them extra attacks and mobility. Like, one henchman could be equipped with a jetpack and shoulder rocket launchers, one could be backed up by ghostly swords, the big bad could have shadowy tendrils that fire lasers, ect. It’d be a nice mix of having the bosses be unique but also vary greatly depending on what characters you picked for the roles.
    Perkilator
    Perkilator
    This would also lend itself pretty well to the concept of a roguelike Adventure Mode. Rougelikes have you attempting multiple runs, so this gameplay style and Miitopia-styled cutscenes sounds like a match made in heaven!
    Can I drop my Kirby lore theory here? It’s likely incorrect but whatever.
    So, near the end of Forgotten Land’s main plot, Fecto Forgo (speaking through Leon’s mouth) says that the people of the Forgotten Land left to go to a “land of dreams” or something like that. There’s many ways to interpret that; perhaps it merely describes the wondrousness of the place they moved to. Some might interpret that as referring to Dream Land on Pop Star, but I doubt that. My theory here is, if you take it literally, they moved to a land that’s literally in a dream. This would be easily disproven if the Japanese text says something different, but I’m too lazy to look that up right now.

    If you assume that they might’ve lived on Shiver Star at some point in the past, making this land of dreams the overall universe where Kirby games take place, then the entire main Kirby dimension is the product of some ludicrously powerful dreaming entity. I’m going to assume this entity is someone we haven’t seen yet although it’d be kinda funny if it were Kirby himself or something.

    There’s proof that such a dimension can exist that is seen in Forgotten Land itself; the postgame area, Isolated Isles: Forgo Dreams was dreamed into existence by Fecto Forgo, and it is accessed with the same star-shaped portals that are used to travel between the Forgotten Land and Kirby’s universe. Fecto Forgo is clearly a much weaker entity than whatever would’ve created the Kirby universe, though, as their dream dimension is very unstable and consists entirely of misplaced chunks of existing Forgotten Land terrain.

    One other point to make is that time seems to pass much more slowly in Kirby’s world than in the Forgotten Land, which would make sense if it’s a dream dimension. Kirby got sucked into the portal in the intro only a few seconds later than everyone else, but arrived in the FL weeks later. And, in the ending, after Elfilin seemingly sacrifices himself, Clawroline had to help him heal, which logically would take days or weeks, but from Kirby’s perspective it was only about 30 seconds.

    Anyway, if this turns out to be true, I’d be very interested to know what the actual god of the Kirby universe looks like.
    Have you ever really thought about Professor Chops (the checkpoint pig in Retro’s DKC duology) as a character? He’s pretty much omnipresent in those two games, but despite that it feels like he’s just kinda there. He didn’t even have an actual name in his debut in Returns (he was just the ”tutorial pig”.)

    What is he a professor of? How is he always ahead of DK & co., no matter how treacherous the terrain is? (Unless he’s the Nurse Joy of DKC; there’s a hidden room in Tropical Freeze containing several lookalikes of him, implying there could be a different one at each checkpoint.) Why is he helping DK? He doesn’t seem to be a close friend of the Kongs since they never seem to invite him over to their house, so I’d assume he’s either mainly interested in saving DK Isle as a whole or just really likes maintaining checkpoints and timing time trials.

    Anyway I think it’d be interesting if they developed him a little more. He doesn’t need super deep lore or anything, but I wouldn’t mind if he had some optional dialogue somewhere so we can get to know him a bit better.
    A cool detail I like in DKC Returns is that the first level of each world (except the first one and the postgame one) starts with a little bit of the previous world’s theming to show how the two areas are adjacent to each other. For example, Beach begins with a bit of Jungle, Ruins begins with a bit of Beach, ect. Obviously not every game can do this (Tropical Freeze doesn’t do it since each world is a completely separate island instead of being adjacent) but it is something I’d like to see more often in games.
    Assuming the Joycon mouse thing is true, I’m imagining Nintendo and/or third parties selling an accessory that’s pretty much just a flat board that you strap to your arm, so you can use it as a mousepad while standing up. It’s kinda like that thing Yu-gi-oh characters use to play their cards except it’s just a mousepad.
    can Nintendo please outright confirm that the Joycons are mice so I don’t have to begin my posts like this?
    I’m just thinking about ways the optical sensors could be used beyond just as a mouse.

