You get no Sympathy in a "Fire Emblem Discussion"

[Diddy Kong]

He's not all that uninteressting, Shadow Dragon was just a bad remake. STILL wish I could play FE12, cause it's looking awesome...

 

[Frostwraith]

I wish Marth would go. He's a mute cross dresser who is probably the least interesting Lord in FE history.

Such a compelling argument. >_>

 

[Diddy Kong]

Anyone wanna discuss Radiant Dawn localization changes in the script? Heard there where a lot of changes in the English version.

 

[Shotguner159]

http://www.serenesforest.net/fe10/script/extend.html

Tells you what the changes are.

 

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He's not all that uninteressting, Shadow Dragon was just a bad remake. STILL wish I could play FE12, cause it's looking awesome...

If you've played FE1 you'll see that it being a remake is not at fault. Do gotta give FE11 credit for introducing the ability to reclass and online play (why FE13 didn't have it I'll never know).

FE12 is awesome, though I would say it's way easier than the original, it does do a much better job as a remake than FE11. I do think it lacks some of the charm of the original but I do gotta give credit for introducing My Unit especially since FE13's My Unit fails in comparison to FE12's My Unit both useability wise & story/character wise.

 

[FlareHabanero]

I wish Marth would go. He's a mute cross dresser who is probably the least interesting Lord in FE history.

I wish Link would go. He's a mute cross dresser who is probably the least interesting character in The Legend of Zelda history.

 

[Diddy Kong]

No that'd be... younkowwho

 

[Deleted member]

Impa?
Yeah, I agree that she's the least interesting character in Zelda history.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Impa would make an awesome Fire Emblem character.

 

[FalKoopa]

Afaik, there is no Ninja class in any FE game. (I haven't played any recent FE games, so correct me if I'm wrong.)

NOTE: Anyone except Diddy is allowed to correct me.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Afaik, there is no Ninja class in any FE game. (I haven't played any recent FE games, so correct me if I'm wrong.)

There is no class called "ninja." However, there is an Assassin class, as well as a few other ninja-eqsue classes(like the Whisper).

 

[Deleted member]

Afaik, there is no Ninja class in any FE game. (I haven't played any recent FE games, so correct me if I'm wrong.)

NOTE: Anyone except Diddy is allowed to correct me.

Assassin class is the closest thing that I know of.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Impa would make an awesome Fire Emblem character.

Zelda characters as FE units
Link: Lord or Hero
Zelda: Sage
Sheik: Whisper or Assassin
Ganondorf: Dark knight or Conquerer
Impa: Assassin
Tingle: Dancer
Vaati: Sage
Zant: Sorcerer
Anyone want to do more.

 

[Pazzo.]

Zelda characters as FE units
Link:Lord or Hero
Zelda:Mage
Sheik: Whisper or Assassin
Ganondorf:Dark Mage or any suggestions
Impa:Assassin
Anyone want to do more.

OoT Gannondorf: Conquer from Awakening.

Edit: Well... more like Dark Knight.

 

[FalKoopa]

Tingle would be a dancer.

Vaati would be a mage/sage.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

OoT Gannondorf: Conquer from Awakening.

Edit: Well... more like Dark Knight.

Tingle would be a dancer.

Vaati would be a mage/sage.

Both were added to my post.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Ganondorf could be anything, damn. Dark Druid, Summoner, King (like Zephiel), Baron, everything.
Link should be a Hero. Who's able to mount on Epona, and use Bows, not axes. Special class should be Hero of Time or something in the like.

Sheik should be a Bard btw. "

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No really it'd work

 

[FalKoopa]

I think Link should a nomadic trooper from the GBA games.

 

[Shotguner159]

Link should be a Hero. Who's able to mount on Epona, and use Bows, not axes. Special class should be Hero of Time or something in the like.

Bow Knight or Assassin then

 

[Frostwraith]

Link could be a horseback class with Bows and Swords, like Rangers on GBA game, Bow Knights from Awakening, or Paladins from Path of Radiance (assuming he promotes from Sword Knight and chooses Bow as the secondary weapon).

Kid Icarus characters would fit nicely into FE too:
(Let's assume we don't have special overpowered classes and stick to the normal ones for these)
Pit: Archer -> Sniper
Dark Pit: Archer -> Sniper
Magnus: Mercenary -> Hero
Palutena: Priest -> Bishop
Medusa: Any Dark magic class, such as Shaman -> Druid / Summoner, Dark Mage -> Sorcerer...
Hades: Same as Medusa.
Viridi: Mage -> Sage (anima magic use natural elements, so it makes sense for the Goddess of Nature)

 

[Gingerbread Man]

Hero class. With a hammer as his only axe.

 

[Fastblade5035]

I always pictured Link having his own class, but I like the idea of him being a hero or Bow Knight.

But what about Toon and Young Link?

 

[Deleted member]

He's not all that uninteressting, Shadow Dragon was just a bad remake. STILL wish I could play FE12, cause it's looking awesome...

