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[FlareHabanero]

I brought this up in another thread, but considering that Chrom and Lucina are nothing special, do you think that another Lord will be looked for the sake of standing out more? Considering that Fire Emblem: Awakening brings most of the Lords back, whatever excuse for being out dated is a moot point this time around.

 

[FalKoopa]

I brought this up in another thread, but considering that Chrom and Lucina are nothing special, do you think that another Lord will be looked for the sake of standing out? Considering that Fire Emblem: Awakening brings most of the Lords back, whatever excuse for being out dated is a moot point this time around.

The Lords which stand out are, over the top of my head, Lyn, Hector, Micaiah, and Ephraim.

Out of these, Lyn seems the most likely, followed by Micaiah, then Ephraim, and lastly Hector.

 

[Diddy Kong]

If you want a breath of fresh air, play Sengoku Rance for the PC. It's very similar to FE, except a lot harder and with a Japanese flair. A lot of the ideas for the classes came from there.
http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Sengoku_Rance


Beware though, it IS a porn game.

Isn't FE quickly becoming a semi-porn game to...?

 

[Frostwraith]

Isn't FE quickly becoming a semi-porn game to...?

Fanservice DLC, Tharja and Nowi, 'nuff said.

 

[Deleted member]

I brought this up in another thread, but considering that Chrom and Lucina are nothing special, do you think that another Lord will be looked for the sake of standing out more? Considering that Fire Emblem: Awakening brings most of the Lords back, whatever excuse for being out dated is a moot point this time around.

As much as I hate to admit it, Roy's support makes him stand out.

But hey, perhaps Sakurai might consider him boring and go for the next possible choice: Lyn.

Our only shot at an exciting character out of FE is Lyn. Everyone else stands too little a chance, even Anna imo, and the top condenders are all generic and boring. Lucina KINDA has a couple merits at being unique, but it ain't much.

Isn't FE quickly becoming a semi-porn game to...?

Well... there's a fine line between ecchi and fanservice, and straight up porn.

That being said all the porn scenes in Rance are skippable. Which ironically is what most people do so they can get back to the action ASAP.

Damn, I wanna play that game again. Problem is, game's addicting, I KNOW that if I give Rance another go, I'd better kiss a month of my free time goodbye as I spend it all trying to get a 100% clear on it again.

 

[•Col•]

As much as I hate to admit it, Roy's support makes him stand out.

But hey, perhaps Sakurai might consider him boring and go for the next possible choice: Lyn.

Our only shot at an exciting character out of FE is Lyn. Everyone else stands too little a chance, even Anna imo, and the top condenders are all generic and boring. Lucina KINDA has a couple merits at being unique, but it ain't much.

The thing with Lyn is, I feel like Takamaru kinda deserves a spot more than her. And he'd fill the katana/samurai role... Then where would Lyn fit in?

 

[ChronoBound]

The thing with Lyn is, I feel like Takamaru kinda deserves a spot more than her. And he'd fill the katana/samurai role... Then where would Lyn fit in?

Then you also Samurai Goroh, who I feel is more likely to show up than Lyn (the only other guy Goroh has to compete with for a possible F-Zero newcomer spot is Black Shadow, and due to the favoritism Sakurai has shown with Goroh, Goroh probably has the edge). However, I am not optimistic on F-Zero getting a newcomer due to the hiatus the series has been on.

I expect Takamaru to be confirmed for Smash 4 a month from now.

 

[FalKoopa]

The thing with Lyn is, I feel like Takamaru kinda deserves a spot more than her. And he'd fill the katana/samurai role... Then where would Lyn fit in?

Well... Takamaru is a Samurai, while Lyn isn't.
Takamaru would probably be a mediumly slow character, while Lyn would be fast and light one.
Also Takamaru uses Shaken (Shuriken), while Lyn uses a bow.

 

[Deleted member]

The thing with Lyn is, I feel like Takamaru kinda deserves a spot more than her. And he'd fill the katana/samurai role... Then where would Lyn fit in?