    If you point both Joycons at the TV remote-control style, the optical sensor of each Joycon will be pointing at the distinctively colored underbelly of the other Joycon, which, when combined with the accelerometer, could result in way more accurate motion controls as each Joycon would have a better frame of reference. I don’t know if mouse optical sensors are capable of seeing anything at that range, though.

    Also, they could use the optical sensor to bring back the E-Reader. I highly doubt they would in this age of online downloads and amiibo cards, but they could.
    Can someone tell me if the joycon mouse thing is actually confirmed or not? You can see what we’ve been assuming are optical sensors in the trailer, and there’s a part where you can see the Joycons being moved around on their sides, but nothing in the trailer outright states what their purpose is.

    On a side note, the fact that both Joycons have this possibly-an-optical-sensor-but-we-don’t-actually-know-what-it-is means there’s a possibility of there being games where you dual wield computer mice. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a PC game that uses two mice.
    KneeOfJustice99
    KneeOfJustice99
    iirc the amiga port of lemmings supported simultaneous multiplayer with each player having a seperate mouse, which seems plausible as a basis for this sort of thing. but yeah it's a very rare control scheme. totally a lot of potential in it though. honestly i'm kind of excited to see if we end up seeing any interesting gameplay concepts for mouse controls coming out of this because i think there's totally something in them - especially with some nintendo flair!

    ...knowing our luck, though, it'll probably end up being something like a thermal camera that gets used by about three games.
    I kinda miss when Miis used to frequently show up in third party games, not just Nintendo’s own games. The only 3P game I can think of on the Switch with Mii support (aside from games that use your Switch profile icon and thus technically support Miis) is Go Vacation, and that’s a port of a Wii game that also had Mii support.
    MBRedboy31
    MBRedboy31
    It'll technically have Miis in some form due to backward compatibility with Switch 1 games, but it's possible that Switch 2 games won't be able to interact with that at all. Miis in the Wii U's Wii and Wii U modes are completely isolated from each other, so it wouldn't be out of the question for Switch 1 Miis to be isolated to the console's Switch 1 mode.

    I wonder if Nintendo could ever make a new avatar that's as good as Miis but feels different and fresh. Miitopia on Switch had great customization, but there's no way they'd have that as the main avatars on the console, given that Miitopia is strictly singleplayer and the main console avatars would be usable in multiplayer games too.
    Wario Wario Wario
    Wario Wario Wario
    Honestly, all this "will Miis still exist?" speculation makes me wonder what would happen if Smash wanted to do EIH in a post-Mii world.
    MBRedboy31
    MBRedboy31
    They'd just have to make their own Mii Maker. Some DS and 3DS games included a custom Mii maker, so it wouldn't be unheard of.

    (Although, if the console has some other kind of avatars, they could theoretically put those in the roles of Brawler, Swordfighter, and Gunner and consider the veteran characters to be the three roles, not the Miis. Or, they could even bring back the three roles as OC's without any existing avatar design tied to them at all, given that they use the Smash series symbol. I don't know if that's how they'd think of them or not but I have to at least consider the possibility.)
    Today I found out that Multiversus' Wacky Weekend has a mode that's based on Divekick. You are restricted to doing only down airs, you cannot walk on the ground (so you can only move around by jumping,) and every hit instakills without even launching the enemy, they just explode.

    It's the most absurd thing I've ever seen in a platform fighter, but that is the kind of thing keeps things fresh. Smash really ought to lean into this kind of chaotic side-mode design sometime. You might not play it often (let's be real, there's no way it's balanced in the slightest, even by casual standards, and it'd surely become very unfun if people optimize it too much) but it's the type of thing that lets you utilize classic movesets in new ways.
    Ever think it’s a bit weird when a game is about traveling to a bunch of different planets and each level is merely called “Planet (name)“ even though the planets are seemingly as large as Earth (since they have similar gravity and curvature) and probably have a large variety of countries and cultures? Imagine being an extraterrestrial landing in any particular city on Earth and just assuming that literally all of the planet is exactly like the spot you landed in. All they have to do to avoid this is call the level “Planet (name): (Location on planet)”. This would also open up other areas of the planet to being visited, either later in the game or in sequels.

