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[Berserker.]

Iai counter, and dashing shield breaker are the customs I run with Marth. I'm not really sure about his side B or up B customs

 

[Soul.]

Side B customs are garbage lol. Side B 2 is Effortless Blade which lets you use only the standard Side B with no combination; you have more time to connect a hit. Side B 3 is Heavy Blade which is slower, more punishable (?), and has no combo potential because it has a lot of knockback. Default Side B is better

Up B customs are meh. Fthrow > Crescent Slash would be "reliable" if it also gave Marcina some vertical distance. But it's mostly horizontal so you need to guess. Dolphin Jump is idk, Dolphin Slash without the hitbox

edit: even though this is obvious

 

[Rickster]

Was humming this on the walk home since it was fitting for the weather.

One of the better route themes imo.

 

[FullMoon]

Have fun @ FullMoon - get some matches saved if you can!

And girls... I'm sitting here shivering in 40 degree weather when you guys are dealing with snow and blizzards. It's just. So. Cold. x.x

I have so many matches to upload as is =V

Plus I'm not sure if I'd be allowed to set up my capture card there.

 

[Soul.]

bruh

breh

 

[MDAVE]

Was humming this on the walk home since it was fitting for the weather.

One of the better route themes imo.

Yo, this theme though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e48lVBIoqTo So cute and cheerful, yet the route is like two steps and then it ends..

 

[Soul.]

nothing beats this

best route theme

 

[Furret]

Was humming this on the walk home since it was fitting for the weather.

One of the better route themes imo.

bruh

breh

playing the wrong series for good music, I think DKC is where it's at

 

[Lavani]

Rosalina boards = go for characters that obviously lose to her and pick characters you will barely see in tournaments

Meta ga- pardon me Meta knight boards = aim for the best, screw the rest.

Follow our example falco boards make a difference today.

I never understood their mentality with the MU thread either. You'd think you'd want to tackle the important MUs first but...I dunno lol

With the rating system and contribution method they have I'd rather just listen to the thoughts of a pro Rosa player than see MUs being ranked because "I don't know how to beat Yoshi's nair halp" or "Rosalina is my waifu so she is better than this scumbag character!" or "well rosalina is higher on the tier list so she wins"

Iai counter, and dashing shield breaker are the customs I run with Marth. I'm not really sure about his side B or up B customs

Someone's gonna need to explain the appeal of dash shield breaker to me, it does butts for (shield) damage so is it just for recovery? I'd think having a tool that makes the opponent afraid to shield would have more value. Then again Marcina's recovery is kinda bad

All three upBs seem usable based on preference, all sideBs suck

I was talking about match up discussions and all that

"Was."
Not anymore we aren't.

 

[Kofu]

Who hoo! I'm getting let our early from school due to snowfall, sisters!

It's the pretty kind too! None of that boring ice. We don't get snow like this too often, so it's pretty cool.

/deardiary

So normally in Utah we get a lot of snow during the winter ("greatest snow on earth" is one of our license plate catchphrases and we get a lot of money from snow sports tourism). This winter, however, it's only snowed twice and it only stuck around a week, if that. We've had temperatures around the 50s or higher for the past few months.

Also reposting this here because it'll get more attention than in the Villager social:

I just got a shieldbreak KO with Villager's jab on For Glory.

I've lost hope in the general player base.

 

[Soul.]

playing the wrong series for good music, I think DKC is where it's at

what does DKC have. Fear Factory? Forest Interlude? Mining Melancholy?
or It Doesn't Matter

 

[UkeNicky]

Afternoon ladies, how goes it baybehs

 

[Berserker.]

Relevant to the For Glory discussion

 

[Soul.]

when you use Mac in for glory you need to ask yourself this:
"am I eating a Big Mac?" If you aren't, your chances of losing rise up to 90%

 

[Mocha]

gorl where are you at? 40 degrees sounds lovely right about now. I think it's 9 degrees today, not bad, not good

I'm in the land of Prin - oh, I mean Texas.

@ FullMoon Hm, I would take an SD card and save the replays onto it. Then later at home, I'd just record the replays.

 

[Lavani]

Did smash run for an hour

I don't think this is any better than classic for customs and honestly it seems a lot worse to me, but I got Dark Pit finished and it was something new to do I guess

Also, I think Smart Bombs changed in 1.0.5. Used to be that while stuck in the explosion you'd just stay in place, now you bounce left/right toward its center and it makes it impossible to SDI out the sides (top still works the same)

 

[Soul.]

I got every custom in Smash Run back when the 3DS version was still new. RNG must be happy

 

[Rickster]

Yo, this theme though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e48lVBIoqTo So cute and cheerful, yet the route is like two steps and then it ends..

I really love this theme as a first route song, but yeah, it really sucks that Route 1 is so short...hope they never pull that again.

nothing beats this

best route theme

I remember this back when I first got Diamond and Pearl. Although I like Route 209 more.

 

[Soul.]

some guy asked this on the Pikachu social

What's stopping your opponent from rolling behind your all too obvious grab attempt and Fsmashing you in the back?

i don't understand. someone pls understand?

 

[Lavani]

remember when people used to complain about rolls being too good in this game even though they're the exact same as every other game

those were the days

 

[MDAVE]

some guy asked this on the Pikachu social

i don't understand. someone pls understand?

Ah, I can see your Iwhatta? moment here. It looks like this person is confused as of why their opponent doesn't roll behind them because their moves are so obvious and readable.. I think... I.. Ouch, my brain.

 

[UkeNicky]

I don't really like For Glory, too many try-hards.