Takamaru is more of a ranged mix-up character. Lyn is a swift combo focused character. just going by their canon source material.

It's not about filling a role, it's about what the characters can bring to the table in regard to play style.

Lyn and Takamaru differ more than Marth and Ike differ from Chrom and Lucina, or from how Shulk, Roy and Isaac differ from each other.

Lyn and Takamaru can very easily coexist, and tbh, that'd be the best case scenario. Especially considering we have.. what? 5 characters all wielding a Western sword.

Think of it this way.

Lyn is like Himura Kenshin.
Takamaru is more like Mitsurugi with ranged techs like shuriken and fireballs.

 

[ChronoBound]

Well... Takamaru is a Samurai, while Lyn isn't.
Takamaru would probably be a mediumly slow character, while Lyn would be fast and light one.
Also Takamaru uses Shaken (Shuriken), while Lyn uses a bow.

Takamaru could very well end up being quick and light as well.

The thing is that Lyn supporters will say "well she could just use a different fighting style with a katana than Takamaru and Samurai Goroh would" but you could easily say the same about "Roy could use a different style with a western sword than Marth and Ike could due to the Sword of Seal's unique properties".

In reality, the only two FE characters that could really set themselves apart in terms of a style not yet done in Smash Bros. are Ephraim (no lance or lance-like weapon using character has been used yet) or Master Knight Leaf (who is able to use every weapon type and almost every magic type).

 

[FalKoopa]

The thing is that Lyn supporters will say "well she could just use a different fighting style with a katana than Takamaru and Samurai Goroh would" but you could easily say the same about "Roy could use a different style with a western sword than Marth and Ike could due to the Sword of Seal's unique properties".

Of course. That (Roy getting a decloned moveset based on Sword of Seals' unique properties) would a best case scenario, don't you think?

Same for Lyn.

 

[Deleted member]

Takamaru could very well end up being quick and light as well.

The thing is that Lyn supporters will say "well she could just use a different fighting style with a katana than Takamaru and Samurai Goroh would" but you could easily say the same about "Roy could use a different style with a western sword than Marth and Ike could due to the Sword of Seal's unique properties".

In reality, the only two FE characters that could really set themselves apart in terms of a style not yet done in Smash Bros.

Deal is, Roy's already been a clone. Lyn is still untapped potential. Best case scenario Roy would be a sort of Semi-clone.

Saying Lyn and Takamaru would be clones because they use katana is like saying Link and Ike would be clones because they use a broader western sword.

Not to mention we've seen Lyn and Takamaru canonically display very different abilities that neither could replicate.

As for Goroh, like Falcon, he's a blank slate. But if people are gonna tell me that a fat guy's gonna move at supersonic speeds using Iaijutsu, then those people are really grasping at straws. Both have already been ATs and Lyn and Goroh clearly used very different styles. Not to mention the cunning and swift moves don't suit Goroh's clumsy and arrogant attitude.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_martial_arts

Down at swordmanship.

You have 6 different sword styles with the same sword, plus a 7th category that is much broader/

 

[ChronoBound]

Deal is, Roy's already been a clone. Lyn is still untapped potential. Best case scenario Roy would be a sort of Semi-clone.

Saying Lyn and Takamaru would be clones because they use katana is like saying Link and Ike would be clones because they use a broader western sword.
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Ganondorf became a clone of Falcon, and is still a clone of Falcon.

Not to mention you possibly have Kat & Ana possibly being used as a clone/semi-clone for Takamaru, as another possible katana user.

Really, I don't think Sakurai looks at characters with the same mindset as you do. I don't think Sakurai has even heard of those terms you are using.

Secondly, the trajectory for clones in Smash Bros. has been to become progressively more unique with each installment. Of three "clone" newcomers in Brawl, Wolf and Lucas were only five moves away from being completely unique characters (shared only specials and Final Smash), while Toon Link was the only one who was a Melee-style clone.

