Guide Zelda Social: But also the FE Heroes Internet Cafe

[redfeatherraven]

Giveaway was last night and the code has already been sent to the winner. Sorry bud.

Also you missed my guess in the results.

@ 「 Derk 」 4100 kills.

I didn't win. No biggie.

 

[MetaKnight956]

Giveaway was last night and the code has already been sent to the winner. Sorry bud.

Yeah, noticed that right after I posted.

 

[Lavani]

I can't seem to see the point of Mewtwo's Side-B. Even a lvl 3 cpu is able to act immediately out of it and hit me with a fair so I'm like :'Du

Just treat it like a Mario cape. Helps you recover, reflects projectiles (particularly keep it in mind after throwing Shadow Ball against characters with reflectors)

It seems like it'd be really useful for mixing up landings with B-reverses too.

 

[「 Derk 」]

So I'm about to go out, but time for a little teaser of my work, which I will post later (soon.) when I can:

I found three things that were changed on Phantom in 1.0.6! Two of which I can say with 100% certainty were changed.

Still deals 24.5% on max charge, still has the blind spots, charge time is the same, the move delay is the same... please tell me what you found because everything seems the same to me lol. I'm guessing it has to be something with knock back, angle, or phantom hp.

Edit: Now that I'm looking at it, the launch angle seems to be different. It seems to launch to the corner of the blast zone instead of around the center.

 

[Macchiato]

So what about Zelda was buffed?

 

[warionumbah2]

smh Mewtwo's need to take notes from Samus users and not fully charge their Shadow Balls. If you semi charge the Shadow Ball it deals 20% that's more than enough and your opponent won't be able to tell how large it is later in the match.

By keeping the Shadow Ball semi charged you can B reverse if your above your opponent to land safely.

How are you guys?

Glass cannon
Didn't get nerfed if anything he got buffed from one little tweak.
Got nerfed.
never found her/him threatening now he/she struggles to kill even more.
lol
>
lol his jab 1 is ass cheeks

 

[Cenizas]

Going to post this in the Diddy boards to convince them they should've chosen the original member of the DK crew:

 

[FullMoon]

- Nerfed
- Unchanged except now Up-Smash doesn't fail to connect the second hit sometimes and I guess it can hit some characters sitting on platforms when they're at 0%, not that it's very relevant.
- Still the same.
- Seems like a good MU for Greninja.

Today is a good day to be a Greninja main.

 

[UkeNicky]

Going to post this in the Diddy boards to convince them they should've chosen the original member of the DK crew:View attachment 47615

Dong Cyclone ?

 

[PUK]

So what about Zelda was buffed?

She get some small unnerf more than buff

 

[meleebrawler]

He bought the DLC and thinks his money gives him magical winning powers.

That only works in real life, not Smash.

But you can't buy Mewtwo yet, unless you consider buying two Smash games that.

 

[EODM07]

Going to post this in the Diddy boards to convince them they should've chosen the original member of the DK crew:View attachment 47615

Don't forget this too. :D

 

[redfeatherraven]

But you can't buy Mewtwo yet, unless you consider buying two Smash games that.

Don't look too deep into it. It was mostly a jab at the aforementioned FG microdong.
I'm aware he ran Mewtwo, that just felt appropriate considering.

Personally I intended to buy both games regardless, and Smash is the reason I finally got a Wii U in the first place, so in terms of spending money I only got so much to say.

Also I genuinely forgot that it isn't open to the public at large. I'm sleep deprived and bought a bunch of Mii outfits, cut me slack.

 

[「 Derk 」]

Man, Mewtwo's down tilt is crazy good for spacing and continuing combos. It has a really good reach and its super quick on start up and very little/no lag. It sets up a lot of different strings depending on where you connect the hit also. I keep forgetting up throw is a thing since I'm not use to grabbing for kills as much as grabbing to set up a kill from. Disable is a free kill on a good read and still playing around with confusion to find some sort of combo that can't be escaped. Confusion honestly feels like a "get off me" move + reflector.

