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[Lavani]

It has a lot of interesting. I'm only talking about the fully charged Phantom slash. Idk when instant charge phantom slash is useful other than lucky grab breaks or (crappy) meat shielding.

Phantom's hitboxes are really questionable, only the sword does damage and for whatever reason it only does things with its sword at the end of its charge.

I don't think there's ever really a reason to use uncharged, I learned the other day that there's a half-charged version that may be usable though.

 

[evmaxy54]

My university just started its spring semester today. I really don't want to go since it's cold outside and I'm tired. Well, whatever...

 

[Mocha]

Okay so...

I am 100% certain Din's Fire is better than Upsmash.
They're both bad moves that can easily miss, but...
Upsmash would never kill in the 60s.
That is all.

 

[JigglyZelda003]

uncharged is good for quick spacing. And partial stop signing people. Its not very good on fast moving people like falcon or mac but average speeders it works on. Also good at air cockblocking some approaches

 

[Mocha]

My own personal version of Zelda's Tier List of her moves (based on general viability/greater reward over risk)

S Tier

- Up taunt
- Down tilt
- Ferrari's Wind

A Tier

- Back throw
- Back air
- Forward air

B Tier

- Side taunt
- Down throw
- Dash attack
- Forward tilt
- Forward smash
- Neutral air

C Tier

- Down air
- Down smash
- Up tilt
- Up throw
- Jab

D Tier

- Down taunt
- Up air
- Phantom
- Nayru's Love
- Forward throw

E Tier

- Roll
- Spot dodge
- Air dodge

F Tier

- Din's Fire
- Up smash

 

[JigglyZelda003]

@ Mocha I've started to call landing only the second hit of faroes ferrari's wind because I'm usually doing it goinh left or right lol

 

[SBphiloz4]

My own personal version of Zelda's Tier List of her moves (based on general viability/greater reward over risk)

But our air dodge has less ending lag than Laggy Kicks and Finger Bang. It must be soooo much better. :^)

 

[Mocha]

But our air dodge has less ending lag than Laggy Kicks and Finger Bang. It must be soooo much better. :^)

Least laggy kicks can hurt things on top of leaving us helpless. Air dodges only leaves us helpless.

 

[JigglyZelda003]

Laggy kicks are often times a better air defense than airdodge lol.

 

[BJN39]

But our air dodge has less ending lag than Laggy Kicks and Finger Bang. It must be soooo much better. :^)

Actually, iirc UAir and AD have equal landing lag (22F)

Hey, there's a buff from Brawl! 2 less landing lag frames!

 

[evmaxy54]

Actually, iirc UAir and AD have equal landing lag (22F)

Hey, there's a buff from Brawl! 2 less landing lag frames!

Wait

Brawl Zelda had (20+ frames) landing lag? :O

 

[BJN39]

Wait

Brawl Zelda had (20+ frames) landing lag? :O

On every aerial but NAir.

Actually, DAir got lowered too (lol so sad) to 21 landing lag frames from 24 from Brawl.

 

[Mocha]

Oh. I forgot to add Down air to that list.

 

[Milky.]

Aye I got uploaded! This was my first week with the game so it was probably some where back in November so bare with me!!

But let me tell you guys something it's the most hilarious dubs I've ever played in cause the Rosalina at the second last match starts team attacking thinking it was me but it was her partner xD MAKE SURE WATCH ALL OF IT! http://youtu.be/09bSaBeO96g

I'm the one using the tag(s): Milky (obviously) and Laiteux

 

[evmaxy54]

On every aerial but NAir.

Actually, DAir got lowered too (lol so sad) to 21 landing lag frames from 24 from Brawl.

Welp

I've learned something new today at least

 

[FullMoon]

Excuuuuuuuse me princesses, but the Greninja boards are doing a MU discussion about Zelda if anyone is interested in giving us some input: http://smashboards.com/threads/mast...-palutena-robin-peach-1-19-1-26.369356/page-9

Why did I even make that reference, I'm not even a Link main

I'm such a dork

I also was curious to see if Zelda was really as bad as I had heard, so I decided to take her for a spin in For Glory

Was considerably less bad than I thought it would be. Then again it is For Glory, my Win Rate still suffered though.

 

[Furret]

Excuuuuuuuse me princesses, but the Greninja boards are doing a MU discussion about Zelda if anyone is interested in giving us some input: http://smashboards.com/threads/mast...-palutena-robin-peach-1-19-1-26.369356/page-9

Why did I even make that reference, I'm not even a Link main

I'm such a dork

I also was curious to see if Zelda was really as bad as I had heard, so I decided to take her for a spin in For Glory

Was considerably less bad than I thought it would be. Then again it is For Glory, my Win Rate still suffered though.

2 things :
1. You don't have to cross a line though "I'm such a dork"
2. you're on the smash boards forums, we know you're a dork, we're all dorks

 

[FullMoon]

2 things :
1. You don't have to cross a line though "I'm such a dork"
2. you're on the smash boards forums, we know you're a dork, we're all dorks

Good point.

 

[Mocha]

Aye I got uploaded! This was my first week with the game so it was probably some where back in November so bare with me!!

