Zelda Marathon 2012

[EverAlert]

Yo. So it's a bit late on the planning front but I'm making this thread to help organise the zelda marathon this year. Gords has graciously offered his apartment for use by the sydney boys so i think using his epic industrial-grade internet is a no-brainer.

The marathon will be held on January 5th-6th with setup/cooldown days before and after.
Anyone who wants to come and watch in person is welcome to do so on the condition that you do not behave obnoxiously.

For those who don't know this is a 48-hour marathon where we play through the 3D zelda games back-to-back and sleep-deprive ourselves on stream in the name of charity. We've gotten pretty good at them over time; with any leftover time we'll be playing other games too. Here's a list of stuff we could be doing (look at this pastebin link for the most up-to-date version):

main games
Ocarina of Time — JP All Dungeons (MST)
Majora's Mask — US Any%
The Wind Waker — JP Any% (No Tuner)
Twilight Princess — US Any%

bonus round candidates/ideas
Skyward Sword — US Any% NG+
Super Metroid — Any%
Banjo-Kazooie — 100%
Super Mario 64 — 70 Star
Four Swords Adventures — 4-Player Any%
The Wind Waker — Master Sword Race


As for perth/usa involvement, I assume they'll be doing their own marathons again this year. However I think if last year taught us anything, it's that the way sydney players want to play through these games is too drastically different to the others to treat this as a race anymore.

That said, marteh and crew, if you want to do something like time your marathon alongside ours and cross-publicize each other throughout then I think that would be awesome. Just let me know what dates work best for you too. :D


Let's get this **** crackalackin'.

 

[escro]

i really dont have much preference but ofc later means more time for me to get my **** down cuz atm im stuck at 12 mins in. not good for a 5 hour run lol
maybe wait for gords to narrow it down seeing as his place

 

[Dekar289]

put me down for link's crossbow training

 

[Gords]

Escro, the dates listed there are the dates that I have available for and most likely will hold my weekend meets, I said EA can use any of those for the Zelda marathon.

 

[Redact]

timic beat oot for the first time ever like 2 weeks ago u guys r gone

 

[Dekar289]

melb doin their own marathon
i think jelly belly balistic beans on wii has a sorta similar storyline to a link to the past fanfic i read once let's race

 

[Invisi]

I'd consider giving Skyward Sword a go, assuming I'd have time to learn it.

 

[EverAlert]

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[Redact]

jelly belly balistic beans

That sounds like the true gaming messiah

 

[EverAlert]

lol seriously john2k4?

 

[TakFR]

I can see the mods are being their usual selves >_>

Timic can marathon all those games in under 4 hours u guys r done

 

[Redact]

can we just play dota instead i like dota

 

[TakFR]

Yeah let's just do dota marathon instead

 

[Invisi]

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Now I wanna know what I missed =O

 

[S.D]

I'm guessing you guys marathon without glitches?

 

[Attila_]

i'd be guessing they marathon with plenty of glitches. i watched that everalert guy before, he crazy.

 

[EverAlert]

yup, plenty of glitches. :D

edit: wait attila are you pryde? i thought that was nicks lol...

 

[Dekar289]

so whats the criteria for game completion
are you getting to the credits as quick as possible?

 

[Timic83]

can i do oot i beat it recently and i know glitches for child...
melb vs syd sounds legit

 

[Dekar289]

timic and a camera sounds legit
remember that documentary

 

[ciaza]

how does one donate?

 

[EverAlert]

so whats the criteria for game completion
are you getting to the credits as quick as possible?

yep, just get to credits. since oot is broken as hell and can be finished in 20-something minutes unrestricted, for it specifically you will need to beat all the dungeons too (step in blue warps/do ganon trials).

how does one donate?

i'll be setting up a webpage for team sydney at some point, there'll be a donation thingy on there once that's ready. not sure if it'll be a shared donation thing with perth/usa like last year or just a direct thing to childs play, time will tell.

 

[Attila_]

yup, plenty of glitches. :D

edit: wait attila are you pryde? i thought that was nicks lol...

loool

*pr7de

doesnt let me use pr!de

 

[Dekar289]

since oot is broken as hell and can be finished in 20-something minutes unrestricted, for it specifically you will need to beat all the dungeons too (step in blue warps/do ganon trials).

is this where you and usa differ

 

[EverAlert]

the usa team we've raced in the past don't like excessive glitches, so they pretty much just play it straight the whole way; basically all dungeons glitchless (for all games). the oot distinction is not so much a usa thing but rather a thing preventing the run from being too short/boring (we are trying to raise money after all). the other games are not so broken and do not require artificial lengthening. for the record, what i outlined above is an actual oot category run by the zelda speedrunning community.

tl;dr where we differ is our stance on using glitches

 

[Timic83]

so, an MST run?