You DO know there is a fan translation for the DS rom right?

If devs aren't gonna localize games, why should you spend ALL the extra dosh to import a game you won't even be able to understand?

Just download the Rom, patch it, and play it on an emulator/flashcard. I'm playing through 12 atm, it's pretty good. Much better than Shadow Dragon imo.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Wait, Zelda characters as Fire Emblem Classes?

Link: Either his own lord class or a Master Knight, or Bow Knight.
Zelda: Mage or Sage
Impa: Theif/Assassin
Ganondorf: Unique class, or maybe Demon Fighter
Tingle: Bard/Dancer
Vaati: Mage/Sage-based unique class
Ghirahim: Myrmidion/Swordmaster

 

[Diddy Kong]

You DO know there is a fan translation for the DS rom right?

If devs aren't gonna localize games, why should you spend ALL the extra dosh to import a game you won't even be able to understand?

Just download the Rom, patch it, and play it on an emulator/flashcard. I'm playing through 12 atm, it's pretty good. Much better than Shadow Dragon imo.

I can never get a DS emulator to work... It's a task that'll forever remain impossible for me.

Also, I might do a FE6 playthrough, and share it in the Roy thread. Anyone wanna see that?

Zelda should totally be a Est-archetype character. Low level, but amazing growths.

 

[Pazzo.]

Both were added to my post.

Skull Kid (Majora): Dark Sage/Necromancer

This is fun!

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Link on Epona for cavalier.

Dark Nut for General.

 

[Gingerbread Man]

Fi: Dancer
Midna: Druid
Onox: General

Side note: Has anyone noticed that Onox's final form looks just like fomortiis?

I guess I should mark him down for the demon king class too.

 

[Frostwraith]

Two more:

Zant: Druid, Summoner or any other dark magic class
Wizzrobe: Mage -> Sage or maybe Druid

 

[Pazzo.]

ReDead: Entombed from awakening.

Garo Ninja: Thief > Assassin.

 

[FalKoopa]

How could I forget this one:
Moblin: Soldier and some are archers
Keaton:Thief

 

[Pazzo.]

How could I forget this one:
Moblin: Soldier and some are archers
Keaton:Thief

I think you just outdid me.... Oh wait!

Ghirahim: Lord or Trickster from Awakening

 

[Diddy Kong]

Ok so listing them all:

Link: Lord / his own class, possibly inspired on Hero's (especially the GBA ones would fit) and also has Bows.
Ganondorf: Dark Druid who can also use Lances and Swords. Or Baron from FE4: Magic, Lances and Swords
Zelda: Sage or own class, can also use Bows
Impa: Assassin, can also use Magic
Sheik: Bard / Assassin
Ghirahim: Trickster or Swordmaster
Bulbin King: Berserker
Stallfoss: Hero
Dark Nut: General
Bokoblin: Fighter and Mercenary
Tingle: Male Dancer
Tetra: Rogue
Vaati: Sorcecor

 

[FalKoopa]

Tetra is pirate, but doesn't fit the pirate class. lol

 

[Deleted member]

Here's a neat idea inspired by the current discussion.

An Asian themed Fire Emblem, lets say Japan because the Shogunate and Warring States period is very similar to European Medieval times.

What are the classes and such?

Here's what I got:

Lord- Like the FE lords, can derive from just about any class, though Swords, Spears, and Bows make the most sense here. Perhaps a Shikigami. But considering most Lords were Samurai, then...
-Shogun- The class change for Lords. Once again, specialize in their original weapon. Can mount and dismount horses.

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Archer- Uses the Japanese Bow, it is MUCH larger then the European Bow, thus shoots farther.
-Yabasame- Horseback Archers, more mobility, shorter range.
-Armored Archer- Better range and more power than the previous class. The Sniper per say.

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Tactician- Carry a War Fan and a Sword, not combat focused can boost or drop the stats of allies and foes by rallying support.
-Commander- The class change here, allow autonomous command of units.

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Onmyouji- Essentially the mage, there is no Magic triangle here as the Magic has no element. Very strong against Youkai. Can also summon shikigami familiars to change attack traits.
-Dai Onmyouji - The sage, gains stat boosts. Can summon a larger variety of Shikigami and even have them fight for him.

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Ninja- The Assasin class, high speed and ATK. Uses a wide array of Shuriken and Kunai. As well as smoke bombs.
-Grandmaster- High Ninja class, gains access to some swords.

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Foot Soldier- Slower but with high DEF, use spears.
-Yari General- Not like the FE general, the slow and bulky tanks didn't exist in Japanese warfare. This is more like the Spearsoldier class in FE9.
-Mounted General- Less DEF, more mobility. Essentially the Paladin of this game.

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Bushido- Use a Katana, the Myrmidon of this game and the most common class.
-Samurai- Armored Bushido, gain higher DEF and access to bows. Can also mount or dismount Horses.
-Ronin- Rougue sword users. Self trained. The Swordmasters essentialy. Mad SPD and ATK.

