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[Fireemblemfreak]

> mfw people complain about Zelda being terrible. If she's so bad, don't main her. I barely complain about her because it's my choice to use her, you're not being forced xD

 

[Tattles]

> mfw people complain about Zelda being terrible. If she's so bad, don't main her. I barely complain about her because it's my choice to use her, you're not being forced xD

I think people just like saying "lel i main the worst character and i beat u, i must be rllly good."

Robin mains are quite the opposite. There's a small group of people who think Robin is absolute trash, and I know *plenty* of people ready to defend their character to the death. (not trying to toot my own horn; i main marth more so than robin lol)

Zelda is definitely strong, but probably the hardest character to play at a basic-proficient level.

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

Too many people focus too much on "is this character good or bad?"

Zelda may be bad. In the tournament environment, at least. But what matters is playing a character suited for you. A character that feels "natural" to you.

Zelda is exactly that to me. Robin, too. Basically, two slow, powerful, gimmicky magicians

 

[SBphiloz4]

Don't take it the wrong idea, gorls. I love Zelda. Love her to death. She's pretty much my bae in Smash. But being truthful about a character's potential is a completely different story. Being not so good for 3 straight games isn't something that long loyalists would enjoy that much.

I love Zelda, and I also hate Zelda. But that's what makes her our sassy special snowflake. :3

 

[Mocha]

/Typical day at the Zelda Social

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

Well, we can absolutely complain about her F-Smash. No doubt about it.

But Zelda being bad is more an issue caused by the fanbase creating the tournament environement, more than her design itself. Though it's both. I think.

 

[Fireemblemfreak]

Complaining about moves or whatever being bad like dins or f smash is fine, I'm sure I do it too XD But only complaining and continuing to main her makes me question.

 

[Cenizas]

I think if Sakurai just buffed Din's Fire so that it didn't put Zelda in freefall and had a hitbox while traveling like PK Thunder, Zelda would jump 4~5 characters in tier, literally.

 

[UkeNicky]

I NEED A COMPETENT ROB MAIN TO WRECK ME.

Omg let's all take a trip to the Rob boards

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

I think if Sakurai just buffed Din's Fire so that it didn't put Zelda in freefall and had a hitbox while traveling like PK Thunder, Zelda would jump 4~5 characters in tier, literally.

I do agree about that.

I still wonder why Din's put her in freefall. This is not an oversight, as the Mii gunners have a similar move that put them in freefall too.

 

[UkeNicky]

I do agree about that.

I still wonder why Din's put her in freefall. This is not an oversight, as the Mii gunners have a similar move that put them in freefall too.

This, THIS.
But whatever, I guess the trade off is we look really cool and glide-y when using Din in midair.

 

[Furret]

I do agree about that.

I still wonder why Din's put her in freefall. This is not an oversight, as the Mii gunners have a similar move that put them in freefall too.

I like how space zoo got their free fall removed. Zelda be like

well, she's normally like that

 

[UkeNicky]

Zelda can't even in that picture.
But you are right, she can't even in any picture. Or anything for that matter.

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

I like how space zoo got their free fall removed. Zelda be like

well, she's normally like that

"Space zoo". I like this nickname. And I hate their recovery.

ALTHOUGH it's really predictable, and fun to make Din explode where they will appear, or use phantom. Or just use the F-Smash. Or use D-Air. Or growing a tree with Villager...

There's plenty of ways to make them rage.

 

[Fernosaur]

Yeah, the Olimar MU, I'm like 100% sure it's not in our favor :'D. he might have a lot of reflectable bullcrap, but his grabs are still super long ranged and cannot be reflected AFAIK, and they come with a lot of pretty hurtful combos.

I honestly don't think just spamming Nayru's till the end of time is the answer to an Olimar fight :/

 

[Fireemblemfreak]

I do agree about that.

I still wonder why Din's put her in freefall. This is not an oversight, as the Mii gunners have a similar move that put them in freefall too.

I noticed that too. But..

edit: holy hell the picture should not be that big

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Unless they sweetspot the ledge, then you can't do anything!

