Guide Zelda Social: But also the FE Heroes Internet Cafe

[S.F.L.R_9]

I'm sad that I missed Macchi going on about Zelda being mid tier and WFT being high tier... Oh well :')

Anyone wanna play?

 

[evmaxy54]

Spoiler: smirk

:3

 

[Jaguar360]

@ Lavani I've been finding Pisces on ninja Zelda to have some comboability onstage. Needles --> Pisces works at certain distances and F-throw --> Pisces can still work in some situations. B-throw --> Pisces is an escapable, but worthwhile combo at high percents that kills well. It's not like Sheik has kill confirms anyway aside from Gravity Grenade --> U-smash / B-air, so the combo being escapable isn't really that big of a deal. I think Bouncing Fish = Pisces in terms of viability.

And I'm digging the shield damage on Penetrating Needles. I haven't broken a shield yet, but the pressure that it puts is nice. It's also nice that the speed and cooldown are pretty much the same as Needle Storm's with the only drawback being the fewer needles.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm sad that I missed Macchi going on about Zelda being mid tier and WFT being high tier... Oh well :')

Anyone wanna play?

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

This gif is perfect and I'm saving it kk. I'll make the room

 

[Lavani]

@ Lavani I've been finding Pisces on ninja Zelda to have some comboability onstage. Needles --> Pisces works at certain distances and F-throw --> Pisces can still work in some situations. B-throw --> Pisces is an escapable, but worthwhile combo at high percents that kills well. It's not like Sheik has kill confirms anyway aside from Gravity Grenade --> U-smash / B-air, so the combo being escapable isn't really that big of a deal. I think Bouncing Fish = Pisces in terms of viability.

And I'm digging the shield damage on Penetrating Needles. I haven't broken a shield yet, but the pressure that it puts is nice. It's also nice that the speed and cooldown are pretty much the same as Needle Storm's with the only drawback being the fewer needles.

I guess I'll play around with it myself later (sliced my thumb, can't smash atm), I'm still quite skeptical about it due to the fact that it sends opponents behind you; even if needles>Pisces combos, it'll just throw the opponent onto the stage instead of killing them if you connect needles in an edgeguard situation, for example.

A shield break probably isn't that likely yeah, but the pressure's definitely real. When you think about it, being capped at 3 needles with stronger needles just means you don't spend as long charging the move to max!

 

[Twili]

Gurl, I stay up until 4 sometimes and even then there are times I don't fall asleep until 5. You sleep schedule has nothing on mine.

Boi. I stay up until 4, 5, and sometimes 6am every night when I work and get up at 10am (if I work earlier than 11 I still generally get 4-5 hours of sleep). On nights before days off, I don't sleep until 6-7 and beyond depending on who's up with me on skype. Last night I was really tired it seems, and randomly passed out while drawing. \o/

Plus it's been super quiet on skype for half a week now.. and I don't like it. I miss my friends..

 

[Seki_]

I'm a bit curious, is there a kill % chart for farore's on every character? I know there's all kinds of tech and stuff that would make it mostly irrelevant (see Zelda's 45%-Death combo) but it'd be interesting/useful to know. If one doesn't exist I'll probably sit down and make one

 

[Lavani]

Twili's sleep schedule sounds like mine

 

[Lorde]

Is it weird that I listen to songs on repeat for days straight and still don't get sick of them?

Like, I've listened to the entire album One Thousand Forms of Fear over 300 times and I still love every song on it as much as I did when I first heard it. And then there was the time I listened to the song You Will Be Loved over 1000 times. It's a 5 minute long song, so that's over 83 hours of listening to only that song.

idk why I brought this up but I felt it was necessary

 

[Deleted member]

Is it weird that I listen to songs on repeat for days straight and still don't get sick of them?

Like, I've listened to the entire album One Thousand Forms of Fear over 300 times and I still love every song on it as much as I did when I first heard it. And then there was the time I listened to the song You Will Be Loved over 1000 times. It's a 5 minute long song, so that's over 83 hours of listening to only that song.

idk why I brought this up but I felt it was necessary

How I feel about Selena. I never get tired of her songs.