 

[Lorde]

I'm loving Mewtwo so far. My only complaint is that his double jump doesn't make the WOOP noise anymore.

 

[Fernosaur]

So I'm about to go out, but time for a little teaser of my work, which I will post later (soon.) when I can:

I found three things that were changed on Phantom in 1.0.6! Two of which I can say with 100% certainty were changed.

BJN why would you do this. WAI.

I wanna know so I don't have to make any effort myself.

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

Can't wait for moo2 to die down
I want to see an updated tier list
he seems to be high mid at best

 

[BJN39]

Still deals 24.5% on max charge, still has the blind spots, charge time is the same, the move delay is the same... please tell me what you found because everything seems the same to me lol. I'm guessing it has to be something with knock back, angle, or phantom hp.

Edit: Now that I'm looking at it, the launch angle seems to be different. It seems to launch to the corner of the blast zone instead of around the center.

Wait, 24.5%? Does one of the hits do 0.5 more than just 11% or 13%? That's something that didn't show entirely on the mastercore. Which hit does an extra 0.5%? I mean, I'll check it.

As for the changes, they are mostly insignificant tiny things, and would be very hard to notice without 2 copies to compare.

Phantom Slash:

[+] The duration that the phantom is out as a meat shield post-slash has been increased by about 1/4 of a second. The increase appears to be entirely static throughout charge, AKA, it's a 1/4 second Phantom body shield duration increase at ALL charge levels. I did the two versions in slow-mo, side-by-side at the exact same 'time' (With a range of error of maybe 2 frames at most. I used 1/4 L press to synch them up.) and on the 1.0.5 copy, the Phantom clearly disappears first, no mis-timing involved. It's a buff however you look at it, but it's pretty insignificant.

[+] The release animation might have an endlag decrease of no more than 4 frames. Since someone had mentioned doing their own comparison and getting this result, I went hard at this one to make EXACTLY sure nothing was up. The result was that for sure you could cancel the animation at a time different than in 1.0.5, Zelda's pose was ever so slightly different. The maximum difference I could see is 4 frames. The difference is annoyingly insignificant, but I believe it's truly there. >_>

[-] If your Phantom is destroyed, it takes roughly 3 seconds longer before you're allowed to spawn another. Super easy to see tbh, I'm surprised we missed it. The time increase is around 3.5 seconds. Super disappointing, but I don't see it being a big issue.

 

[Lavani]

How are you guys?

got dumped on, did not, is decent at worst

I'm ****ing terrific.

Though the patch notes thread is giving me headaches, apparently Luigi killing Mewtwo with dthrow>cyclone at 110% isn't proof that cyclone wasn't nerfed.

 

[「 Derk 」]

If you go into training mode and use a fully charged phantom twice it will deal 49% damage total. 24% the first time and 25% the second time. I never bothered to pay attention which hit has the decimal but it's there.

 

[EODM07]

Man, Mewtwo's down tilt is crazy good for spacing and continuing combos. It has a really good reach and its super quick on start up and very little/no lag. It sets up a lot of different strings depending on where you connect the hit also. I keep forgetting up throw is a thing since I'm not use to grabbing for kills as much as grabbing to set up a kill from. Disable is a free kill on a good read and still playing around with confusion to find some sort of combo that can't be escaped. Confusion honestly feels like a "get off me" move + reflector.

Just be careful with Confusion. Since they could get a NAir out to intercept you when they just begin to go into their free fall animation to trade with you, or jump away to safety. Or just Air Dodge and take the Landing Lag only to get intercepted themselves.

 

[McKnightlíght]

Omg, I found this gem I made the summer before 9th grade. It is my list of 3rd party characters I wanted for Brawl.

http://youtu.be/G2Uut5BwxVU

Easily my greatest creation.

 

[Ffamran]

Is the 1.0.6 data dump out yet?

 

[UkeNicky]

Wait, 24.5%? Does one of the hits do 0.5 more than just 11% or 13%? That's something that didn't show entirely on the mastercore. Which hit does an extra 0.5%? I mean, I'll check it.

