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You Laugh You Lose: Gentlemen's Club Edition

CRASHiC

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You're...you're kidding, right?

No one can ACTUALLY be this weeaboo.
I'm not weeaboo, I favor all the world's animation over Americans. American animation is 60 years behind. It can be summed up easily as talking animals redoing old stories with racial profiling inserted. Pixar, Disney, its all a joke in comparison to the beauty of animation that exist outside of this country. We don't take animation seriously, and until we do, I won't take American animation seriously, because its a ****ing joke, nothing more, nothing less.
 

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I'm not weeaboo, I favor all the world's animation over Americans. American animation is 60 years behind. It can be summed up easily as talking animals redoing old stories with racial profiling inserted. Pixar, Disney, its all a joke in comparison to the beauty of animation that exist outside of this country. We don't take animation seriously, and until we do, I won't take American animation seriously, because its a ****ing joke, nothing more, nothing less.
Okay I'm all for foreign animation, and thanks reminding me I still need to see persepolis (I ALMOST rented it yesterday), but come on you are totally undercutting american animation.

You just described old school dreamworks animation, which that fits to a T. Even dreamworks has come a long way, though. How To Train Your Dragon was a fantastic film, imo, with a surprisingly great score. Every Pixar film over the last several years has been amazing as well. Up, Wall-E, and Monsters Inc. didn't even fit your description vaguely.

Maybe it would be better to say YOU'RE 60 years behind in american animation? ;)

 

CRASHiC

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Bull ****, Pixar is covered in the same boring story format that american animation has been shvolving out since its dawn with Disney. Its all tired bull **** with no value whatsoever.
 

AlcyoNite

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Do I hear haters?
I know u *****z did not just hate on mah pixar?

If anything, Pixar is the beacon of hope for American animation.

Did u mother ****ers even watch Ratatouille? Or UP!!!!!?????

Those movies were done with so much finesse that I was near tears by the end (which IMO is saying a bunch for American animation).

Im with the whole **** American animation thing, but leave Pixar the **** out.

Also, Nick's Avatar series is a pretty good shot at an american anime
 

CRASHiC

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LAMO I lost. Good way of disproving everything I said about american animation. Great examples, they disprove my claim that american animation is old stories with racial profiles and talking animals. Yeah, a talking rat, a mean french woman, a fat chef, a talking dog, a talking dog, and an annoying fat asian kid.
 

AlcyoNite

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LAMO I lost. Good way of disproving everything I said about american animation. Great examples, they disprove my claim that american animation is old stories with racial profiles and talking animals. Yeah, a talking rat, a mean french woman, a fat chef, a talking dog, a talking dog, and an annoying fat asian kid.
lol we are never going to get along :psycho:
 

Winnar

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LAMO I lost. Good way of disproving everything I said about american animation. Great examples, they disprove my claim that american animation is old stories with racial profiles and talking animals. Yeah, a talking rat, a mean french woman, a fat chef, a talking dog, a talking dog, and an annoying fat asian kid.
Just because it's a trope doesn't necessarily make it bad.

And just because the movies have tropes in them doesn't automatically make the movies bad (even if they all were to have the same trope), as long as they aren't relying on a single trope for their entire success.

I still think it's a tremendous stretch to discredit the entirety of Pixar (much less ALL American animation) based on the continued use of a single, accessible trope.

Also, when you talk about the asian kid in Up, what racial characteristics are you referring to, exactly? More importantly, what about him made you think that his character revolved solely around racial profiling? I'm not exactly sure how you could even come to that conclusion; he seemed very race-neutral to me (other than his appearance). I don't know what part of him as a character you thought they drew from his being asian.

...anyway

The difference between old school Dreamworks and Pixar is that while both often use the talking animal trope, Dreamworks repeatedly abuses and relies on it to sell their films. Hence the previous image "And they all make this face"

I'm hoping How To Train Your Dragons means a new future future for the company. Hopefully they will continue to take film making seriously, rather than the easy cash-ins they've been getting away with for the last decade or so (which is what I assume is the cause of all this bitterness you have towards American animation).

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also here's an image so I don't get banned

 

AlcyoNite

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Just because it's a trope doesn't necessarily make it bad.

And just because the movies have tropes in them doesn't automatically make the movies bad (even if they all were to have the same trope), as long as they aren't relying on a single trope for their entire success.

I still think it's a tremendous stretch to discredit the entirety of Pixar (much less ALL American animation) based on the continued use of a single, accessible trope.

Also, when you talk about the asian kid in Up, what racial characteristics are you referring to, exactly? More importantly, what about him made you think that his character revolved solely around racial profiling? I'm not exactly sure how you could even come to that conclusion; he seemed very race-neutral to me (other than his appearance). I don't know what part of him as a character you thought they drew from his being asian.

...anyway

The difference between old school Dreamworks and Pixar is that while both often use the talking animal trope, Dreamworks repeatedly abuses and relies on it to sell their films. Hence the previous image "And they all make this face"

I'm hoping How To Train Your Dragons means a new future future for the company. Hopefully they will continue to take film making seriously, rather than the easy cash-ins they've been getting away with for the last decade or so (which is what I assume is the cause of all this bitterness you have towards American animation).