 

[Furret]

A day off and I just want to sleep, but there are people here replacing all the windows in the house.. haahh so much noise..

Wow this happens to me like 54% of the time. Granted I stay up to ridiculous times every night.. regardless.
Last night though I fell asleep around.. 1? Woke up at 4, properly shut everything down, then went back to sleep.
I have such a healthy sleeping schedule.

I like sleep (if I could sleep until I die, I'd be happy), but when I have a week off from classes I **** up my sleep schedule like no other. think I got up at 5 today... pm...

Can any of the local frame data gorls (@ Lavani @ BJN39 @Ffamran ) give me a quick run-down on how to read frame data? Like here's Peach's dtilt:

def game_5D():
    AsynchronousTimer_0D0(Frame=9.000000, )
    SetBoneIntangibility_0F0(0x10, 0x2, )
    AsynchronousTimer_0D0(Frame=13.000000, )
    Hitbox_029(ID=0x0, GID=0x0, Bone=0x0, Damage=7.000000, Angle=0x113, KBG=0x69, WKB=0x0, BKB=0x3C, Size=3.800000, Z=0.000000, Y=3.200000, X=7.000000, Element=0x0, Tripping=0x3E99999A, Hitlag=1.000000, SDI=1.000000, unk_=0x1, unk_=0x1, ShieldDamage=0x0, 0x2, 0x1, 0x1, 0x1, 0x4, 0x0, 2.000000, 15.000000, )
    Hitbox_026(ID=0x1, GID=0x0, Bone=0x11, Damage=7.000000, Angle=0x50, KBG=0x69, WKB=0x0, BKB=0xF, Size=4.500000, Z=0.000000, Y=0.000000, X=0.000000, Element=0x0, Tripping=0x3E99999A, Hitlag=1.000000, SDI=1.000000, unk_=0x1, unk_=0x1, ShieldDamage=0x0, 0x1, 0x1, 0x2, 0x1, 0x4, )
    SynchronousTimer_20B(Frame=2.000000, )
    ResetBoneIntangibility_0EF(0x0, )
    RemoveAllHitboxes_014()
    End_196()

The first thing that says Frame=9 means the hitboxes come out on frame 9, right? Does the setboneintangibility mean her arm is intangible? The second AsynchronousTimer is really confusing me. Is that when the hitboxes end? And I don't really understand anything else except the damage=7.

you didn't say @ Furret

 

[Meek Moths]

(see Zelda's 45%-Death combo)

whaaaaaat is that

like using nair and dair or is there something i dont know?

 

[Lorde]

How I feel about Selena. I never get tired of her songs.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who does that lol. My sister always tells me how weird it is that I play the same songs on repeat.

you didn't say @ Furret
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I honestly didn't know you could read frame data

 

[Jaguar360]

I guess I'll play around with it myself later (sliced my thumb, can't smash atm), I'm still quite skeptical about it due to the fact that it sends opponents behind you; even if needles>Pisces combos, it'll just throw the opponent onto the stage instead of killing them if you connect needles in an edgeguard situation, for example.

A shield break probably isn't that likely yeah, but the pressure's definitely real. When you think about it, being capped at 3 needles with stronger needles just means you don't spend as long charging the move to max!

While your edgeguarding game is nerfed, you gain strings that can kill onstage and an anti-edgeguard with Pisces. From my point of view, I just see it as losing one component to gain another equally important one. You have b-air, f-air, Gravity Grenade and Vanish to compensate for edguarding and U-air, Vanish, Gravity Grenade, smash attacks and B-air to compensate for the onstage kills.

Good luck with your hand btw. That sounds painful

whaaaaaat is that

like using nair and dair or is there something i dont know?

Sweetspot d-air --> Farore's Wind iirc

 

[BJN39]

I'm a bit curious, is there a kill % chart for farore's on every character? I know there's all kinds of tech and stuff that would make it mostly irrelevant (see Zelda's 45%-Death combo) but it'd be interesting/useful to know. If one doesn't exist I'll probably sit down and make one

Well, I have a WIP chart of the KO percents for FW Elevator. (Hit one to hit two combo. Unless that's what you meant. ) that I've been trying to remember to work on more. You can find it on post #3 of the Fairy Fountain. I don't have a raw reappear hit KO percent chart though.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who does that lol. My sister always tells me how weird it is that I play the same songs on repeat.