 

[FalKoopa]

As for Goroh, like Falcon, he's a blank slate. But if people are gonna tell me that a fat guy's gonna move at supersonic speeds using Iaijutsu,

Now I really want Goroh to do this for teh lulz.

Not to mention you possibly have Kat & Ana possibly being used as a clone/semi-clone for Takamaru, as another possible katana user.

What? Are you serious? I can't fathom how an IC-styled character could possibly be a clone of a single character.

That's like saying Ice Climbers would be a clone of Dedede.

 

[ChronoBound]

I posted this a few weeks back, but I think its important for this discussion:

Here are review aggregates for the entire FE series (pre-FE6 games are for the VC versions).

FE3 (VC): 71 points (received a letter grade of C though, I guess VC games have a harsher grading system)
FE4 (VC): 75 points (received a letter grade of C though, I guess VC games have a harsher grading system)
FE5 (VC): 82 points (no letter grade due to not enough reviews)
FE6: 78 points (A)
FE7: 78 points (A)
FE8: 65 points (C)
FE9: 73 points (A)
FE10: 75 points (A)
FE11: 60 points (C)
FE12: 75 points (A)
FE13: 69 points (B)

In Amazon Japan the review aggregates were:

3.5 star review average: FE8, FE11
4.0 star review average: FE5, FE9, FE10, FE12, FE13
4.5 star review average: FE3, FE6, FE7
5.0 star review average: FE4

 

[Deleted member]

Ganondorf became a clone of Falcon, and is still a clone of Falcon.

Not to mention you possibly have Kat & Ana possibly being used as a clone/semi-clone for Takamaru, as another possible katana user.

Really, I don't think Sakurai looks at characters with the same mindset as you do. I don't think Sakurai has even heard of those terms you are using.

Secondly, the trajectory for clones in Smash Bros. has been to become progressively more unique with each installment. Of three "clone" newcomers in Brawl, Wolf and Lucas were only five moves away from being completely unique characters (shared only specials and Final Smash), while Toon Link was the only one who was a Melee-style clone.

However, Ganondorf became a clone because he was a last minute filler addition.

With such a cramped roster as we have now, I don't think we'll be seeing more "last minute filler clones."

Lyn and Takamaru literally have NO reason to be clones at this point.

I agree that Roy has a better chance of getting in because he's got more support. But in regard to uniqueness in terms of playstyle, Lyn takes the cake out of all the top FE contenders.

Also, on Sakurai not knowing terms. I'm sure he's aware that his own culture has created a diverse array of different sword styles. Unless you mean the fighting game terms. In which case, it's not knowing the terms. It's just looking at teh characters canon material and seeing. "Hey, one can turn invisible, shoot fireballs. The other moves really fast. Hey, one keeps their sword drawn. The other doesn't."

As for Kat & Ana. They have Ashley and Mona to take on first. If Warioware gets a rep it'll be those two WAY before Kat & Ana.

Point is, Lyn and Takamaru don't compete with each other. it'd be like saying Roy and Shulk compete with each other. Which, despite being very similar, can very well coexist.

 

[ChronoBound]

Also, on Sakurai not knowing terms. I'm sure he's aware that his own culture has created a diverse array of different sword styles. Unless you mean the fighting game terms. In which case, it's not knowing the terms. It's just looking at teh characters canon material and seeing. "Hey, one can turn invisible, shoot fireballs. The other moves really fast. Hey, one keeps their sword drawn. The other doesn't."
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The thing is that I highly doubt Sakurai thinks like that based on what he has done with the past three Smash Bros. games.

Also, I would say not say that Lyn is "hands down" the most unique newcomer addition for FE. I think that is pretty subjective.

Secondly, we have know idea whether Takamaru is going to end up light and fast (we will probably have an idea on how he will fight a month from now once he is confirmed).

