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[Salad Bowl]

For matchups, what do you do against Mac? Playing against them makes me so sad, that Ftilt beats everything I try on the ground and the aerial options are garbage.

I try throwing out a phantom which walls them a bit

 

[rabbit.soaring]

For matchups, what do you do against Mac? Playing against them makes me so sad, that Ftilt beats everything I try on the ground and the aerial options are garbage.

I'm... not sure honestly. See if you can predict Ftilt and roll behind for a grab? Honestly whenever I have to play a Mac I counterpick with Prism Tower and run away like a b****

EDIT: Nayru's might work if timed well, since it has invuln frames, though if Mac predicts it you get hurt.

 

[Salad Bowl]

@ JigglyZelda003 maybe for the MU thread we could do a system like

MUs pros:
MUs cons:
Key moves in the MU:
Score:

Something like that

 

[rabbit.soaring]

@ JigglyZelda003 maybe for the MU thread we could do a system like

MUs pros:
MUs cons:
Key moves in the MU:
Score:

Something like that

And best/worst starter stages and ideal counterpicks.

 

[Hyrule Candy]

oh hi, ummmm how do I say this. Im dropping Zelda, yeah supprise huh? im maining lucina now and these boards depress me. So see ya around nice knowing yall. have a good life.

 

[Salad Bowl]

@ KuroganeHammer he's really not me

 

[TheDarkKnightNoivern]

oh hi, ummmm how do I say this. Im dropping Zelda, yeah supprise huh? im maining lucina now and these boards depress me. So see ya around nice knowing yall. have a good life.

I'm really surprised more people haven't dropped her yet after 3 games of awfulness

 

[Hyrule Candy]

yeah but I was the optomistist. but no more

 

[Salad Bowl]

Bye ed see ya in school

 

[Princess Toady]

we could go in roster order as i was thinking just jump from precieved bad matchup to an unknown number matchup so we don't stay depressed too long. roster order might be good...but then we get two back to back spacies lol

How about we start with what we perceive is a 'good' match-up (or as good as it can be, really) for Zelda ?

 

[rabbit.soaring]

Looks like the glass of optimism is half empty now. Sigh.

@ Princess Toady
The reason I want to do roster order is because it helps move things along. And makes the thread easier to reference after discussion.

 

[Hayzie]

 

[Salad Bowl]

back to the MU thread. @ JigglyZelda003 what do u think of my idea?

 

[Princess Toady]

Buf if we go by roster order, we start with Mario... Not really the best one to discuss. Usually when this type of thread is made, almost everyone wants to discuss the higher tier characters (hello sheik, rosalina, diddy) and so you're quickly demotivated by the lack of options Zelda is victim of and it does not really establish a favourable climate for discussion.

 

[rabbit.soaring]

wat you changed your pic traitor why candy why

 

[Fernosaur]

Hahahahaha, so sad to see Candy drop Zelda so soon XD.

Against Mac stay in the corners of the stage and pray he ****s up an approach.

 

[Alacion]

The nostalgia of playing Zelda in other games keeps me playing her.

 

[rabbit.soaring]

Buf if we go by roster order, we start with Mario... Not really the best one to discuss. Usually when this type of thread is made, almost everyone wants to discuss the higher tier characters (hello sheik, rosalina, diddy) and so you're quickly demotivated by the lack of options Zelda is victim of and it does not really establish a favourable climate for discussion.

Mario is fine to discuss. He actually has above average tournament representation. And discussing the high tiers first wouldn't necessarily be a good thing. A lot of matchup threads kinda fade away because they only want to discuss the most "relevant" MUs first and die out after looking at like 3 chars. And let's be honest here Zelda loses to pretty much every top tier except Rosa

 

[Salad Bowl]

Against the top tiers, sheik and diddy are bad, but i think zelda has a slight advantage of rosalina. I dont think the MUs against sheik and diddy r that bad, but they have an advantage.

I just like zeldas playstyle

 

[Princess Toady]

I basically play her because she's one of my favorite character and she has a pretty dress. But if I want to win, I feel Peach is the superior choice.

Edit : I agree about Rosalina, I don't have that much trouble fightining her. I guess we could discuss Mario then, but everyone would need to pitch in. Or maybe we shoudl do as Fujin said and wait for Apex before we start a serious thread ?

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Against the top tiers, sheik and diddy are bad, but i think zelda has a slight advantage of rosalina. I dont think the MUs against sheik and diddy r that bad, but they have an advantage.

I just like zeldas playstyle

literally the same person

can i ban your other account now

 

[Salad Bowl]

You already banned @Wii Fit Bae

 

[Salad Bowl]

Mario is fine to discuss. He actually has above average tournament representation. And discussing the high tiers first wouldn't necessarily be a good thing. A lot of matchup threads kinda fade away because they only want to discuss the most "relevant" MUs first and die out after looking at like 3 chars. And let's be honest here Zelda loses to pretty much every top tier except Rosa

Idk what to do against mario. The ones on roll glory annoy me so much they just dash attack, then they throw out random smashes. YET THEY STILL WIN OMG

 

[SBphiloz4]

WHY IS THERE ALWAYS SOOOO MUCH PEOPLE HEEEEEREEEEE!?!?! (400th post)

And tech that makes crap tier Diddy Kong more viable in Smash. Welcome back, glide tossing. c:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3_vOtY5kCc

 

[Salad Bowl]

whats the record here?