As for the changes, they are mostly insignificant tiny things, and would be very hard to notice without 2 copies to compare.

Phantom Slash:

[+] The duration that the phantom is out as a meat shield post-slash has been increased by about 1/4 of a second. The increase appears to be entirely static throughout charge, AKA, it's a 1/4 second Phantom body shield duration increase at ALL charge levels. I did the two versions in slow-mo, side-by-side at the exact same 'time' (With a range of error of maybe 2 frames at most. I used 1/4 L press to synch them up.) and on the 1.0.5 copy, the Phantom clearly disappears first, no mis-timing involved. It's a buff however you look at it, but it's pretty insignificant.

[+] The release animation might have an endlag decrease of no more than 4 frames. Since someone had mentioned doing their own comparison and getting this result, I went hard at this one to make EXACTLY sure nothing was up. The result was that for sure you could cancel the animation at a time different than in 1.0.5, Zelda's pose was ever so slightly different. The maximum difference I could see is 4 frames. The difference is annoyingly insignificant, but I believe it's truly there. >_>

[-] If your Phantom is destroyed, it takes roughly 3 seconds longer before you're allowed to spawn another. Super easy to see tbh, I'm surprised we missed it. The time increase is around 3.5 seconds. Super disappointing, but I don't see it being a big issue.

Is his HP the same o: ?

 

[Lavani]

Is the 1.0.6 data dump out yet?

Dantarion's not back till next week iirc

 

[EODM07]

I feel like if you Disable your opponent off stage, it'll be so fun and trollish. Just sending that little bit back will do wonders... Unless you're one with godlike recovery like Pac-Man or Villager. :V

 

[warionumbah2]

Its funny how spaces better than and gets more reward out of his...everything than .

I think M2 better than Charizard and Jiggly, maybe Lucario but he's not better than Greninja and Pikachu(especially this ******).

Like Back and Forward throw do 11% fresh, Down throw does 9% and his Up throw does 12%. then you got 2% pummels. His damage per hit is Ganon level, can someone dump Ganons damage output please? Its silly how Jab 1 --> Dtilt --> Uair or Fair does 20-21% hit confirm Gods have blessed this one.

got dumped on, did not, is decent at worst

I'm ****ing terrific.

Though the patch notes thread is giving me headaches, apparently Luigi killing Mewtwo with dthrow>cyclone at 110% isn't proof that cyclone wasn't nerfed.

Too many placebo posts, the moment they say "is it me" or "i feel as if" you know its gonna be dumb as hell.

I feel like if you Disable your opponent off stage, it'll be so fun and trollish. Just sending that little bit back will do wonders... Unless you're one with godlike recovery like Pac-Man or Villager. :V

Doesn't jab 1 hit confirm into Disable? Never tried it.

Greninja can kill Mewtwo at 80% without rage with sweetspot Up-Smash lol.

I'm pretty sure Greninja is going to have an advantage against Mewtwo.

Alot of characters can kill Mewtwo below 100%.

 

[kenniky]

Yo patch is cool but I still have like 3 hours of replays left /cry

@berserker. @ Tilk @ Cenizas @ redfeatherraven I'll pick the winner when I get home and can find the other email (I only got one?)

Mewtwo seems cool. dtilts for days apparently :D

 

[FullMoon]

Greninja can kill Mewtwo at 80% without rage with sweetspot Up-Smash lol.

I'm pretty sure Greninja is going to have an advantage against Mewtwo.

 

[Kofu]

I've been at work and won't be able to play more with Mewtwo for another couple of hours but he seems decent. Good spacing game, DTilt is great (gotta be better st working DTilta into my game), Jab 1 seems good but his rapid jab seems like you could DI out of it. They took away his straight green palette so no shiny Mewtwo.

Also, y'all have probably seen it but Aerodrome said weighs 72. That means he's lighter than . My reaction is somewhere between , , , and .