SUPER GREAT

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

Unless they sweetspot the ledge, then you can't do anything!

SUPER GREAT

I'm not talking about the evolved space zoo that know what they are doing.

Although the Dair still work. Sometimes.

 

[Cenizas]

Who's space zoo?

 

[Rickster]

So that's why you main Doc? *clap clap*

#DEEP

But what if he switches life goals mains again?

I main Zelda because she feels natural to me. And I like her. Even though I use other chars that are much better, I still stick to her in serious matches. My complaining about her mostly stems from me being a pessimist.

Also fun fact: A sweetspotted kick somehow beats Charizard's Flare Blitz. Not sure on the specifics, but there wasn't any trade. LK completely out priortised it (and KOd him :D ).

 

[Lorde]

Sakurai needs to stop making multi-hit smash attacks because they don't work (or at least fix them). Even poor Duck Hunt has to experience the pain of people falling out of their smashes.

Kinda off topic, but does anyone want a Monster Hunter 4 demo code? I got an email with an extra one for someone else. If any of you sisters want it, just say so and I'll pm you

edit:

Who's space zoo?

I think they mean Fox/Falco since they're the space animals.

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Also fun fact: A sweetspotted kick somehow beats Charizard's Flare Blitz. Not sure on the specifics, but there wasn't any trade. LK completely out priortised it (and KOd him :D ).

I'm not 100% sure, but I think if an attack does 9% damage or more, then the more powerful attack outpriorities the other.

 

[Ffamran]

Unless they sweetspot the ledge, then you can't do anything!

SUPER GREAT

I wished Wolf was back... Wolf Flash would have been awesome, but it's only available as a custom for Fox...

 

[Mocha]

I wished Wolf was back... Wolf Flash would have been awesome, but it's only available as a custom for Fox...

And along with the 'Wolf' costume for Fox... Sakurai's courtesy trolling, of course.

 

[Furret]

"Space zoo". I like this nickname. .

you're not a Zelda main till you make degrading/stupid nicknames for other characters

I wished Wolf was back... Wolf Flash would have been awesome, but it's only available as a custom for Fox...

Thank you so much

 

[KuroganeHammer]

But what if he switches life goals mains again?

I main Zelda because she feels natural to me. And I like her. Even though I use other chars that are much better, I still stick to her in serious matches. My complaining about her mostly stems from me being a pessimist.

Also fun fact: A sweetspotted kick somehow beats Charizard's Flare Blitz. Not sure on the specifics, but there wasn't any trade. LK completely out priortised it (and KOd him :D ).

Flare Blitz has armor like Snake's Cypher. It's damage based.

 

[Cenizas]

Sakurai needs to stop making multi-hit smash attacks because they don't work (or at least fix them). Even poor Duck Hunt has to experience the pain of people falling out of their smashes.

Kinda off topic, but does anyone want a Monster Hunter 4 demo code? I got an email with an extra one for someone else. If any of you sisters want it, just say so and I'll pm you

edit:
I think they mean Fox/Falco since they're the space animals.

edit 2:

I'm not 100% sure, but I think if an attack does 9% damage or more, then the more powerful attack outpriorities the other.

Ok, I thought they were still talking about Olimar. LOL

 

[SBphiloz4]

But what if he switches life goals mains again?

Imagine if our Smash mains determined our lifelong goals?

... Being a princess wouldn't be that bad.

 

[Ffamran]

And along with the 'Wolf' costume for Fox... Sakurai's courtesy trolling, of course.

Wolf Flash and Fire Wolf, in my opinion, would be the best Up and Side Specials of the Star Fox/Wolf characters. I would even say Wolf's Blaster would be the best Blaster because of the bolt's hitbox and the bayonet which makes it safer than Falco's Blaster.

I mean, an angle-able recovery and a recovery that travels horizontal and vertical distance? Fire Wolf activated the quickest out if the three and if the same thing applies to not free-falling after Wolf Flash, then Wolf's recovery would be awesome. The only issue would be his jump height. Considering Wolf Flash has a meteor hitbox where he appears, it would be dangerous to recover above him or ledgeguard him.