    Games where the planets are so unnaturally small that you can actually explore the entire thing are an exception, of course. I wonder what it’d be like to live among a bunch of tiny planets instead of one big one.
    PLATINUM7
    PLATINUM7
    The games that come to mind when I think of travelling to different planets are the Ratchet and Clank games and the levels are named with both the planet and location, typically with the specific location named first. So I can't say I ever really thought about what you brought up.

    What I have thought about though is that you don't often see fictional planets with varied environments like on Earth. They just end up being a jungle planet, a beach planet, a lava planet, a futuristic city planet etc..
    I have to admit: I haven’t played Smash Ultimate online in a long time. I’m not entirely sure, but I don’t think I’ve played it online since before Joker released. Throughout the DLC release period, I just played new characters in singleplayer and local multiplayer (and watched lots of livestreams of other people playing them,) and I’ve collected every Spirit in the game, including the ones from the most recent Spirit events.

    I played tons of online Smash 4 (both 3DS and Wii U,) my favorite mode in those being For Fun 2v2. The fact that Ultimate has no equivalent mode is probably the biggest reason I just don’t bother. I know you can join arenas, or set up quickplay with casual rules, but, nah. For quickplay in particular, why would I want to play ranked casual Smash? Doesn’t making it ranked ruin the entire point, plus it’d risk accidentally sucking in players who just want to play comp style? No wonder the platform fighter mode I play most nowadays is Multiversus unranked 2v2s.
    You may have seen Akedo toys at Target or whatever. They’re small figures that sit on a base that lets you rapidly spin them back and forth to fight another figure on another base. The goal is to hit the other figure’s head, causing a “Splitstrike,” which causes their torso to split in half, which is about the closest they can get to an E-rated Fatality.

    There are also licensed Sonic figures in the line. Since Sega obviously didn’t want their characters murdering each other, their torsos merely lean back when their heads are struck.

    The funny part is when you make a Sonic character fight a “regular” character. Tails has killed a man…
    I’m currently playing Hello Kitty Island Adventure using a free Apple Arcade trial and it’s driving me crazy that this character’s name is “Wish me mell”.

    It’s not that her name is a play on “wish me well,” nor that her name has not-name-like words in it (given I’m used to being around characters like “Hello Kitty” and “My Melody“.) It’s specifically that her name is ”Wish me mell” and not “Wish me Mell.” Is “mell” not a proper noun? I get it being capitalized like that for her franchise‘s name, but, seemingly unlike in her own franchise, the game always uses the full name “Wish me mell” and never just “Mell.” She has a bunch of friends in the game too that have similar character design stylization to her but they all have normal names. It’s like going to the toy store and if they they sold a “Tickle me elmo“ as though the character’s name is just “elmo” in lowercase.
    I counted down the new year listening to this:

    (And then, as always, I got to be terrified by the neighbors setting off fireworks and/or firing off their guns, as they always do every year, even though both of those things are very illegal here. No amount of heavy metal being blasted into my ears will protect me from that…)
    You know what’d be a cool ”surprise pick” for Smash that I rarely see people discuss here? Promoting Master Hand to a playable character. He has a long-standing legacy with perfect attendance within Smash, he has ongoing relevance, he has a super unique silhouette, and he has moveset potential that nobody else would have. Everyone who’s played any amount of singleplayer in any Smash game knows who Master Hand is, so he definitely wouldn‘t be a nobody. Don’t tell me it wouldn’t be fun punching people with a giant fist, blasting them with fingerguns, and more.

    I know a lot of people look down upon Smash’s original characters, but Master Hand has clearly been around long enough to be a bit more than just some thing they threw in to be a boss.

    On a side note, having him as a boss feels kinda stale to me since he’s been the boss for so long, and adding some new moves each game doesn’t change that. Having him be a regular character would be really refreshing.