 

[EverAlert]

oh snap i forgot timic actually knows what zsr/srl is. yes, it is mst.

 

[asianaussie]

i vote for bottle adventure

bottlessssssssss

actually, screw zelda, play banjo kazooie

 

[S.D]

Do you need AR or something to do Majoras mask with all that weird bomb perpetual motion and backflipping bombs up in the air n ****??

 

[Invisi]

actually, screw zelda, play banjo kazooie

I would totally do this.

 

[SummonerAU]

Do you need AR or something to do Majoras mask with all that weird bomb perpetual motion and backflipping bombs up in the air n ****??

Nah, you can do a trick called "Infinite Sword glitch" which makes it so your sword is always 'swinging' which prevents you from falling off ledges and combine it with the fact that when bombs explode and hit you, they put you on a bit of ground so that when you have Infinite Sword glitch and backflip and get hit by a bomb in midair, the sword glitch stops you from falling off the bit of ground getting hit by the bomb puts you on and you end up floating there.

(this is from memory and may be wrong)

 

[Marteh]

Nah, you can do a trick called "Infinite Sword glitch" which makes it so your sword is always 'swinging' which prevents you from falling off ledges and combine it with the fact that when bombs explode and hit you, they put you on a bit of ground so that when you have Infinite Sword glitch and backflip and get hit by a bomb in midair, the sword glitch stops you from falling off the bit of ground getting hit by the bomb puts you on and you end up floating there.

(this is from memory and may be wrong)

Pretty much, however you need to sheild the bomb or itll knock you out of it, taking damage reverts it.


Either way I just saw this now, but yeah marathons this year are a bit strange.
The USA team is actually all over the world atm so they're not doing a run.

As for us...Well half our regular team is in Japan for study, not even joking (Vlade and MTGod). Due to this and we're planning a gaming marathon however not sure if it'll be Zelda this year due to that. We're talking about maybe a different marathon of games this year just for the fun of it.

Either when you have a date I'll be checking it out, and will keep you posted on what's happening.

Oh and I'll still challenge you to Majora's Mask if my recording gear is here on time, breaking that game is hilarious.

 

[EverAlert]

*stuff* (this is from memory and may be wrong)

ISG prevents you from falling as long as you are in a grounded state. Shielding a source of damage puts you in a grounded state (it doesn't check to see if you are actually grounded before doing this). When hovering you can't move around (there's no ground to move onto) so the only way to change your position is by backflipping or sidehopping, which obviously puts you into an aerial state, so to counteract this and gain height/"hover" you time the explosion of the bomb as your damage source with the peak of your backflip, and shield it to put you back in the grounded state and stop moving.

S.D -- OOT/MM are both really crazy, but everything you see is possible without AR or other cheat devices (the speedrunning community bans them). It's simply a stroke of luck that the few things that make OOT so broken and quick don't work in MM, cause in general tricks in those two games almost always cross over.

actually, screw zelda, play banjo kazooie

lol what are you, some cosmo fanboy?
(spoilers: we'll probably finish well before the traditional 48hr limit so there'll probably be extra non-zelda stuff at the end)

 

[asianaussie]

hey, i watched cosmo's entire wind waker run and wasn't bored even once

it was surprising even for me

 

[Timic83]

banjo marathon (including nuts and bolts and gruntys revenge)
make it happen

 

[asianaussie]

why would you marathon a series with only two games

well, three if you count diddy kong racing

 

[Marteh]

Sounds good. Btw, any idea if MTGod will still be over there mid-jan onward?

From memory he's there until around March or April

 

[Gords]

hey, i watched cosmo's entire wind waker run and wasn't bored even once

it was surprising even for me

Which one, the English tuner run that Cosmo put on YouTube with commentary is soooooo dated now and is no longer the record being beaten by demoon9 ( who only played that category recently to get a good time). You should watch the latest Japanese tuner runs that Cosmo and demoon9 have done, stuff in there will blow your mind (not OOT mind blowing but still awesome).

Spoiler

take particular note on how they now skip Helmaroc king,

yeah that's right EA, I went there, lol

 

[Scabe]

Sorry to barge in and this is kinda unrelated but seeing as you guys are into Zelda, I'm doing a Let's Play of Skyward Sword: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVnjeQfFXRg&feature=youtu.be

 

[Gords]

i dont know how many of you know about this but i am extremely interested in going to see the The Legend of Zelda Symphony of the Goddesses on the 1st or 2nd feb. Info can be found on the Sydney Symphony website or on the Opera House website

how many others would be interested?