But let me tell you guys something it's the most hilarious dubs I've ever played in cause the Rosalina at the second last match starts team attacking thinking it was me but it was her partner xD MAKE SURE WATCH ALL OF IT! http://youtu.be/09bSaBeO96g

I'm the one using the tag(s): Milky (obviously) and Laiteux

What Rosalina? Also, I saw that Mocha SD, Milky

Excuuuuuuuse me princesses, but the Greninja boards are doing a MU discussion about Zelda if anyone is interested in giving us some input: http://smashboards.com/threads/mast...-palutena-robin-peach-1-19-1-26.369356/page-9
Why did I even make that reference, I'm not even a Link main

I'm such a dork
I also was curious to see if Zelda was really as bad as I had heard, so I decided to take her for a spin in For Glory
Was considerably less bad than I thought it would be. Then again it is For Glory, my Win Rate still suffered though.

I wouldn't mind partaking in this, though would you prefer for me to respond here, there, or both? I lurk the Greninja forums anyway, so I'm fine with either.

 

[FullMoon]

I wouldn't mind partaking in this, though would you prefer for me to respond here, there, or both? I lurk the Greninja forums anyway, so I'm fine with either.

It would be better to post there just for convenience for the ninjas who don't actually frequent these boards (I at least lurk here ocassionally). And yes I know you lurk the Greninja forums, we had a discussion that took almost an entire page about Greninja being banned from OU after all =P

 

[Milky.]

H

What Rosalina? Also, I saw that Mocha SD, Milky

Haha. Yeah the second last match she goes the character Rosalina and starts attacking her own partner cause me and the other guy were both using the same zero suit

 

[Mocha]

It would be better to post there just for convenience for the ninjas who don't actually frequent these boards (I at least lurk here ocassionally). And yes I know you lurk the Greninja forums, we had a discussion that took almost an entire page about Greninja being banned from OU after all =P

Well I added some of my input. If any of you Zelda sisters have anything more to add, feel free to do so

 

[Phenomiracle]

My own personal version of Zelda's Tier List of her moves (based on general viability/greater reward over risk)

S Tier

- Up taunt
- Down tilt
- Ferrari's Wind

A Tier

- Back throw
- Back air
- Forward air

B Tier

- Side taunt
- Down throw
- Dash attack
- Forward tilt
- Forward smash
- Neutral air

C Tier

- Down air
- Down smash
- Up tilt
- Up throw
- Jab

D Tier

- Down taunt
- Up air
- Phantom
- Nayru's Love
- Forward throw

E Tier

- Roll
- Spot dodge
- Air dodge

F Tier

- Din's Fire
- Up smash

Down Taunt is S Tier. The ultimate disrespect taunt.

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

Oh god, I ran into another Zelda in Roll Glory (and not a "You play Zelda? I'll play Zelda and fail at trying beating your main with your main" mirror match). That's rare so I was happy.

Favorite moves? Up-Smash and Din's Fire. I cringed.

 

[Mocha]

Down Taunt is S Tier. The ultimate disrespect taunt.

I prefer it for high fiving, hehe

 

[Furret]

I prefer it for high fiving, hehe

that pic is 11/10 - ign

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

Down taunt have so many uses.

Saying hello, goodbye, high fives, waving at a camper, waving at someone who can't recover...

 

[BJN39]

Speaking of down taunt, recently I was on FG, and managed to hit a little Mac just over the edge with a full charged phantom slash, and so I "waved him off" as he flew away and died. :3

Another good time for the wave off is when you land a lightning kick on them at more-than-enough-to-kill percent, and they're flying all the way across the stage. Iz just like "BYE"

 

[Mocha]

Speaking of down taunt, recently I was on FG, and managed to hit a little Mac just over the edge with a full charged phantom slash, and so I "waved him off" as he flew away and died. :3

Another good time for the wave off is when you land a lightning kick on them at more-than-enough-to-kill percent, and they're flying all the way across the stage. Iz just like "BYE"

I love it when Phantom stops Captain Falcon's and Ganondorf's recoveries with the wind hitbox pushing them away after they Up B

 

[TTTTTsd]

Wind hitbox scummery is probably the most fun thing in any Smash game ever. Gust Cape, Breezy Sheet, Phantoms, Ike's Wind Neutral-B....

 

[2004Zilla]

Eww history do a proper subject like music

lol, sure......

I like history...

 

[Fernosaur]

Guys, Club Nintendo is closing down for good D:

http://club2.nintendo.com/program-notice/

 

[Shrokatii]

Wind hitbox scummery is probably the most fun thing in any Smash game ever. Gust Cape, Breezy Sheet, Phantoms, Ike's Wind Neutral-B....

I just killed a Ness today by actually just running into him. He used up b, and while he was falling trying to grab onto the ledge, I jumped, got in his way and pushed him in midair. Was hilarious

 

[SBphiloz4]

Guys, Club Nintendo is closing down for good D:

http://club2.nintendo.com/program-notice/

 

[Fireemblemfreak]

I KNOW I HATE IT BUT I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE BUT THIS View attachment 36338

I just realized, like 13 people liked this. WHY.

 

[Mocha]

We should totally compile some gifs of moments where we gimp people offstage. Lets face it... we could never brag about this in the Brawl days. It's about time we lift up our chins, and pretend be flashy that we have the tools for gimping.

 

[Furret]

We should totally compile some gifs of moments where we gimp people offstage. Lets face it... we could never brag about this in the Brawl days. It's about time we lift up our chins, and pretend be flashy that we have the tools for gimping.

talking about these tools?

 

[Mocha]

talking about these tools?

No these

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

No these

Is mustard a tool?
I'll make my way towards the exit

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

And what about this Tool?

Anyway Zelda's Dair is satisfying now. Poor Captain Falcons that dies at 40%. I also managed to gimp some characters with Nair.

Roll Glory Falcons are fun. You just need to use your neutral A to make them uneasy about how they mindlessly rush toward you.

Playing Zelda means being fearless.