Your bad habits with Lucas

[JigglyZelda003]

Nooo, trust me, it can not reach the same distance. I know from much experience in trying this with Lucas while still in "samus mode".

o rly? it must just be my eyes then. i really need new glasses. XD

 

[Keoki]

i dont main lucus but i use him sometimes. my worst habit is messing up pkt2. lol. since its the only recovery in the game (besides nesses) that makes you control something to hit yourself, and im used to normal recoveries where you just aim at the ledge. because of this, i forget to curve my pkt around and hit myself with it. so my pkt goes up toward the ledge and i slowly fall to my death lololol

 

[Darkwashu]

but Lucas tether can reach almost the same distance i think. it auto extends then shrinks.

Lucas has the shortest of all the tether grab recoveries...

And,I find myself using the dair approach WAY to much

 

[Bane84]

I'm not a Lucas user, but I see other Lucas users begin a match with PK Fire far too often...

 

[FlatSoda]

I guess I wouldn't really have any bad habits with lucas.

but using my USmash when I'm desperate/losing too much is a bad habit.
the nasty nasty lagggg.

 

[Ferro De Lupe]

I have a bad habit of NOT grabbing...

And it's not just with Lucas. My grab rate has decreased almost 100% since I switched from Melee to Brawl.

I don't know why that is.

 

[Thunderbolt333]

I'm a little addicted to pk fire lol.I just like to see them burn.

 

[Byuusan]

PK thunder myself off teh stage, gotta love that

 

[Phelix08]

I always always attack after grabbing the ledge. Idk why, but i have to be consciously thinking about or else I just reflexively press A.

And I do the same thing someone else said. If I really want to hit someone with a f smash, for example, I just do it over and over again..

 

[ZMan]

I have a power to ram Lucas into the side of ANY stage with PKT2. Whether it's Smashville, Lylat,Poke Stadium, I have probably rammed into the side somehow.

 

[ParanoidDrone]

I have a power to ram Lucas into the side of ANY stage with PKT2. Whether it's Smashville, Lylat,Poke Stadium, I have probably rammed into the side somehow.

What about the Halberd before you land on the ship? Or Delfino Plaza? <_<

 

[PKPower]

Less Nair, more Dair.

Less Fthrow, more Bthrow for damage.

Pivot grab -> Dthrow is a good killer on most of the cast at ~130% (kills MK at about 130%)

PSI Magnet more for the knockback. Can kill about as well as Dthrow can, and can catch some people off guard. I find it great for edgeguarding because you get an air stall effect and you can aim it so the enemy will fall into it. Then you can release it and they will get knocked pretty far back.

Less Usmash. Usmash is only good for when the enemy has made a major mistake, otherwise Fsmash and Dsmash are the best killer smashes.

Yeah, that's about all I try to make myself remember.

 

[Dxt XXII]

Less Nair, more Dair.

Less Fthrow, more Bthrow for damage.

Pivot grab -> Dthrow is a good killer on most of the cast at ~130% (kills MK at about 130%)

PSI Magnet more for the knockback. Can kill about as well as Dthrow can, and can catch some people off guard. I find it great for edgeguarding because you get an air stall effect and you can aim it so the enemy will fall into it. Then you can release it and they will get knocked pretty far back.

Less Usmash. Usmash is only good for when the enemy has made a major mistake, otherwise Fsmash and Dsmash are the best killer smashes.

Yeah, that's about all I try to make myself remember.

Edge guarding with psi mag can be usefull but punished by chars who fly. Its a really usefull approach against ness, though.

Oh and something else that happens to me sometimes is if I'm on one side of the stage, knock the person to the other side, run towards them and try to PKT1 edgeguard. I forget to cancel the dash so I slide off.

 

[Aqueus]

Going for the shield-grab too often, and using PK Fire just one too many times.

 

[Trozz]

Not enough pivot grab.

 

[legion598]

spamming n-air and not using d-air enough

 

[Star Lucas]

I have a power to ram Lucas into the side of ANY stage with PKT2. Whether it's Smashville, Lylat,Poke Stadium, I have probably rammed into the side somehow.

I most often ram end to end of a stage with the PKT2. My oponents easily dodge it xD.

After getting through that bad habit, I created another (bad?) habbit: I SFFL Na a lot.

 

[Howard Johnson]

Up Smash and the hope that someone will walk into it and NOT beat the crap out of me because of the delay.

 

[goodkid]

I don't main lucas, but have you guys tried the pivot grab,? it works really well with Yoshi!

 

[Trozz]

It's pretty much the same thing for Lucas as it is for Yoshi. Just less lag. And I'm horrible at it (pushing over and z at the same time causes a roll).