 

[Princess Toady]

Glide tossing was fun... Too bad Zelda doesn't have anything to throw, lol.

 

[BJN39]

Obviously this fell behind a little, but;

No one even discussed stages except the in general post @ BJN39 made in reguards to Japes in general.

I'm confused by this phrase, I'm pretty sure it was gdlk sistren @Rion who made the lovely post on Jungle Japes, not me. Unless you were talking about something else...?

Also, I DO think we need an MU base overhaul. I almost recommend we create a new thread and just excerpt certain parts if value from the peach discussion. I'd volunteer to make a new one, but only if you didn't want to.

Whatever happens I say we do a nominative process for what MUs we do based on who we have the most or more experience on.

 

[Salad Bowl]

Wow just make diddy better. Why do people have to discover so many things that dont benefit zelda

 

[BJN39]

Wow just make diddy better. Why do people have to discover so many things that dont benefit zelda

You KNOW, back in Brawl, Zelda had one of the longest glide tosses, it was actually quite useable in the Diddy MU. If it still exists to any extent, then it COULD be even more useful since there can only be one banana.

 

[Salad Bowl]

You KNOW, back in Brawl, Zelda had one of the longest glide tosses, it was actually quite useable in the Diddy MU. If it still exists to any extent, then it COULD be even more useful since there can only be one banana.

omg another optomistist. ugh doing it alone is hard thank you

 

[IsmaR]

WHY IS THERE ALWAYS SOOOO MUCH PEOPLE HEEEEEREEEEE!?!?! (400th post)

This isn't accounting for all of us hidden users.~

 

[Princess Toady]

I wish I couuuuld. But I really can't travel abroad cause of College.

Will you be using Palutena ?

 

[Salad Bowl]

im hoping some zelda users go. We have nairo... and i think thats it tbh. Wait isnt APEX expensive not counting the gas from driving, and food. Im broke i spent my money on starbucks and chipotle

 

[evmaxy54]

whats the record here?

Direct Hit! - Brainless God

 

[Salad Bowl]

Yeah, I might use Zelda for some friendlies if I get tired of playing her, but even then I'm probably gonna use Robin.

wanna play? I have experience in the robin MU and it would help. Also im hoping to go to apex next year

 

[Nammy12]

http://smashboards.com/rankings/smash-wii-u.8/league/teams
lol Zelda is the least used character in tournies beside miis.
And of course Diddy has more than twice the amount of wins compard to Sheik.

 

[TheDarkKnightNoivern]

http://smashboards.com/rankings/smash-wii-u.8/league/teams
lol Zelda is the least used character in tournies beside miis.
And of course Diddy has more than twice the amount of wins compard to Sheik.

Well that's depressing, WHY SAMURAI?!

 

[Salad Bowl]

woo go zelda.

 

[JigglyZelda003]

oh hi, ummmm how do I say this. Im dropping Zelda, yeah supprise huh? im maining lucina now and these boards depress me. So see ya around nice knowing yall. have a good life.

for Lucy doe? you could have at least followed the general rules and mained the Alternate dimension Zelda in the form of Palutena lol

@ JigglyZelda003 maybe for the MU thread we could do a system like

MUs pros:
MUs cons:
Key moves in the MU:
Score:

Something like that

back to the MU thread. @ JigglyZelda003 what do u think of my idea?

oh sure if everyone else is up for that type of system i'd gladly set up the format lol. i have no problem with that format either.

Obviously this fell behind a little, but;



I'm confused by this phrase, I'm pretty sure it was gdlk sistren @Rion who made the lovely post on Jungle Japes, not me. Unless you were talking about something else...?

Also, I DO think we need an MU base overhaul. I almost recommend we create a new thread and just excerpt certain parts if value from the peach discussion. I'd volunteer to make a new one, but only if you didn't want to.

Whatever happens I say we do a nominative process for what MUs we do based on who we have the most or more experience on.

was it? i have to go back and look, i'm sorry @Rion if you wrote that wonderful excerpt on Japes and i forgot you.

also if anyone doesn't have any objections to me making another matchup thread for us to start over in i will make it anew. Since i'm not able to go to many tournies i wanted to help by running the matchup thread.

You KNOW, back in Brawl, Zelda had one of the longest glide tosses, it was actually quite useable in the Diddy MU. If it still exists to any extent, then it COULD be even more useful since there can only be one banana.

Glide tossing and ledge warping two of the only times Zelda has had an AT in her favor other than the now deceased RCPG. long live Glide toss as the best AT ever.

 

[Salad Bowl]

@ JigglyZelda003 so will you make a new thread? or get a mod to delete all the posts out.

@ evmaxy54 Wanna Play?