 

[FlareHabanero]

Well, we can at least agree that Lyn would be a better choice for a new Fire Emblem character. Wouldn't mind if it was Marth, Roy, Ike, and Lyn. However for my choice, I would like Ephraim.

 

[ChronoBound]

Well, we can at least agree that Lyn would be a better choice for a new Fire Emblem character. Wouldn't mind if it was Marth, Roy, Ike, and Lyn. However for my choice, I would like Ephraim.

I just want Marth, Roy, and Ike. I don't care who the fourth character would be. I would not even care if the four character was Tharja and half of her moveset involved butt attacks.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Most Likely I see it like this for FE
Marth
Ike
Lyn
Roy/FE13 rep
*possible fifth slot- what ever isn't for the fourth.

 

[ChronoBound]

Most Likely I see it like this for FE
Marth
Ike
Lyn
Roy/FE13 rep
*possible fifth slot- what ever isn't for the fourth.

Its most likely:

Marth
Roy
Ike
Insert your favorite FE character here.

 

[FlareHabanero]

I just want Marth, Roy, and Ike. I don't care who the fourth character would be.

Well, that would work too. But still, doesn't hurt to have another character. Except for Chrom or Lucina, that's not going to fly.

I would not even care if the fourth character was Tharja and half of her moveset involved butt boingy bit attacks.

Corrected.

 

[Frostwraith]

I just want Marth, Roy, and Ike. I don't care who the fourth character would be. I would not even care if the four character was Tharja and half of her moveset involved butt attacks.

Don't we have Peach with butt attacks, though? Tharja as Peach clone, anyone?

Jokes aside, I'd be fine with the three FE veterans. If I were to add a fourth character, it would be Anna, Lyn or Robin (Avatar).

 

[Deleted member]

Also, I would say that Lyn is "hands down" the most unique newcomer addition for FE.

Thanks for agreeing with me buddy!

Anyway, Takamaru and Lyn are different in their canon material. And Takamaru isn't shown using Iaijutsu. That's all.

Most Likely I see it like this for FE
Marth
Ike
Lyn
Roy/FE13 rep
*possible fifth slot- what ever isn't for the fourth.

I wish.

It's most likely:
Marth
Ike
Lucina

imo.

 

[FalKoopa]

Most Likely:
Marth
Ike
Roy
Lyn/Anna/Chrom/Lucina/Robin

What I want:
Marth
Ike
Roy
Lyn/Anna

 

[ChronoBound]

Thanks for agreeing with me buddy!

Anyway, Takamaru and Lyn are different in their canon material. And Takamaru isn't shown using Iaijutsu. That's all.

That was a typo that you quoted before I editted it. Secondly, we have no idea how Takamaru is going to end up, and Sakurai could decide that a character with a laijutsu style (if he even knows what that is) is not needed.

Secondly, Lucina is definitely less likely than Chrom. Smash Bros. fans are asking from Chrom far more than Lucina, and Lucina only has a slight popularity edge among FE13 fans. Lucina is even more handicapped than Chrom is for standing out.

 

[---]

Tharja and half of her moveset involved butt attacks.

Wario clone?

Most Likely I see it like this for FE

IMO:
Marth
Ike
"Marth semi-clone"
"only count this as a 4th character if you have a favorite FE character/are sick of FE debates"

 

[FalKoopa]

The Chrom/Lucina situation kind of mirrors the Pac-Man/Lloyd situation.

A significant portion of Chrom & Pac-Man's popularity is artificial. While Lucina & Lloyd have comparatively more true fans.

 

[Deleted member]

That was a typo that you quoted before I editted it. Secondly, we have no idea how Takamaru is going to end up, and Sakurai could decide that a character with a laijutsu style (if he even knows what that is) is not needed.

Secondly, Lucina is definitely less likely than Chrom. Smash Bros. fans are asking from Chrom far more than Lucina, and Lucina only has a slight popularity edge among FE13 fans. Lucina is even more handicapped than Chrom is for standing out.

