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Eh. I'd like to see her as a Marth alt, but (and I feel like this is flamebait, but I'm sure someone will be amused by it) I have the feeling the less intelligent in the audience won't be able to see the difference.
Could also be possible, and maybe I'd prefer that but like Roy she would at best be a half clone of Marth.
I think the two most likely scenarios are:
If its four characters it will definitely be Marth, Roy, Ike, and Chrom.
His regular and Smash moves could have a fiery effect for example, possibily buffing it's strenght a few %s. If Roy keeps his sweetspot in the center of the blade, he'll need every bit of extra strenght he can get.
But why add Roy? Just because people want him? Because he was supposed to stay? To just toss him back in there? To make all the "fans super happy"?
1. Which three?
I could actually see this. Think of it this way: Sakurai says he wanted to make a trainer based moveset for Melee, we got one in Brawl. What if he wants to revisit the Diddy/Dixie tag team? A. We know they wouldn't simply be another set of ICs because of their unique abilities, and B. Diddy is his own character, so it wouldn't exactly be all that nice to take him away and give him an entirely new playstyle. And, since dual battles are one the big features of Awakening, it's perfectly possible. It also kills two birds with one stone. Or, character slot as it were.
Yep.
That sounds nifty. Tell me more, sir.
But those are not real reasons. He has done nothing for the series since his game.
But even so, all four would still have a sword (regardless of what else they have).I'd prefer Sothe paired with Micaiah honestly for a duo character. Makes much more sence.
Roy isn't all that boring though. He'd make for a nice Luigified Marth half clone, and he'd be easier to implement than Micaiah. If done right, he can have a rather unique style with his Sword of Seals. Micaiah is just very lacking in the physical department. And the 'swords only is boring' argument can be helped if Chrom uses lances in some moves, and Ike would use axes.
I see him more as an alt character for Marth or as DLC.Yeah, Sothe and Micaiah would be far more unique. But as said before, we'd be lucky to already have 4 characters in the first place. If we'd get a PoR / RD remake later, sure it'd be all for it, but right now, we'd even be lucky to keep Ike. If we could have another, I think it'd be Roy, after Ike. Given his massive popularity, and easy implementation, I'd say he's by far the most likely FE 4th character.
as his blade Tryfing is pretty much indentical to Marth's Falchion plus they look very a like. Different clothes, longer hair and good to go.
If we got the game, sure, but we didn't. Which still leads me to know that most people asking for him would answer the exact same thing and that they just want him to bring him back.Not an alternative to Marth, that wouldn't make much sence given how they where in Melee. Point of both the characters was to get their sweetspot right. And Roy would have fiery effects on his sword, plus the way Marth swings how blade in Brawl really makes it impossible for Roy to be a full clone.
Good Marth alternatives would be:
Cecil / Seliph
Leaf / Leif: Marth's white costume is based on him. And that one rumour which told he'd be the first choice for a Marth clone in Melee.
Lucina: Impersonates Marth in FE13, and they have the same battle animations. Also use the Falchion.
Roy's style with the Sword of Seals stands out from them. If you would've played FE6, you'd understand.
Sakurai seems to think so. These were his guidelines for character inclusion:
Point 4 is up to the development team, Rule 3 is covered as he was already in Melee, Rule 1 is covered as people really want him, as noted by popularity (which isn't something Micaiah has), and Rule 2 can also be true from the development standpoint by just going off of the Fire Sword thing.
Well, the two are near the same in skill set, they both use the same sword, and both are usually promoted together, even on the box art for the game.
This is true and should happenRoy's blade is not really light though. His Melee moveset might suggest that, but it's a two handed sword, like Ike's. Except Roy actually uses two hands to wield it. In truth, he should be a little slower than Marth, yet slightly faster than Chrom.
Sothe and Micaiah duo > Chrom and Lucina duo.
Hm...I'll take it! I'll take twelve!
Thing is, though, Chrom is more likely than Micaiah. If the choice is Micaiah/Sothe or Chrom/Lucina, then it's going to be Chrom/Lucina.