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Monk- Weaponless, they use chants and prayers to heal friendlies. Also are able to fight using their fists.
-Souhei- Armored Monk. The most versatile class. Can gain access to almost any weapon upon change and then specialize in it. Also retain their ability to heal.

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Miko- Beautiful women, specialized healers.
-Fujo- Class change for Miko, gain access to some magical attacks like the Onmyouji.

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Pirate- Access to a wide array of swords, have great mobility in water. High ATK.
-Mercinary- Very mobile across all terrain. Access to a wide variety of swords and are able to exclusively use Broadswords.

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Special Classes:

Pyrotechnic- Fire specialists. The heavy artillery, specializes in Seige weaponry with Fire works and bombs.

Judoka- Jiujutsu master. Defeats foes at close range by grappling.

Sumo- What it sounds like, a fat guy that slaps, pushes and throws.

Tengu- The flying units. Assasins with wings that wear masks. Like to live in Mountains.

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Blacksmiths- Forge weapons for you. You must gather the resources for them though. Muramasa is among the blacksmith you can recruit. He'll forge legendary weapons for you.

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Princess- Special class, composed of sexy women.

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Bandits- **** and pillage.



Youkai: Youkai are like Manaketes and beastfolk of FE. Derived from legends and folklore.

Kitsune- Fox women, that can transform into foxes, very deceptive, but prone to falling madly in love. Exellent Mages. Tamamo no Mae, the Kyuubi is one of them.

Tanooki- Racoon dogs that like to steal ****. Very cunning little guys.

Hanniwa- Pottery, because why not.

Oni- Huge buff demons. Come in a large array of different forms and monsters.

Nekomata- Forked tail cat. Bring good luck.

Jurougumo- Spider monsters

Hebi- Snake mosters

Tengu- the ACTUAL goblins, not the bandits with masks.

Mononoke- Ghosts and spirits.

Giant Squid- It's a giant Squid.

Deities:
Orochi- Giant multiheaded snake.
Kuroakami- Water Dragon
Amaterasu- Sun Goddess
Susanoo- God of the Storms and Seas
Izanagi and Izanami- Sibling gods
Kagatsuchi- Fire God
Tsukiyomi- Moon Goddess.

You fight ALL of them.

Weapons:
Katana- You can find the and buy run of the mill ones, but having your blacksmith forge them is a better idea.
Yari- Spears, come in many variations, including throwables. You can also find these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Great_Spears_of_Japan
Yumi- Larger than Europeans bows, they have better range and more power. Come in a number of variations. Including scatter shots and Fire Arrows.
Kunai- Throwable Knives
Shuriken- Come in a wide array of forms sizes, shapes and uses. Larger ones do more damage.
Prayer Beads- Enhance powers of Monks
Hanabi- Fire works and other pyrothecnics
War Fans- Large fans that enhance the powers of Tacticians.
Shikigami Paper- Allow Onmyouji to summon certain shikigami
Pentagrams- Allow Onmyouji, Monks and Miko to use different spells.
Other: Whatever I missed. This includes bladed fans, Broadswords and such.

Oh yeah, you can also get small boats for naval combat.

I dunno, anyone else wanna add to this? This would make an awesome game tbh. I'd make it a mix of Rance's Risk-like strategy, with FE's tactical gameplay. Something like FE4 as well (which I've yet to play).

 

[Frostwraith]

Japanese-themed FE ideas

Good ideas there, Manly. Would play a game like that.

Certainly would be a breath of fresh air to the franchise. Keeping the usual FE tactical gameplay, but in a new, feudal Japan-inspired world with new characters and new classes sounds appealing to me.

 

[Deleted member]

Good ideas there, Manly. Would play a game like that.

Certainly would be a breath of fresh air to the franchise. Keeping the usual FE tactical gameplay, but in a new, feudal Japan-inspired world with new characters and new classes sounds appealing to me.

If you want a breath of fresh air, play Sengoku Rance for the PC. It's very similar to FE, except a lot harder and with a Japanese flair. A lot of the ideas for the classes came from there.
http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Sengoku_Rance


Beware though, it IS a porn game.

 

[FalKoopa]

Those ideas can be integrated into FE, like a war with a Japan themed country.

I sometimes wish there were more types of mounted units. Like Camels and Elephants.

 

[Frostwraith]

Those ideas can be integrated into FE, like a war with a Japan themed country.

I sometimes wish there were more types of mounted units. Like Camels and Elephants.

Mounted Elephants... that reminds me of another strategy game I used to play, where two of the units were mounted elephants. You had the War Elephant for melee (the elephant itself would attack other soldiers, it was hilarious) or the Elephant Archer, which is self explanatory.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Those ideas can be integrated into FE, like a war with a Japan themed country.


I sometimes wish there were more types of mounted units. Like Camels and Elephants.

Personally I would go nuts for a warg/wolf rider class.