C'mon man. Sakurai not knowing what Iaijutsu is, is like a Westerner not knowing what Fencing or Boxing is.

I can understand a Westerner having never heard of Iaijutsu, or Battoujutsu, or even Jiujutsu. But Sakurai is Japanese, this **** is embedded in his culture, and we're talking about a game designer. Concept artists have to be up to date on all kinds of cultural and scientific terms to draw ideas. A game director obviously has to as well. Also, remember that this is the guy who decided to use a fencing style to birth Marth's moveset. If we knows about fencing and its movements, he DEFINITELY knows what Iaijutsu is. It's ALL OVER Sword oriented manga. There's always THAT ONE character who uses the style.

As for him deciding if we "need" such a character. That's irrelevant. The point is both characters fight differently. Lyn's just our shot at a combo-heavy character that plays like she were off of Guilty Gear. Such a speedy sword style can lend itself to that. Takamaru's game is more about using projectiles, thus a more ranged character is more suited for him. And like I said before, they use different sword styles.

Once again, all I'm saying is, Lyn and Takamaru don't compete with each other.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Its most likely:

Marth
Roy
Ike
Insert your favorite FE character here.

So, it's Marth, Roy, Ike, and Leif for you. Good to know.

 

[ChronoBound]

So, it's Marth, Roy, Ike, and Leif for you. Good to know.

I was talking about the rest of this topic. You are right that I would personally want to give the fourth slot to Leaf though (though even if there were five slots for FE he still would be an unlikely choice).

I think if there are four slots, three of them will definitely consist of Marth, Roy, and Ike though.

 

[Deleted member]

So, can we go back to talking about Japanese Fire Emblem?

What sort of ideas do you guys have?

How about mechanics? I've got something cooked up that I'll type up later.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Marth
Ike
"Marth semi-clone"
"only count this as a 4th character if you have a favorite FE character/are sick of FE debates"

By the way, this is the only correct choice. You cannot resist the truth.

 

[ChronoBound]

So, can we go back to talking about Japanese Fire Emblem?

Here are Japanese opinions regarding the FE series:
Here are review aggregates for the entire FE series (pre-FE6 games are for the VC versions).

FE3 (VC): 71 points (received a letter grade of C though, I guess VC games have a harsher grading system)
FE4 (VC): 75 points (received a letter grade of C though, I guess VC games have a harsher grading system)
FE5 (VC): 82 points (no letter grade due to not enough reviews)
FE6: 78 points (A)
FE7: 78 points (A)
FE8: 65 points (C)
FE9: 73 points (A)
FE10: 75 points (A)
FE11: 60 points (C)
FE12: 75 points (A)
FE13: 69 points (B)

In Amazon Japan the review aggregates were:

3.5 star review average: FE8, FE11
4.0 star review average: FE5, FE9, FE10, FE12, FE13
4.5 star review average: FE3, FE6, FE7
5.0 star review average: FE4

 

[Deleted member]

Here are Japanese opinions regarding the FE series:
Here are review aggregates for the entire FE series (pre-FE6 games are for the VC versions).

FE3 (VC): 71 points (received a letter grade of C though, I guess VC games have a harsher grading system)
FE4 (VC): 75 points (received a letter grade of C though, I guess VC games have a harsher grading system)
FE5 (VC): 82 points (no letter grade due to not enough reviews)
FE6: 78 points (A)
FE7: 78 points (A)
FE8: 65 points (C)
FE9: 73 points (A)
FE10: 75 points (A)
FE11: 60 points (C)
FE12: 75 points (A)
FE13: 69 points (B)

In Amazon Japan the review aggregates were:

3.5 star review average: FE8, FE11
4.0 star review average: FE5, FE9, FE10, FE12, FE13
4.5 star review average: FE3, FE6, FE7
5.0 star review average: FE4

No, I mean Japanese Fire Emblem as in:

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Here's a neat idea inspired by the current discussion.