 

[Fernosaur]

Wait, 24.5%? Does one of the hits do 0.5 more than just 11% or 13%? That's something that didn't show entirely on the mastercore. Which hit does an extra 0.5%? I mean, I'll check it.

As for the changes, they are mostly insignificant tiny things, and would be very hard to notice without 2 copies to compare.

Phantom Slash:

[+] The duration that the phantom is out as a meat shield post-slash has been increased by about 1/4 of a second. The increase appears to be entirely static throughout charge, AKA, it's a 1/4 second Phantom body shield duration increase at ALL charge levels. I did the two versions in slow-mo, side-by-side at the exact same 'time' (With a range of error of maybe 2 frames at most. I used 1/4 L press to synch them up.) and on the 1.0.5 copy, the Phantom clearly disappears first, no mis-timing involved. It's a buff however you look at it, but it's pretty insignificant.

[+] The release animation might have an endlag decrease of no more than 4 frames. Since someone had mentioned doing their own comparison and getting this result, I went hard at this one to make EXACTLY sure nothing was up. The result was that for sure you could cancel the animation at a time different than in 1.0.5, Zelda's pose was ever so slightly different. The maximum difference I could see is 4 frames. The difference is annoyingly insignificant, but I believe it's truly there. >_>

[-] If your Phantom is destroyed, it takes roughly 3 seconds longer before you're allowed to spawn another. Super easy to see tbh, I'm surprised we missed it. The time increase is around 3.5 seconds. Super disappointing, but I don't see it being a big issue.

Lol, why would they even bother with these changes? :'D

 

[Tilk]

Yo patch is cool but I still have like 3 hours of replays left /cry

@berserker. @ Tilk @ Cenizas @ redfeatherraven I'll pick the winner when I get home and can find the other email (I only got one?)

Mewtwo seems cool. dtilts for days apparently :D

Take your time. No rush. ^^

Played against a Mewtwo a little while ago...

I don't think he liked that Sonic wipes the floor with MewTwo sometimes...

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Moo too is pretty light

 

[「 Derk 」]

Nair covers air dodges completely due to its lingering hit boxes. It's pretty amazing at edge guarding things like diddy kong also (beats monkey flip). Down throw → Disable feels like a really solid option to punish baited air dodges. Down throw → fair feels pretty good, could possibly be escaped by DI, not really sure. Shadowball's sliding shenanigans is so much fun. I love shooting a shadowball in the opposite direction to quickly push myself towards the opponent. There is very little end lag after the slide so this allows you to slide your attacks similar to a dacus. The character honestly just feels right to me. Confusion could be a tad quicker so it's easier to reflect projectiles but I won't complain.

 

[Fernosaur]

Aero can I mention how much I love that your avatar isn't even properly centered? <3

 

[Cenizas]

So I'm back to playing Metroid, I took a break for a while because I was lost in Norfair for a long time and it had me flustered. Lo and behold, I find a new area and OG Space Waifu Ridley. Hallelujah. He was much easier than Kraid, which I found to be really surprising. So now I'm free to get Motherbrain. Metroids aren't even a problem. I lost like 3 E-Tanks fighting my first one, but I adjusted to their patterns. But oh my god, the Death Cheerios of Death, please. Get out. You're not even a real enemy but you're the most frustrating part of the game. I'm glad SMB3 Waffles are nothing like you.

 

[Furret]

I love all these super accurate day 1 impressions of mewtwo everyone is posting because I really care what people think on day one impressions

Dantarion's not back till next week iirc

dang

 

[Lorde]

So what are you gorls' favorite Mewtwo palettes?

My list is probably:
1. Seafoam
2. Yellow
3. Brown
4. Blue
5. The rest

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

Favorite Mewtwo palettes?

1) Blue
2) Brown
3) Normal

Dark is already overrated.

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

So what are you gorls' favorite Mewtwo palettes?

My list is probably:
1. Seafoam
2. Yellow
3. Brown
4. Blue
5. The rest

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