Yeah, other than bringing his series to a market exponentially larger, re-igniting interest in Fire Emblem in his native region, and remaining one of the most popular lords of his series, Roy sure hasn't done anything for his series since his game, unlike Micaiah, who has done so much.
Yeah, Mewtwo has a better chance than Roy does, but that 1) doesn't mean Roy has a bad chance, and 2) doesn't mean Micaiah has a better chance than Roy.
It's pretty hilarious that you want Micaiah to represent a game that you specifically mention Ike will also represent. Don't shoot yourself in the foot.
I agree that Micaiah would be more diverse than four swordsmen, but just because they all wield a sword doesn't mean they would all be clones or semi-clones of each other.
I agree, but diversity potential doesn't increase chances. If anything, it lowers chances, as characters that play similarly are easier to implement. And lets face it, if hypothetically Micaiah was under consideration (which she isn't), she would hardly be top priority.
Great, I didn't know that your singular wants directly affected the roster and outweighed the multitude of people who would rather see Roy over Lucina. Plus, if Sakurai wanted to represent Fire Emblem as it was THEN instead of ten years ago, he wouldn't have picked Marth to be the first FE character in Smash. Relevancy isn't his top priority.
I agree, I'd rather see her without Sothe as well.
This isn't Sakurai's priority. If he wanted to represent the last few games, Roy wouldn't have been planned for Brawl over Lyn, Ephraim, etc. When he wants a relevant character, he clearly (CLEARLY) goes for the most recent/upcoming protagonist, not a character four games back. You're looking for a pattern which has never existed. Sakurai doesn't go back more than one game (with the obvious and self-explanatory exception of Marth).
In a series that gets a new game every couple of years, and has had three games since, Radiant Dawn is no longer relevant. I'd really suggest you stop grasping at straws, if you sincerely expect Micaiah to be included, I guarantee you will be disappointed.
If the goal was to represent the four games since Brawl's development (which isn't Sakurai's goal -- he'd probably care about the most recent game and the series in general), there is absolutely no point in having both Ike (who would represent RD and PoR no matter what his appearance was - though you've clearly specified he'd be in his RD incarnation, which only emphasizes the point. Marth represented both his games in Melee and Brawl even though he didn't get his very manly pants-less appearance from the first game
) and Micaiah. As Ike would obviously get in before Micaiah, you really need to throw out the whole "representation" point you have, as it's only hurting your argument.Keep in mind FE characters are added with the Japanese market in mind first and foremost. In Japan, Roy's game outsold Micaiah's roughly two-to-one, so even disregarding his Smash appearance, more people would be familiar with Roy, even taking into account the ones who are no longer gamers. Radiant Dawn didn't do so hot outside Japan either, it's possible that the two games have roughly the same amount of sales in general, which is quite impressive considering Roy's was only released in one comparatively small region. Either way, Micaiah is no longer the token "relevant" FE rep, so her inclusion would be solely based on her popularity now as well (aka her crying "fans"), in which she simply pales in comparison to Roy.
At the very least, Roy and Marth would be as different as the semi-clones in Brawl, who were different enough to have different playstyles, different tactics, different match-ups, different tier positions, and just different properties in general. They would be a lot more different than they were in Melee, that much is for sure. The days of direct clones are gone (even in Melee they had a few noticeable differences).
In addition to being planned twice for Smash, which does in fact mean something. Sakurai revisits old ideas constantly. Aside from that, all Micaiah has is popularity as well, except proportionately minimal when compared to Roy's. Believe it or not, popularity does play a factor in roster decisions. Sure, it's not the only factor, and it's not the single deciding factor, but it is a factor. I've said it before, and it seems I'm saying it again, but (assuming Ike also returns) if Sakurai wants the popular pick, he'll go with Roy, if he wants the relevant pick, he'll go with Chrom. Unlikely, but if there are two additions, it will be both Roy and Chrom.