An Asian themed Fire Emblem, lets say Japan because the Shogunate and Warring States period is very similar to European Medieval times.

What are the classes and such?

Here's what I got:

Lord- Like the FE lords, can derive from just about any class, though Swords, Spears, and Bows make the most sense here. Perhaps a Shikigami. But considering most Lords were Samurai, then...
-Shogun- The class change for Lords. Once again, specialize in their original weapon. Can mount and dismount horses.

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Archer- Uses the Japanese Bow, it is MUCH larger then the European Bow, thus shoots farther.
-Yabasame- Horseback Archers, more mobility, shorter range.
-Armored Archer- Better range and more power than the previous class. The Sniper per say.

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Tactician- Carry a War Fan and a Sword, not combat focused can boost or drop the stats of allies and foes by rallying support.
-Commander- The class change here, allow autonomous command of units.

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Onmyouji- Essentially the mage, there is no Magic triangle here as the Magic has no element. Very strong against Youkai. Can also summon shikigami familiars to change attack traits.
-Dai Onmyouji - The sage, gains stat boosts. Can summon a larger variety of Shikigami and even have them fight for him.

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Ninja- The Assasin class, high speed and ATK. Uses a wide array of Shuriken and Kunai. As well as smoke bombs.
-Grandmaster- High Ninja class, gains access to some swords.

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Foot Soldier- Slower but with high DEF, use spears.
-Yari General- Not like the FE general, the slow and bulky tanks didn't exist in Japanese warfare. This is more like the Spearsoldier class in FE9.
-Mounted General- Less DEF, more mobility. Essentially the Paladin of this game.

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Bushido- Use a Katana, the Myrmidon of this game and the most common class.
-Samurai- Armored Bushido, gain higher DEF and access to bows. Can also mount or dismount Horses.
-Ronin- Rougue sword users. Self trained. The Swordmasters essentialy. Mad SPD and ATK.

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Monk- Weaponless, they use chants and prayers to heal friendlies. Also are able to fight using their fists.
-Souhei- Armored Monk. The most versatile class. Can gain access to almost any weapon upon change and then specialize in it. Also retain their ability to heal.

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Miko- Beautiful women, specialized healers.
-Fujo- Class change for Miko, gain access to some magical attacks like the Onmyouji.

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Pirate- Access to a wide array of swords, have great mobility in water. High ATK.
-Mercinary- Very mobile across all terrain. Access to a wide variety of swords and are able to exclusively use Broadswords.

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Special Classes:

Pyrotechnic- Fire specialists. The heavy artillery, specializes in Seige weaponry with Fire works and bombs.

Judoka- Jiujutsu master. Defeats foes at close range by grappling.

Sumo- What it sounds like, a fat guy that slaps, pushes and throws.

Tengu- The flying units. Assasins with wings that wear masks. Like to live in Mountains.

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Blacksmiths- Forge weapons for you. You must gather the resources for them though. Muramasa is among the blacksmith you can recruit. He'll forge legendary weapons for you.

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Princess- Special class, composed of sexy women.

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Bandits- **** and pillage.



Youkai: Youkai are like Manaketes and beastfolk of FE. Derived from legends and folklore.

Kitsune- Fox women, that can transform into foxes, very deceptive, but prone to falling madly in love. Exellent Mages. Tamamo no Mae, the Kyuubi is one of them.

Tanooki- Racoon dogs that like to steal ****. Very cunning little guys.

Hanniwa- Pottery, because why not.

Oni- Huge buff demons. Come in a large array of different forms and monsters.

Nekomata- Forked tail cat. Bring good luck.

Jurougumo- Spider monsters

Hebi- Snake mosters

Tengu- the ACTUAL goblins, not the bandits with masks.

Mononoke- Ghosts and spirits.

Giant Squid- It's a giant Squid.