I literally only ever play with my friends for fun, it's just so much nicer there's no stress or salt it's just fun competitiveness and messing around, like you know swearing at each other and schtuff in jest

 

[Soul.]

>grab
>roll behind
>fsmash

....shield? Pikachu's grab is fast (f6). I see no problem

 

[Rickster]

remember when people used to complain about rolls being too good in this game even though they're the exact same as every other game

those were the days

Wait what.

They're actually the same?well this is embarrassing

 

[Furret]

I'm in the land of Prin - oh, I mean Texas.

@ FullMoon Hm, I would take an SD card and save the replays onto it. Then later at home, I'd just record the replays.

didn't even know texas went down to 40 degrees

what does DKC have. Fear Factory? Forest Interlude? Mining Melancholy?
or It Doesn't Matter

(DKC) Island swing, jungle groove, aquatic ambiance, Treetop rock, Gang-Plank Galleon,(DKC2) Steel Drum Rhumba, Jib Jig, LockJaw's saga, Stickerbush Symphony or I could list more and I can't believe you think you have actual taste (also see your still using crappy 10+ minute loops)

 

[Kofu]

Did smash run for an hour

I don't think this is any better than classic for customs and honestly it seems a lot worse to me, but I got Dark Pit finished and it was something new to do I guess

Also, I think Smart Bombs changed in 1.0.5. Used to be that while stuck in the explosion you'd just stay in place, now you bounce left/right toward its center and it makes it impossible to SDI out the sides (top still works the same)

I dunno, like I said, I enjoy Smash Run. Don't hesitate to use powers, collect any custom bag you see, and try not to die.

 

[Soul.]

didn't even know texas went down to 40 degrees

(DKC) Island swing, jungle groove, aquatic ambiance, Treetop rock, Gang-Plank Galleon,(DKC2) Steel Drum Rhumba, Jib Jig, LockJaw's saga, Stickerbush Symphony or I could list more and I can't believe you think you have actual taste (also see your still using crappy 10+ minute loops)

wow I'm so sorry. I owe you an apology.
I don't have a taste in music. I listen to VGM for no reason. who cares if I listen to 10+ minute loops

 

[Lavani]

Wait what.

They're actually the same?well this is embarrassing

I posted this elsewhere but here, have a comparison with Mario's rolls across the games:

Shields are nerfed compared to Brawl, there's a larger commit time before you're allowed to shield drop and bonus shield damage is prevalent on many more attacks than before, and in larger amounts.

Rolls being better also seems to be placebo. Using Mario as a point of comparison:

Game | Invuln | End
64 | 3-18f | 30f
Melee| 4-19f |31f
Brawl |4-19f |32f
4| 4-19f| 30f

If anything, wifi lag makes rolls more of a problem than they should be, because the rolls themselves aren't really any different.

I've been told that certain rolls (Meta Knight, Lucario) were nerfed from Brawl too but I haven't checked that myself yet

Mac's rolls are legit dumb though

I dunno, like I said, I enjoy Smash Run. Don't hesitate to use powers, collect any custom bag you see, and try not to die.

Yeah that's been what I've been doing

I still only get 1~2 customs for each session and they're usually repeats

 

[Space Stranger]

didn't even know texas went down to 40 degrees

(DKC) Island swing, jungle groove, aquatic ambiance, Treetop rock, Gang-Plank Galleon,(DKC2) Steel Drum Rhumba, Jib Jig, LockJaw's saga, Stickerbush Symphony or I could list more and I can't believe you think you have actual taste (also see your still using crappy 10+ minute loops)

>tfw someone disses 10 minute loops

 

[Soul.]

>tfw someone disses 10 minute loops

that falcon face. lmao

 

[Space Stranger]

that falcon face. lmao

That was my face when I never won a match with yesterday.

 

[Soul.]

That was my face when I never won a match with yesterday.

tfw

rolf

 

[Lavani]

rolf

 

[Brinzy]

That's the face I make anytime I want to have fun as Ike and end up against like a Sheik online.

 

[Mocha]

@Macchiato what time is that tourney again? Or rather, how many hours from now?

 

[Rickster]

I posted this elsewhere but here, have a comparison with Mario's rolls across the games:


I've been told that certain rolls (Meta Knight, Lucario) were nerfed from Brawl too but I haven't checked that myself yet

Mac's rolls are legit dumb though


Yeah that's been what I've been doing

I still only get 1~2 customs for each session and they're usually repeats

Wow. Maybe I'm just going crazy...

Lucario's rolls were definitely nerfed in some way from Brawl. More end lag or something...or at least it feels worse. I can't trust myself on rolls at this point.
And sorry you had to go dig that post up. I must have missed it when I decided not to read the 20 pages I missed, lol.

 

[Ffamran]

Speaking of Captain Falcon... Someone in the Rosalina MU thread says that the Capt. can't combo and that he horribly loses to Rosalina. I think the ratio put was worse than Ganondorf vs. Rosalina.

 

[Brinzy]

Clearly the Rosa v Falcon matchup is 100-0, because who actually wants to deal with that?

 

[Lavani]

And sorry you had to go dig that post up. I must have missed it when I decided not to read the 20 pages I missed, lol.

no it was from a different (locked) thread lol

I heard MK/Lucario rolls were nerfed from Brawl but I haven't gotten data to compare yet

Speaking of Captain Falcon... Someone in the Rosalina MU thread says that the Capt. can't combo and that he horrible loses to Rosalina. I think the ratio put was worse than Ganondorf vs. Rosalina.

 

[Fernosaur]

Leonard Nimoy died Sad day for sci-fi.

Hahahaha omg ily