 

[JigglyZelda003]

yeah it is kinda the same and i don't have a grab button so its really hard for me to do it regularly.

 

[Omair]

I don't tilt the stick enough for a PK Thunder and use PK Freeze and fall to my death. Or I rotate PK Thunder too fast and it goes all over the place

 

[dawgbowl]

I never, EVER use PK freeze even when a great opportunity presents itself

I need to try and use it.

 

[Umandsf]

I tend to PK Fire a few too many times. Also, I use Nair far too little (but I have that problem with all characters; not trained well enough to let go of a stick before pressing a button).

 

[Veril]

PK accidents!

PKFreeze: the scourge of the b-stick. I've pretty much gotten past this annoying affect, but now I find it more difficult to b-stick neutral specials as other characters.

Doing a reverse magnet pull as opposed to a wavelanded magnet pull.

Approaching with shFair. Force of (bad) habit.

 

[PinkMarshMallow]

I keep doing Pk fire just for fun, it annoy my friend which I think is hilarious but sometime he find a way to punish me for spamming =P and my dair =.=

Smile

 

[Gaussis]

My mistakes/bad habits are the following:
-Too many dair approaches
-Not enough nairs
-PKF too much
-Fair against shielded opponents
-When going for the kill, I fsmash like there's no tomorrow
-Not enough tilts
-When I get desperate, I turn to PKT (**** you Ness preference)
-When I get really desperate, I use PKT2 (now that is ridiculous)
-I try to beat characters in the air

I guess that's it.

 

[Darkwashu]

I recently have been abusing Up Smash near like 70%, <_<.

At least I hit it....1/50 chances of hitting arent so bad, right?

 

[Iron Mushroom]

I use up A smash when I wanna use the regular up A attack a lot

 

[Barge]

I use up A smash when I wanna use the regular up A attack a lot

you mean uptilt?

 

[DemonicTrilogy]

Wow, I also never use Up-smash because of all of the threads on how slow it is...

 

[latios117]

One of my bad habbits is up smashing to much. Also even though I have b-stick on, I don't use it.

 

[.CMW.]

I often attempt a Dair or Bair spike for the "coolness" factor in my kills. I attempt this WAY too often.

.CMW.

 

[NeoZero]

Even though I don't play him often, I somehow manage to wavebounce/b-stick myself off the stage. I have no idea why I do that

 

[Zephron]

Having Lucas being my second main, I found this thread really helpful.
Most of the posts here reflect my problems, but let's see...

Less dair, more nair.

Use more bair, dont be afraid to spike (I dont ever go for the bair spike)

Grab a little more, little more pivot grab (yes, more!)

Stop Usmashing whenever a PK freeze hits. (I'm good at mindgames with this, so it hits a decent bit, and I'm always trying to Usmash even though they're too far away. Maybe another PK freeze is the best option?

Stop smashing just to kill people. There are other ways... like grabbing! I can so relate to you guys when you talk about "ruts" thats a huge habit, and is prolly couldve won so much more if I didn't do this.

(Q: Which of Lucas's grabs kill the fastest? Fthrow or Dthrow?)

Tether grab more, the RIGHT way! (I use Sheik too, so I can kinda relate to you samus people)

 

[JigglyZelda003]

usually i go for the down throw, around 150%. even if it doesn't kill them the follow up of pkt will lol.

 

[Iron Mushroom]

Also, sometimes I use PK Freeze randomly..... It's hard to explain -.-;

 

[Queen Zelda]

Also, sometimes I use PK Freeze randomly..... It's hard to explain -.-;

I do that sometimes when trying to do PK Fire.

I guess one bad habit of mine when I play Lucas is PK Thundering myself off the edge, or bouncing off from it.

 

[Zephron]

I do that sometimes when trying to do PK Fire.

I guess one bad habit of mine when I play Lucas is PK Thundering myself off the edge, or bouncing off from it.

Yeah. That happens a decent bit when I use it offensively. Bad Lucas!

But yesterday I made the most amazing recovery I've ever made!

I was completely underneath Lylat Cruise, about underneath the middle of the stage, and I couldn't see myself. My opponent assumed me dead so he didn't grab edge. He was near it though. I PK thundered, grabbed the edge, (WOAH!) and shocked him a decent ways back. Then I later managed to dair spike him and win ^_^

Idk if you guys have done something better, but for me that was pretty awesome.

 

[Dxt XXII]

^^Something cool that happened to me was that I was getting 3 stocked by a kirby and was on my last life, and we were on the bottom corner of FD off stage, so I just hit kirby and pkt recovered (I swear, one more millimeter and I would have missed the edge). I won the match though. Greatest comeback ever