I honestly didn't know you could read frame data

@ Furret can indeed, he works pretty hard and does well imo, definitely a "frame data gorl".

 

[Macchiato]

I'm sad that I missed Macchi going on about Zelda being mid tier and WFT being high tier... Oh well :')

Zelda is definitely mid, mechanics this game buff her a lot. She has an ACTUAL offstage game. Recovering for her is a strong point. She has good combos. Din's fire are amazing as always duhh. She still has great range. Approaching well, **** that.

Wii fit is definitely high, she has good match ups. She kills really well, has great projectiles. Range imo isn't really a problem. She's mobile. Amazing edgeguarding game. Best taunts. Great recover

But I main doc so ohkay

 

[BJN39]

Din's fire are amazing as always duhh.

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

@XDanDan612 Sorry about the lag, I usually never have lag so idk why that happened. Thanks for playing <3

 

[warionumbah2]

Machitoto you should be a comedian i can picture you being as blast at parties.
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@ JingleJangleJamil bruh i saw that post in the marf board, if you got a problem with me get it off your chest. you said ganon is low tier but looking at the reasoning doesn't marf have the same problem? you said he's above average despite him getting decked by most of the top tiers that frequent tournaments, not even gonna talk about mk since you outright said you know nothing about him.

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Drk,Pch's pech is disgustingly good. A good MK player is fighting him and it looks pretty close, bring us victory random hero somewhere in the world

 

[Deleted member]

@XDanDan612 Sorry about the lag, I usually never have lag so idk why that happened. Thanks for playing <3

I think it might have been me. My connection has been getting weird. But anyway, good games, Amigo!

 

[Seki_]

@ BJN39 I'd be willing to sit down with you sometime and work on/finish that chart. Course idk how my DI is, so I'd probably be the one doing the televatoring ;B

 

[SBphiloz4]

So Samus can kill anyone at zero percent on Battlefield.

25 hit combo. 40% damage.

Insta-kill.

Sakurai must of known this which made him thought she was top tier, alongside Ganondorf's Down-B ledge cancel into Dair insta-spike lolololol. :^)

 

[Macchiato]

So Samus can kill anyone at zero percent on Battlefield.

25 hit combo. 40% damage.

Insta-kill.

Sakurai must of known this which made him thought she was top tier, alongside Ganondorf's Down-B ledge cancel into Dair insta-spike lolololol. :^)

He said Zelda is top tier. There must be something we're missing

 

[JingleJangleJamil]

Machitoto you should be a comedian i can picture you being as blast at parties.
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@ JingleJangleJamil bruh i saw that post in the marf board, if you got a problem with me get it off your chest. you said ganon is low tier but looking at the reasoning doesn't marf have the same problem? you said he's above average despite him getting decked by most of the top tiers that frequent tournaments, not even gonna talk about mk since you outright said you know nothing about him.

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Drk,Pch's pech is disgustingly good. A good MK player is fighting him and it looks pretty close, bring us victory random hero somewhere in the world

I don't really want to talk about MK or Ganon, since that was not my problem and like I said, I don't want to bother arguing. My problem was when you said this: "but you lack basic knowledge on MK in the first place(no surprise)". That part really made it sound like you were trying to insult me, especially with the "(no surprise)". I still think that you give Ganon a bit too much credit and Marth not enough. Since I don't really know anything about MK, I'll just say I will agree with you about him since you know more than I do about him.

 

[warionumbah2]

I don't really want to talk about MK or Ganon, since that was not my problem. My problem was when you said this: "but you lack basic knowledge on MK in the first place(no surprise)". That part really made it sound like you were trying to insult me, especially with the "(no surprise)".

well its no surprise that you don't know anything about a character that rarely gets spoken about(outside Mk boards). He's like Greninja and Shulk level in player rarity(probably more rare since Shulk is popular with his memes and greninja = amsa = apex) so you'll hardly play him, if you don't know much about MK to the point where you base your opinion on him through players who never played a good mk or played him at mid level,then more times than not you won't have basic knowledge on him.