Oh well... I mean, we already have Chrom through an Ike palette swap, chubby Ridley through Charizard's palette swap, and Roy's in the game too. Hell, we have 14 playable Links! Link, Toon Link, the Four Swords Links and Toon Links, Dark Link and Dark Toon Link, and Fierce Deity Link.

 

[Fernosaur]

@ KuroganeHammer
I have a favor to ask.

I'd like some theory (you know, text) on what are the changes to the game's engine from Brawl to Sm4sh that actually make the game more balanced.

I know a couple, like the new ledge mechanics and most of the characters being revised and nerfed while others got good buffs. However, I'm not sure if there are changes in gravity, air speed, knockback, hitstun, etc.

It feels like I know how these changes feel but I can't really put them into words because I don't really know what they are, if that makes sense.

And since you're the resident database ...

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

Imagine if our Smash mains determined our lifelong goals?

... Being a princess wouldn't be that bad.

I couldn't live with being a blob that swallows everything ;-;
Although being eternally friend-zoned doesn't sound better

 

[Deleted member]

Someone.....please help me.......im losing my voice.........I SOUND LIKE A DYING FROG.

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[Cenizas]

Although being eternally friend-zoned doesn't sound better

But what about X? If Sakurai ships it, it must be legit.

 

[UkeNicky]

- Magical Princess
- Cutest ROBot ever
- Cutest Princess ever

Ughhh I'll take all three

Omg, I guess PacMan mains life long goal is to eat lots of balls and ghosts

 

[KuroganeHammer]

@ KuroganeHammer
I have a favor to ask.

I'd like some theory (you know, text) on what are the changes to the game's engine from Brawl to Sm4sh that actually make the game more balanced.

I know a couple, like the new ledge mechanics and most of the characters being revised and nerfed while others got good buffs. However, I'm not sure if there are changes in gravity, air speed, knockback, hitstun, etc.

It feels like I know how these changes feel but I can't really put them into words because I don't really know what they are, if that makes sense.

And since you're the resident database ...

The only change is that you can't air dodge out of hitstun now and characters fall much faster.

Other than that it's still similar to brawl and melee.

 

[Mocha]

But what about X? If Sakurai ships it, it must be legit.

OOOH we're gonna talk about ships now?

x cause you all know Aragorn x Arwen are magic.

Dare I ask what other crazy pairings you people ship?

 

[Fernosaur]

I ship Ike with Samus.

And Peach with Roy.


There are very elaborate backstories to these but don't ask.

 

[Mocha]

I think I've seen Samus shipped with almost every character.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

I ship metroid with master cheif

 

[Ffamran]

I ship Ike with Samus.

And Peach with Roy.


There are very elaborate backstories to these but don't ask.

I like IkeXSheik. There was this weird fanfic about them. One series involved Ike being a blunt ******* and Sheik being a ***** and only they could stand each other or something. Another involved Sheik splitting up with Zelda and deciding to be her own person rather than just be a mask for Zelda or something. Well, one thing lead to another and somehow, she and Ike got together.

Oh, and there was one wherewhere there was SamusXMeta Knight. It was a comedy series where Fox was a butt monkey and horrible things happened to him like witnessing Samus and Meta Knight having an intimate moment, Snake and Captain Falcon being perverts, and other stuff.

Fanfiction is so damn weird.

 

[Fernosaur]

Totally true.

I had good reasons to ship them though.

fasdlhjkglhakjsdga, fighting urge to talk about that project...

Urges failed!

Like 4 years ago a friend and I wanted to make a web fancomic based on Smash Bros that had Samus, Ike, Fox and Zelda as the main characters. The story was pretty cool but time constraints, real life and that kinda **** happened

I have to say, though, if I had much more free time I'd love to revive the project. It was hype as hell. Here's the cover for the first chapter. (Keep in mind that this is 4 years old, so the art's quality is somewhat questionable).

Also omg this is so nerdy it's embarassing.

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