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McKnightlíght

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The only thing better than her zoning game is her rushdown. Use the Shovel Knight for get off me options and Din's Fire offstage for escape.
 

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I really expected to use the -4 box. But I didn't have to.

Bayo/Yoshi might be -4 though but this is an optimist MU chart
 

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1111 Brawler is in 0 which is even which isn't losing. I think she loses slightly to Dedede cos Gordos are annoying to deal with offfstage, also cos she ends up getting grabbed and hoo hah'd at like 80% and dies
 
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1111 Brawler is in 0 which is even which isn't losing. I think she loses slightly to Dedede cos Gordos are annoying to deal with offfstage, also cos she ends up getting grabbed and hoo hah'd at like 80% and dies
Oh, my bad.

I can see your point about Gordos, but Dedede's "hoo-hah" isn't even a reliable kill confirm and it's pretty easy to DI his down throw. Zelda can also lame out Dedede more than one could expect.
 

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Honestly that's fair enough. But one thing Zelda doesn't like is disjoints and large range, which Dedede has a lot of.

Discount Cloud :secretkpop:
 
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Honestly that's fair enough. But one thing Zelda doesn't like is disjoints and large range, which Dedede has a lot of.

Discount Cloud :secretkpop:
here is the key way to win the Dedede MU as Zelda...

:GCLT::GCRT:

:secretkpop:

also most of Dedede's aerials are really slow and with Dedede's horribad air mobility and jumpsquat they're pretty telegraphed.
 

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Imo Zelda's only decent MU is against Puff

She loses all of the others

I wish I could say I was kidding
 

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I hope people start banning Zelda, so I have no temptation to lose with her.
 

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Speaking of that, playing Dedede for some reason and going against WFT online was the worst experience I've ever had in Smash 4. Worse than anything involving Sheik, Diddy or any other character.
 

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I'm at a yearly anniversary tourney and they left me off the pool list after I paid my registration fee.

It seems oregon has already Banned•Zelda.

You're welcome everyone :secretkpop:
 
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i did that character chart ****

i actually have a lot of fun with zelda in this game, even if she's hella bad and hella sad
 
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McKnightlíght

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Here is my tier list.

I play Ike.

I play Zelda.

Yoshi can suck a wang.
 

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I really expected to use the -4 box. But I didn't have to.

Bayo/Yoshi might be -4 though but this is an optimist MU chart
I like how every relevant character is in the -3 section :secretkpop:

As for DDD it might not be so bad anymore with the Nair buff. The multihits will hit them back now which makes the MU 100x less annoying.

This is coming from the guy whose Smash nemesis is DDD, lol.

And for winning MUs...well, we might win against Puff and we might win against Ganondorf. Those are big "mights" though.
 
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I like how every relevant character is in the -3 section :secretkpop:

As for DDD it might not be so bad anymore with the Nair buff. The multihits will hit them back now which makes the MU 100x less annoying.

This is coming from the guy whose Smash nemesis is DDD, lol.

And for winning MUs...well, we might win against Puff and we might win against Ganondorf. Those are big "mights" though.
I don't think Zelda has absolute zero winning MUs.

:4feroy::4palutena::4charizard::4bowser::4ganondorf::4jigglypuff::4dedede:

just my earnest two cents.

also.. since your nemesis is Dedede...

:4dedede:

does this face strike fear in you?
 
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Bowser grabs any move Zelda does on shield and then kills her at 60% with uthrow uair that MU is NOT even, it is NOT winning, it is NOT -1, heck it MIGHT be -3

T B H
 

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I don't think Zelda has absolute zero winning MUs.

:4feroy::4palutena::4charizard::4bowser::4ganondorf::4jigglypuff::4dedede:

just my earnest two cents.

also.. since your nemesis is Dedede...

:4dedede:

does this face strike fear in you?
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I really disagree with us beating Roy. He's quick, is disjointed, kills early, and Fthrow>Nair is really easy on Zelda, and that leads into even more things. We can edgeguard and combo really well, but that's not enough to make me say it's a positive MU.

Palutena spends the while match spacing us out completely with Bair, and it's not easy to edgeguard her because of her teleport. She also has much better mobility than us, a reflector, and can utilize ledge cancelling a lot more than us.

I don't have much experience against Charizard, but his grab game is pretty good and he's got good range and a powerful OoS option. Also super armor and multiple jumps. Oh and the annoying fire breath.

I find the Bowser MU to actually be quite bad. Out ranged, can't kill early, Nair combos don't work well at all, we die really fast, UpB is bascially his Nayru's, command grab, throw combos...ugh I hate Bowser so much. He also gets free fire breath damage if we try and recover the normal way.

The rest I can agree with either barely winning or being even, though.
 
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But seriously, I bet every character thinks they beat him and it's a bit sad.
I don't really see Wii Fit beating him, sword users are a problem for her no matter who it is (besides maybe Robin, Shulk, and Link). He's also decently fast compared to other sword users.
But when he gets offstage.

..

...

✿‿✿
 

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"Decently fast"

Aside from walk speed, Roy's mobility specs are basically top tier
 
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:4roy: :4sonic:

:4secretkpop:





Edit: ...I messed that up horribly, but I'm keeping it.
 
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Bowser grabs any move Zelda does on shield and then kills her at 60% with uthrow uair that MU is NOT even, it is NOT winning, it is NOT -1, heck it MIGHT be -3

T B H
The only time I've been koo-pa'd was on a platform when he had 120 rage and I was at 50. If you di directly above him he can't connect it at regular kill percents cus lovely floaty property.
 
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