Deities:
Orochi- Giant multiheaded snake.
Kuroakami- Water Dragon
Amaterasu- Sun Goddess
Susanoo- God of the Storms and Seas
Izanagi and Izanami- Sibling gods
Kagatsuchi- Fire God
Tsukiyomi- Moon Goddess.

You fight ALL of them.

Weapons:
Katana- You can find the and buy run of the mill ones, but having your blacksmith forge them is a better idea.
Yari- Spears, come in many variations, including throwables. You can also find these:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Great_Spears_of_Japan
Yumi- Larger than Europeans bows, they have better range and more power. Come in a number of variations. Including scatter shots and Fire Arrows.
Kunai- Throwable Knives
Shuriken- Come in a wide array of forms sizes, shapes and uses. Larger ones do more damage.
Prayer Beads- Enhance powers of Monks
Hanabi- Fire works and other pyrothecnics
War Fans- Large fans that enhance the powers of Tacticians.
Shikigami Paper- Allow Onmyouji to summon certain shikigami
Pentagrams- Allow Onmyouji, Monks and Miko to use different spells.
Other: Whatever I missed. This includes bladed fans, Broadswords and such.

Oh yeah, you can also get small boats for naval combat.

I dunno, anyone else wanna add to this? This would make an awesome game tbh. I'd make it a mix of Rance's Risk-like strategy, with FE's tactical gameplay. Something like FE4 as well (which I've yet to play).

Which reminds me...

Someone said that it could work in FE if they had a war with a Japanese country.

Idk, it kinda rubs me the wrong way. Japan's Warring States period was nothing but Civil War.

European fantasy nations should fight Persian nations. That'd be more fun and historically accurate. Then we could have Elephants.

 

[ChronoBound]

Habanero mentioned this in another topic, but I think Chrom/Lucina would be a bad choice for a long-term for the series. Chrom/Lucina not getting chosen might also light a fire under IS's butt to be more creative with lords in the future.

I do think its possible that its going to end up as us only getting Marth and Chrom, however, if Sakurai has been paying attention to the backlash that he got from Mewtwo and Roy being axed, he will certainly have second thoughts about cutting Ike.

I think Anna is basically the dark horse as far as getting in, and basically has potential to be the ZSS/Pokemon Trainer this time (basically a characrer from a veteran franchise that was not requested much, nor expected).

I really hope we get at least one FE veteran confirmed when Smash 4 is unveiled, but I am not feeling optimistic.

 

[FlareHabanero]

If one Fire Emblem veteran is going to be confirmed, it's going to be Marth. He's pretty much the face of the franchise in Super Smash Bros., so it's the most logical conclusion. At least, it would make more sense then picking Roy or Ike over him.

Also yes, I was the one that mentioned the situation regarding to Chrom/Lucina. No matter which way it goes, it's not a win-win situation.

 

[loganhogan]

I would like the roster to be like this:

Marth
Ike
Roy
Anna or Lucina

If it's Anna instead of Lucina it would be cool because two redheads and two blueheads it's like referencing the player and enemy phase in Fire Emblem's gameplay .

 

[bobadz]

Habanero mentioned this in another topic, but I think Chrom/Lucina would be a bad choice for a long-term for the series. Chrom/Lucina not getting chosen might also light a fire under IS's butt to be more creative with lords in the future.

I do think its possible that its going to end up as us only getting Marth and Chrom, however, if Sakurai has been paying attention to the backlash that he got from Mewtwo and Roy being axed, he will certainly have second thoughts about cutting Ike.

I think Anna is basically the dark horse as far as getting in, and basically has potential to be the ZSS/Pokemon Trainer this time (basically a characrer from a veteran franchise that was not requested much, nor expected).

I really hope we get at least one FE veteran confirmed when Smash 4 is unveiled, but I am not feeling optimistic.

Well,castle siege was confirmed during E3 2006.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Wouldn't it be awesome, but extremely unlikely if we get 5 characters for all the franchises, except for ones like Pikmin and maybe others that might seem redundant to have five.