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wtf Australian government

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Bit late there, but yea... That's Australia for you =D (Don't ever come here)

Don't worry guys, Mid July is make or break time for the R+18 discussion and by the looks it's in the favour for lifting the ban atm =)
 
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every other banned game has the same maximum penalty -- nothing new -- as in, it won't stop us playing it.
 
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funny that -- our laws promote piracy. mod chips are legal and we're the country in the world to have this legislated.

even more ironic is that the legality of mod-chipping consoles has actually increased the sales of offcial videogames in australia.
 
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the head of the australian government is based right here in BANBERRA
where games are banned
 
Aussierob123

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MK9 actually looks like a good game, haven't had a good MK for years.

But yea I agree with nick lol, it's quite obvious why aus banned it. Still looks good though.
 
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I saw the title of this thread and thought: "Oh hey maybe a good political debate about the carbon tax."


Then I remembered this was SmashBoards.
Then I saw Tak had commented on it.
Then I saw it was about MK9. -_-
 
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Carbon Tax is a necessary inevitability. It will be the start of a new era, and it's only a matter of time now. :bee:
 
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Yes, because the government making things even worse is the correct way to go about things. When poor people can't afford things, you take even more things away from them. Good work.
 
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lol @ the some of the people here who think they know what they're talking about in politics. it's people like them which makes democracy suck.

"All the carbon tax will do is make it harder for poor people to buy anything."

No: Only wealthy people. The whole point of the tax is to collect money and spend it on new technologies and innovations for clean energy, which is something we are way behind on, but without hitting the living expenses of the low-end and middle-classes. ALP would have not have decided to push this if there was no pragmatic option available. People in those categories will be able to claim more money back than which they have spent in paying the carbon tax, thereby leaving only high-income earners to foot the bill. And given you're most likely all poor smashers, all this means is you'll end up with money money in your pockets than you deserve.

Shortsighted people are boring, lame and hopeless for advancing our society. Guess which country is leading in clean energy? The same country that will eventually take over the world's economy -- China.
 
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If we really wanted to advance on clean energy, we'd be powering the entirety of WA with a single nuclear reactor right now. It kinda saddens me you believe that that'll actually work.
 
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i have not stated anywhere that this is guaranteed to work -- it's a CALCULATED RISK and it's implementation is PRAGMATIC and easy to opt-out of. it's not a policy that can empirically & effectively measured within our lifetime. so don't put words in my mouth. i'm following an ideological, altruistic perspective in that i beleive investments into new technoglogies isn't something that you should be able to selfishly bear witness to its benefits in the immediate term -- and also, that the sector can still be economized -- and already is in other regions.

neither have i even made a single reference to climate change.

and thank you for confirming my post -- a nuclear reactor isn't going to solve research into alternatives to jet fuel, or wrestle leverage against the major oil companies choking our cities with **** air.

and no, i didn't even mention JAPAN. but i'm sure you wanted me to.
 
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i wasn't going to make an argument that nuclear isn't safe -- because i think it can be -- with more research and greater world standardisation. but as i mentioned, that's not going to solve many of the other immediate environmental conditions.

i mean, even on the state level in victoria, people voted to SAVE the operation of coal power plants, instead of shutting them down. guess which political party heeded that decision maker.

it's a digression nonetheless, so it shouldn't be hindering the rest of what you got to say about my carbon tax responses.
 
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either way nuclear has always a risk, a risk which can be avoided.
as you can see from recent news, sometimes that risk is all too real.
we dont need that risk.

also fairly sure china has already taken over the worlds economy
 
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economists are generally giving them about 15-30 years before they gross the most GDP, assuming america is still sticking its *** in the sand :)
 
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meh delaying the inevitable

unless america decides to do something drastic
you know what scares me?

back in the day everyone thought that somebody dropping a nuke would begin a chain reaction that would detroy the world.

America dropped not 1, but 2 on japan and got away with it!
they even somehow came out as 'the good guys', not that I'm saying they were in the wrong, but this is ****ing nukes we're talking about here.
 
luke_atyeo

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well we could go down the 2 wrongs dont make it right path, but lets not.

I think the difference (a huge staggering difference) is that those bombs were dropped on residentual areas, populated by innocent people of course.
Now I'm not saying their the only ones perform those kinds of acts, but this is a nuclear weapon we're talking about.
twice.
people who werent even born are still feeling the effects of this generations later.


Japans most famous act against america was pearl harbour, which wasnt a city, it was a military base (AND they messed up anyways)


I get your point though, America passes off that the evil japanese need to be stopped from killing more people, and justifys droping a nuke.
That **** scares me, the nuke, but even more so, the power of the media.
 
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Japan ****ed up. They learnt and became cuted. The world now wubs them (mostly, except China for good reason). Happy ending. :)
 
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yeah japan ****ed up, no arguement there.

I guess if I had an arguement it would be that there is no justifaction for dropping even 1 nuke on a city.
none.
 
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an update on the videogame R18+ classification: while federal ALP has been trying to pass the new classification system through, it was hoped that the July DD meeting with all the state atterney-generals would have every state and territory in agreement for its approval, but with conservative swings in governments we now have a new victorian A-G that is highly against an R18+ rating. and we all know that every single state and terriroty A-G needs to sign off on this to pass.
http://www.theage.com.au/digital-li...uffed-over-violence-fears-20110402-1csmm.html

new guy to add to your hate list:
http://www.robertclark.net/about/about-robert-clark-mp/

‘‘[This] needs careful scrutiny and public debate,’’ he said. ‘‘The Coalition government is very concerned that the draft guidelines currently being proposed by the Commonwealth would legalise games with high levels of graphic, frequent and gratuitous violence, including violence against civilians and police.’’

or throw even more hate into the political & legal institutions
 
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