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also here's an image so I don't get banned

after just taking a Logic final, the flaws in his logic were so abundant that i didnt even want to address them. ty for saving me the headache (*proceeds to get coffee and another day and a half headache*)

Basically, **** finals
 

Winnar

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after just taking a Logic final, the flaws in his logic were so abundant that i didnt even want to address them. ty for saving me the headache (*proceeds to get coffee and another day and a half headache*)

Basically, **** finals
lol I was like

FFFFFFFFFFFFF

then I realized you weren't talking about me

then I :D'd

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p much wombo combo of the century right here
 

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If we're talking about horrid trends in animation, let's not forget everyone makes these mistakes.

where is Japan currently? I think it's currently in a MOE fad.

I HAET this fad.

 

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American animation isn't behind.

Just everyone generally likes the same thing in america, therefore we give the same thing. They have no reason to change because profit is always given.
 

ihavespaceblondes

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If we're talking about horrid trends in animation, let's not forget everyone makes these mistakes.

where is Japan currently? I think it's currently in a MOE fad.

I HAET this fad.

I apologize in advance to those people who expect my posts to be accompanied by pictures that are actually funny.


Translators note: It's called moe**** for a reason.
 

CRASHiC

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Find me a single piece of American animation film as complex and important as Persepolis. Find me a single American animation whose visual creativeness comes anywhere close to that of the film Mind Game. The subject matter explored by American animation is mother ****ing pitiful, and the closest thing to inventive animation is coming out soly from the creators of Flapjack and Adventure Time. American animation has remained unchanged for decades now, telling the same old tired stories, and nearly void of any sort of innovation. Its ****ing child play compared to the rest of the world, and you can excuse it as "making a profit" or sticking to a valid formula, because both simply go to prove my point, that American animation doesn't take itself seriously. It sees no reason to invest in itself, and so it has stagnated into a ****ing cess pool of mediocre **** that lacks in any sort of artistic spirit.
 

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Find me a single piece of American animation film as complex and important as Persepolis. Find me a single American animation whose visual creativeness comes anywhere close to that of the film Mind Game. The subject matter explored by American animation is mother ****ing pitiful, and the closest thing to inventive animation is coming out soly from the creators of Flapjack and Adventure Time. American animation has remained unchanged for decades now, telling the same old tired stories, and nearly void of any sort of innovation. Its ****ing child play compared to the rest of the world, and you can excuse it as "making a profit" or sticking to a valid formula, because both simply go to prove my point, that American animation doesn't take itself seriously. It sees no reason to invest in itself, and so it has stagnated into a ****ing cess pool of mediocre **** that lacks in any sort of artistic spirit.
 

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Find me a single piece of American animation film as complex and important as Persepolis. Find me a single American animation whose visual creativeness comes anywhere close to that of the film Mind Game. The subject matter explored by American animation is mother ****ing pitiful, and the closest thing to inventive animation is coming out soly from the creators of Flapjack and Adventure Time. American animation has remained unchanged for decades now, telling the same old tired stories, and nearly void of any sort of innovation. Its ****ing child play compared to the rest of the world, and you can excuse it as "making a profit" or sticking to a valid formula, because both simply go to prove my point, that American animation doesn't take itself seriously. It sees no reason to invest in itself, and so it has stagnated into a ****ing cess pool of mediocre **** that lacks in any sort of artistic spirit.
 

Winnar

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Find me a single piece of American animation film as complex and important as Persepolis. Find me a single American animation whose visual creativeness comes anywhere close to that of the film Mind Game. The subject matter explored by American animation is mother ****ing pitiful, and the closest thing to inventive animation is coming out soly from the creators of Flapjack and Adventure Time. American animation has remained unchanged for decades now, telling the same old tired stories, and nearly void of any sort of innovation. Its ****ing child play compared to the rest of the world, and you can excuse it as "making a profit" or sticking to a valid formula, because both simply go to prove my point, that American animation doesn't take itself seriously. It sees no reason to invest in itself, and so it has stagnated into a ****ing cess pool of mediocre **** that lacks in any sort of artistic spirit.
Flapjack and Adventure Time are amazing shows, but uhhhh it's hard to tell if you're being sarcastic or serious. Either one would be interesting in its own way, it's just hard to tell because it's just text to me :D

I'm going to go rent and watch Persopolis tomorrow (ON BLU-RAY WHOO THE PERKS OF BEING HOME FOR THE SUMMER). I've never heard of Mind Game, should I look into "acquiring" and watching it?

Since I haven't seen Mind Game I can't compare any american animation to it.

Though SURELY there is more american animation than just dreamworks, pixar, and disney? I know it's easy to be overshadowed by the aforementioned three, but surely SOME indie animation studios exist in the US that are trying to push the bar in the areas you described.

I don't think Pixar WANTS to create a film like Persopolis. I think they're just trying to have fun and capture the universal appeal that is childhood fantasy. I disagree that this puts them 60 years behind foreign animation. Perhaps 60 years in a different direction, but I don't particularly think this is a bad thing. I enjoy seeing both types of films, and I think it's important that these various types of films are being explored and I look forward to watching all of them progress.

But keep recommending me great foreign animated films, please! :D

...also I'm kind of curious, are you even reading my posts or am I typing all this out to no one? :( Or am I falling into some trap where you aren't actually being serious about any of this and in the end you feel really smug for getting me to consider you seriously? I hope not :(

actually lol'd at both of these

but to be fair I typed up a lot more than he did lol

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ps mike if this is too much then please just edit out the picture and not everything else ;-;
 
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