    Crazy Hand could logically be a semiclone or Echo, but I‘m not sure if they’d want do that since it might get confusing if a match has both Master Hand and Crazy Hand in their default skins.
    What currently interests me more than Switch 2 speculation is what Nintendo has planned for the rest of the Switch 1’s lifespan. I wonder if they’ll have a Switch 1 direct that’s well before the Switch 2 reveal so that those games get a little bit of attention before being overshadowed.
    MBRedboy31
    MBRedboy31
    They can’t just sell the Switch forever, though. Eventually (I’m not sure when, surely Nintendo has the data,) everyone who wants a Switch will have one. Eventually they’re going to have to release an updated console to drive up hardware sales, and thus face the inevitability of rising budgets and development times. I wonder what Nintendo has in mind to counter that.
    Quillion
    Quillion
    They're absolutely not going to sell it forever, dgmw, but they're probably going to hold it off beyond what they originally planned.
    MBRedboy31
    MBRedboy31
    Possibly, yeah, we’ll see I guess. They’re probably going to have to start revealing stuff for Switch 1 soon either way since we don’t know much besides DKC Returns in January and Metroid Prime 4 still being on the way.
    I think my most wanted Smash stage is still a Tetris Effect stage. I greatly desire the beautiful particle spam and the beautiful reactive music (plus I also want the Giant Particle Effect Space Whale to bless my Smash matches.)

    I was thinking it’d have a few different backgrounds based on the music selection, kind of like Mementos but more drastic. Tetris Effect does have a secret unlockable GB Tetris level that could be the background for classic Tetris songs (including both of the existing Brawl remixes,) for people who want retro Tetris representation.

    Each of the backgrounds in Tetris Effect’s Journey Mode goes through 3 variations as you progress through the level, so in Smash the backgrounds would change as time runs out in time matches, or as stocks decrease in stock matches. The GB Tetris background also has 3 variations, if you were wondering.

    Since the visuals of this stage would be more prevalent than the mechanics, I think the Tetris blocks would be a bit behind the stage, and a small percentage of them would have soft platforms attached. So, you get a dynamically changing map without it being incredibly intrusive.
    What If™ Marvel Rivals had a guest character from The Incredibles since Disney owns both?

    It’s interesting to think about since an Incredibles character would need to be very, very heavily redesigned to not look super weird next to the other characters; their outfit would need to be much more maximalistic and their overall stylization (how their face and proportions look) would also need to be way different.

    I’m personally looking more outside the titular family for this; I’m thinking Frozone mainly, although Bomb Voyage or even The Underminer sound cool too.

    I don’t actually think this is a good idea (I assume the playerbase obviously wants to see more Marvel characters over guests) but yeah, it’s mainly a thought exercise in character design.
    Janx_uwu
    Janx_uwu
    Me and Knee were talking the other day about how cool Honey Lemon from Big Hero 6 would be (technically not a crossover character, though I do hope her default skin takes notes from the movie). Imagine having three or four different bubbles as your special moves, and combining different ones with each other will produce different outcomes. A fun one would be hiding a teammate in a dome of titanium, temporarily shielding them when they're on low health or holding point solo.
    fogbadge
    fogbadge
    If they go with comic honey lemon she could do nearly anything
    MBRedboy31
    MBRedboy31
    I was also thinking about Big Hero 6 but it didn’t seem like as much of a challenge to imagine outfits for compared to The Incredibles’ ultra-minimalist suits.
    I always thought it was a bit weird back in the day when some :ultbanjokazooie: supporters were surprised or disappointed when they turned out to be a zoner. The Banjo platformers are very slow and methodical, focused far more on exploration and on puzzling out which of your abilities will work for any given situation than on fast-paced platforming skill (with some exceptions such as in-game minigames and stuff.) As such, a zoner play style feels very well suited for them in a kind of abstract gameplay feel sense.
    My favorite niche obscure feature of the Wii U GamePad is that it has a tiny Wii Sensor Bar built into it (within the area that also includes its camera.) As such, if you want to play Wii games off-TV you can point the remote at the GamePad to use the pointer. Since the Wii’s main menu can only be navigated using the pointer, playing Wii games off-tv wouldn’t work at all without it!
    Recently I’ve been thinking about Sportsmate’s moveset potential and it actually sounds pretty fun. I should probably make the Sportsmate thread whenever the next Smash is revealed so I can post a full moveset on it even though I’d probably be the only supporter. Here’s the most notable ideas I have:

    Neutral Special is Serve, where Sportsmates lightly tosses a ball up in the air, and, like when you cancel Wii Fit Trainer’s side special, you can hit the ball away with any other attack. The ball Sportsmate uses is from a fairly long list and the move cycles through them, and each ball has different properties.
    One of the balls Sportsmate can use is the soccer ball. You know, the absolutely ginormous soccer ball. It would deal less damage, but good luck to your opponents avoiding that!

    Up Special is Spike, where they jump up and then you can spike enemies downward by pressing special again. But, if you start the move while near the ball spawned by Serve, the move becomes Dunk, where they jump holding the ball and dunk it downward on enemies’ heads when you press the button again. We’ll get goofy stuff like dunking on the enemy with a golf ball or a tennis ball or whatever, or even dunking on them with the aforementioned ludicrously enormous soccer ball (although it’s probably most powerful when you actually use a basketball for it.)

    Side Special is Header. If you weren’t aware of what Soccer headers in Switch Sports look like, Sportsmate launches themself forward like a missile, Luigi-style. You can’t charge it, though.

    Down Special is Bowl, which is what it sounds like. You have to press the B button again to make Sportsmate release the bowling ball, and depending on when you release it, you can alter its trajectory. Pressing the button really late makes the ball go up in the air, pressing it in the middle maximizes forward speed, and pressing it incredibly early makes it awkwardly drop behind Sportsmate (a great way to “WOW!” your friends!)

    Sportsmate has a minor gimmick where parrying an attack is used with the Charge Sword from Chambara, and successfully doing so buffs their next attack that uses a Chambara sword to have slightly more power and better frame data.
    You know those shoes they make only for little kids that have flashing lights that activate whenever the shoe impacts the ground? Why don’t they have those as cosmetics in videogames more often? Yes, it looks ridiculous when you give those to characters who aren’t little kids, but looking ridiculous is often part of the fun of videogame cosmetics.
    A very minor gripe I have about Balatro is that the Vouchers you can buy have all have a perforation line on the top, like you’re supposed to tear off the top of the voucher to activate its effect for the rest of the run, yet that never happens. You just shove the voucher in your pocket and never tear off the line. It’d be a fairly satisfying animation each time you buy a voucher, right? Maybe it wouldn‘t actually look that nice with the game’s animation style, but IDK.
    I haven’t actually played Balatro, but I’ve watched a whole lot of gameplay of it.
    The idea of self-destructs in platform fighters is kinda weird when you think about it from the perspective of other fighting games (or at least ones that don’t have any kind of ring-out mechanic,) isn’t it?

    Imagine if you were playing Street Fighter or Tekken or whatever and there were a mechanic where you can accidentally punch yourself in the face, KO’ing yourself instantly regardless of how much health you have.
    Have you ever thought about your interests in terms of the six MySims interests?
    Tasty, Fun, Cute, Geeky, Studious, and Spooky

    Each MySim has a main interest, a secondary interest, and an anti-interest.

    Geeky is definitely my main interest, Studious or Cute is my secondary, and Spooky is probably my anti-interest. What are yours?
    I beat Pseudoregalia last night. I didn’t find the upgrade that unlocks the map until after I had found pretty much every other important item (not 100% though) and I was on my way to the final boss. I wonder how different my playthrough would’ve been if I had found the map earlier…
    Is it weird that I’ve never been interested in trying Overwatch but I might try Marvel Rivals sometime? I got some games from the Steam sale that I want to play first, but yeah.

    From watching gameplay, Marvel Rivals’ third person camera seems far less disorienting (I can’t really tell what’s going on in Overwatch gameplay I’ve seen.) And/or maybe, possibly, probably it’s also that I’ve thought something about Overwatch and its sequel have been cringe the entire time and I didn’t and still don’t want to interact with that?
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