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At this rate we'll be winning more poetry competitions than tournaments with Zelda.
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Zelda my true love,
Why in all-star mode does Din's,
Kill at ten percent?
Why in all-star mode does Din's,
Kill at ten percent?
SBphiloz4
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ZombieBran
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The title of this thread is true!
And CPUs like to hold shield against approaching Din's only to let go as soon as you detonate it, which often ends in their untimely demise. Why they do this is a mystery.
And CPUs like to hold shield against approaching Din's only to let go as soon as you detonate it, which often ends in their untimely demise. Why they do this is a mystery.
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JigglyZelda003
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lady luck is just on my side lol. Like I still get the misses some days alot. I wish you could angle her fsmash.
Rion
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Ah really? I thought it was pretty good throughout actually input wise... except for the like, actual lag stutters every so often. It was a bit better near the beginning!
Honestly, I thought you were doing really well! Against some other characters, you seemed to know how to pressure pretty well!
Obviously Dedede was the best one vs Zelda. God, that Ftilt is seriously a pain in the arse. And the free Dthrow followups and what not, ahh. It was pretty easy for you to wrack up damage on me with DDD! I don't think I've ever had to deal with so much shield pressure before either, good lord. So much shield damage...
Also I should really stop SDing with FW, lol~
It was fun though! I'm not really sure what else to really tell you, I think you have a better understanding of what to do than I do, haha.
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That's because Din's is a terrifyingly powerful projectile, please understand.
Ah yes of course. How foolish of me not to understand that.
Don't think Gravitational Pull stops Din's... so it's great against Luma? I guess it also means that first Din's against Rosalina will work.
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ZombieBran
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So I was right, but why does it not feel good =(
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Rion
my post is actually right even though it's dripping in sarcasm. I believe the logic is that very strong projectiles can count for more than one bucket thing. Or so I recall.you forgot
the 0.7% buff to utilt
ZombieBran
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Yes how silly of me.
But I don't even count that fully because at the Best Buy demo and e3 Utilt did 7%ish
It was like they arbitrarily nerfed it before release and then unnerfed it.
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Hyrule Candy
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I won a tournament with her last week. Do I get a high five? No? Ok I'll go back to my corner
How many in the tournament/what area?
Hyrule Candy
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KuroganeHammer
30 and it was in springfield VA.
KuroganeHammer
30 and it was in springfield VA.
Congrats
Hyrule Candy
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Thanks I used zelda for all the matches.Congrats
In the grand finals I had to switch her out for lucina since zelda can't with greninja.
The other matches I used her doe
Why are there so many Zelda guides all of sudden?
Wrote one before it was cool
Wrote one before it was cool
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Actually I'm pretty impressed at the activity in here. Never would have guessed this character of all people would be more active than say the Diddy board.@Alacion Yes, there are quite a few guides, but better something than nothing for a start. I'm surprised this character board even has a guide at all tbh.
SBphiloz4
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My personal guide to using Zelda:
Don't get led astray
As pretty as a bouquet
She leads to trap way
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But seriously though, you need more than just dedication to actually main Zelda in this game. >u>
Don't get led astray
As pretty as a bouquet
She leads to trap way
-Haiku-
But seriously though, you need more than just dedication to actually main Zelda in this game. >u>
Need a hitbox pro like @
KuroganeHammer
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Does Zelda's dsmash hit below the floor, like Fox's against somebody on the ledge? If so, this could be game changing if you use it after a ledge trump. The angle is fantastic also.
KuroganeHammer
.Does Zelda's dsmash hit below the floor, like Fox's against somebody on the ledge? If so, this could be game changing if you use it after a ledge trump. The angle is fantastic also.
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seems like the same half dozen people commenting to me, but i woves all of youz
I think I might be able to provide an answer here:Need a hitbox pro like @
Does Zelda's dsmash hit below the floor, like Fox's against somebody on the ledge? If so, this could be game changing if you use it after a ledge trump. The angle is fantastic also.
According to the master core, Zelda's Dtilt has a hit-box size of 3.6, and a vertical displacement from roughly the floor (Her sweeping foot) of 3.
Dsmash has the same vertical displacement from exactly the ground (as it's not attached to her foot for whatever reason.) and it has a hit-box size of 4.2.
If Dtilt truly hits underneath the z axis at all, then Dsmash SHOULD do that even better.
The only problem for usefulness is that Dtilt hits for 7 frames, while Dsmash only hits for 2 in front...
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BJN39
Against fast fallers, I'd like to think getting back on stage after a ledge trump isn't the easiest? This was all inspired by a ledge trump to Luigi down taunt I pulled off.
I guess what really matters is if dsmash hits an opponent on the ledge. Frames aren't too important. Some smashes, like Palutena's, won't work I believe. Still, I'm not hugely convinced any of this would work but it's just some thoughts I had.
BJN39
Against fast fallers, I'd like to think getting back on stage after a ledge trump isn't the easiest? This was all inspired by a ledge trump to Luigi down taunt I pulled off.I guess what really matters is if dsmash hits an opponent on the ledge. Frames aren't too important. Some smashes, like Palutena's, won't work I believe. Still, I'm not hugely convinced any of this would work but it's just some thoughts I had.
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It's worth a try. Perhaps I'll go try and test it later. 
Yeah this is definitely not guaranteed but something to keep in mind in the ledge game.
Ledge trump to bair is definitely a thing too.
Ledge trump to bair is definitely a thing too.
Y'know, ledge trump options got me thinking, could we not possibly use Farore's windfall after a ledge trump and get a nice spike gimp? (IE, ledge trump > jump back > FWindfall > and recover since you can move after aerial reappear so soon.) I mean, obviously it's more gimmicky than an already effective enough FW elevator, but hey? Perhaps it has another possible use.
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JigglyZelda003
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ledge trump windfall profits....idk. It seems like a HUGE gimmick to risk unless we can guarantee it through some testing. Stealing one stock for the wow factor might make it all worth it though
Random fun fact:
Of all SSB4's veterans
Zelda's social has the highest post total
Of any social thread,
Or even just character sub-forum threads for vets in general.
ALL HAIL ZELDA!
Of all SSB4's veterans
Zelda's social has the highest post total
Of any social thread,
Or even just character sub-forum threads for vets in general.
ALL HAIL ZELDA!
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Hyrule Candy
Smash Journeyman
People just like zelda that much. Ya know If they give dins fire a traveling hitbox and her brawl Usmash back. I will never complain ever again
Don't make promises you can't keep.
Hyrule Candy
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Lol wow I just made an account a few days ago and you already know me so wellDon't make promises you can't keep.
JigglyZelda003
Smash Hero
honestly dins flare should just be Zeldas version of pkthunder. It would solve her camping problems and make flare useful
Or we could just remove Zelda and replace her with Roll from Tatsunoko VS Capcom.
Hyrule Candy
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NOOOOOOO I need zelda