DragonSniperNintendo
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I see where you are coming from but I have to say two things:Micaiah/Sothe might make more sense as a double team, but it's pretty moot, as we won't be seeing a FE double team.
Yeah, other than bringing his series to a market exponentially larger, re-igniting interest in Fire Emblem in his native region, and remaining one of the most popular lords of his series, Roy sure hasn't done anything for his series since his game, unlike Micaiah, who has done so much.
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Yeah, Mewtwo has a better chance than Roy does, but that 1) doesn't mean Roy has a bad chance, and 2) doesn't mean Micaiah has a better chance than Roy.
It's pretty hilarious that you want Micaiah to represent a game that you specifically mention Ike will also represent. Don't shoot yourself in the foot.
I agree that Micaiah would be more diverse than four swordsmen, but just because they all wield a sword doesn't mean they would all be clones or semi-clones of each other.
I agree, but diversity potential doesn't increase chances. If anything, it lowers chances, as characters that play similarly are easier to implement. And lets face it, if hypothetically Micaiah was under consideration (which she isn't), she would hardly be top priority.
Great, I didn't know that your singular wants directly affected the roster and outweighed the multitude of people who would rather see Roy over Lucina. Plus, if Sakurai wanted to represent Fire Emblem as it was THEN instead of ten years ago, he wouldn't have picked Marth to be the first FE character in Smash. Relevancy isn't his top priority.
I agree, I'd rather see her without Sothe as well.
This isn't Sakurai's priority. If he wanted to represent the last few games, Roy wouldn't have been planned for Brawl over Lyn, Ephraim, etc. When he wants a relevant character, he clearly (CLEARLY) goes for the most recent/upcoming protagonist, not a character four games back. You're looking for a pattern which has never existed. Sakurai doesn't go back more than one game (with the obvious and self-explanatory exception of Marth).
In a series that gets a new game every couple of years, and has had three games since, Radiant Dawn is no longer relevant. I'd really suggest you stop grasping at straws, if you sincerely expect Micaiah to be included, I guarantee you will be disappointed.
And console means nothing. In fact, lately console FE games have been doing much worse than portables, if anything Sakurai would want the majority of the content to come from a game that has found a larger audience and more overall popularity.
If the goal was to represent the four games since Brawl's development (which isn't Sakurai's goal -- he'd probably care about the most recent game and the series in general), there is absolutely no point in having both Ike (who would represent RD and PoR no matter what his appearance was - though you've clearly specified he'd be in his RD incarnation, which only emphasizes the point. Marth represented both his games in Melee and Brawl even though he didn't get his very manly pants-less appearance from the first game) and Micaiah. As Ike would obviously get in before Micaiah, you really need to throw out the whole "representation" point you have, as it's only hurting your argument.
Keep in mind FE characters are added with the Japanese market in mind first and foremost. In Japan, Roy's game outsold Micaiah's roughly two-to-one, so even disregarding his Smash appearance, more people would be familiar with Roy, even taking into account the ones who are no longer gamers. Radiant Dawn didn't do so hot outside Japan either, it's possible that the two games have roughly the same amount of sales in general, which is quite impressive considering Roy's was only released in one comparatively small region. Either way, Micaiah is no longer the token "relevant" FE rep, so her inclusion would be solely based on her popularity now as well (aka her crying "fans"), in which she simply pales in comparison to Roy.
Also, popularity (the fans) does have an effect on who makes it into the roster. I know you seem to base your roster choices solely on relevancy, which is... frankly... incorrect.
At the very least, Roy and Marth would be as different as the semi-clones in Brawl, who were different enough to have different playstyles, different tactics, different match-ups, different tier positions, and just different properties in general. They would be a lot more different than they were in Melee, that much is for sure. The days of direct clones are gone (even in Melee they had a few noticeable differences).
Being aesthetically similar to another character is a terrible reason to be completely dismissed and relegated to definite "clone" status. Also, if you played FE6, you would know how different Marth and Roy's swords actually are and can be.
In addition to being planned twice for Smash, which does in fact mean something. Sakurai revisits old ideas constantly. Aside from that, all Micaiah has is popularity as well, except proportionately minimal when compared to Roy's. Believe it or not, popularity does play a factor in roster decisions. Sure, it's not the only factor, and it's not the single deciding factor, but it is a factor. I've said it before, and it seems I'm saying it again, but (assuming Ike also returns) if Sakurai wants the popular pick, he'll go with Roy, if he wants the relevant pick, he'll go with Chrom. Unlikely, but if there are two additions, it will be both Roy and Chrom.
You claim Micaiah to be relevant. In reality, she is not. In her series, she plays no more role than any other typical-one-game-lord. In fact, her role as titular character is pretty much shifted to Ike during the game. Roy, (not counting his cameo in FE7), has also only had a single (non-DLC, canon) appearance, however, in addition to his popularity (which is the highest of any non-existing playable FE character) he has also had a large overall impact on his series, even if not directly through his series. You could perhaps call Micaiah recent, at this point that's kinda subjective as well, though she is more recent than Roy. However, she isn't as recent as Chrom, so... once again, her recentness really means very little.
Look at it this way, in Brawl (other than Marth), who was planned for FE? First Ike, the most recent FE character. This time around, his equivalent is Chrom (not that Chrom will necessarily be included over Ike). Though one game off, in a way the Brawl-time equivalent to Micaiah could be Lyn. She had decent popularity (though Lyn's was higher than Micaiah's ever was -- for Smash at least), and she was more recent than Roy. But who ended up being planned for inclusion? Roy. Sakurai didn't look to the two games more recent than FE6, he only looked at the most recent game, even though Lyn was popular, with her katana she could've been unique, and she was female (which means nothing, but is a parallel to Micaiah). Micaiah would be lucky to be an AT this time around.
The whole Micaiah thing is getting pretty old now, DragonSniperNintendo.
1. Everyone seems to think Roy is a guarantee, he is not.
2. A lot of people are counting Micaiah out, while she still has as much of a chance as Lucina, Sheeda, and Lyn. Even more so. No as recent as Chrom. Not as "popular" as Roy. But she does have a little of both.
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