Blah, I don't B-stick so I can't do the ATs. I need to have lagless smashes since it's like the only way I can beat out my cousin's MK Nair. The guy goes to VT and trains with people like Azen and Chillin. I can usually get a stock or two off when he whiffs a glide attack and I get him with uber Usmash range, but he usually buffers in other crap so unless I time it just right it's nigh impossible to get the KO. I did a magnet pull to make him whiff two grabs in a row, since he's used to me shielding instead of rolling or sidestepping, and sweetspotted the stick. Again, against a good MK I can't deal with the half-second or so of lag on my kill moves. Magnet's hitbox is too small to KO with usually and his aerial game is way, way too broken to attempt a spike or Fair kill. Freakin' Meta Knight. Lucas has a great aerial game, but the fact that MK's aerials seem designed to counter mine makes my only option a rather crappy ground game. I usually get KOs through whiffed glide attacks or powershielded Utilts to my own Ftilt sweetspot.