 

[Lorde]

He said Zelda is top tier. There must be something we're missing

Do you have a link to when he said this because I've honestly searched for this multiple times and the only thing I can find that Sakurai ever about SSB4 Zelda is that she and Sheik feel fresher as separate characters.

Also, I doubt he'd ever say anything like this since he doesn't want to seem biased towards any particular character. There's a reason he won't tell us which character he uses the most.

 

[JingleJangleJamil]

well its no surprise that you don't know anything about a character that rarely gets spoken about(outside Mk boards). He's like Greninja and Shulk level in player rarity(probably more rare since Shulk is popular with his memes and greninja = amsa = apex) so you'll hardly play him, if you don't know much about MK to the point where you base your opinion on him through players who never played a good mk or played him at mid level,then more times than not you won't have basic knowledge on him.

Alright, thanks for clearing things up. I guess there was not really a way to make it not sound the way I thought you meant it. Sorry about all of this, please forgive me senpai!

 

[Latte]

I need to practice my Zelda, so if any of you gurls want to play with me, let me know. Wii U version is preferred, of course, but I can play 3DS too.

I remember feeling like this at your age, I didn't get my license until I had to at 18. The scariest part of driving is other people, honestly.

I mainly dislike driving at night or in crowded downtown areas. How2find a place2park downtown

 

[Lavani]

MK legit af character just sayin'

I need to practice my Zelda, so if any of you gurls want to play with me, let me know. Wii U version is preferred, of course, but I can play 3DS too.

I mainly dislike driving at night or in crowded downtown areas. How2find a place2park downtown

rip thumb
oh well

I actually prefer night driving because then the scary part of driving (other drivers) is much less of a factor. As for finding a place to park I live in the middle of nowhere so lol

 

[FullMoon]

We really should get someone with the needed talent and time on their hands to make a Zelda version of this gif.

Which is likely not going to happen, but it's just a thought.

 

[Macchiato]

Do you have a link to when he said this because I've honestly searched for this multiple times and the only thing I can find that Sakurai ever about SSB4 Zelda is that she and Sheik feel fresher as separate characters.

Also, I doubt he'd ever say anything like this since he doesn't want to seem biased towards any particular character. There's a reason he won't tell us which character he uses the most.

Idk that's what someone said in the competetive thread

 

[BJN39]

We really should get someone with the needed talent and time on their hands to make a Zelda version of this gif.

Which is likely not going to happen, but it's just a thought.

Won't happen?

Asdfnsbjgjubg

As soon as you said that I bet someone decided to do it.

 

[kenniky]

Wii fit is definitely high, she has good match ups. She kills really well, has great projectiles. Range imo isn't really a problem. She's mobile. Amazing edgeguarding game. Best taunts. Great recover

Best taunts.

uh
Wii Fit Trainer? I mean I guess there's "Let's stretch our legs" but there's also

They all have taunts that are better than WFT imo

 

[Lorde]

Idk that's what someone said in the competetive thread

Pro-tip: don't believe anything in the competitive mis-impressions thread.

 

[FullMoon]

Won't happen?

Asdfnsbjgjubg

As soon as you said that I bet someone decided to do it.

Reverse psychology at its finest.

 

[Nammy12]

Reverse psychology at its finest.

Dammit.
Now I kinda want to do it.
Unless @ SBphiloz4 is making one already

 

[SBphiloz4]

Dammit.
Now I kinda want to do it.
Unless @ SBphiloz4 is making one already

You can make one, haha. I have homework and stuff to do.

Or we can make it a race ehehehe. :^)

 

[Nammy12]

You can make one, haha. I have homework and stuff to do.

Or we can make it a race ehehehe. :^)

I have a bunch of homework as well so I guess it'll have to wait until later.
A race sounds interesting though :^)

 

[KuroganeHammer]

I need this

also has anyone noticed that zelda always has a resting b**** face?

SMILING GIVES YOU WRINKLES

RESTING B**** FACE KEEPS YOU FLAWLESS