Wreck-It Bowser

[Bowser King]

I've yet to have problems following up unless they have good aerial movement. (EG: Wario/Squirtle/Jigglypuff)

Reading airdodges isn't hard.

Really?

I'm not saying I've never landed it. I have but I don't have a 100% followup rate on it

-Bowser King

 

[My Cat Owns]

Uthrow to uair is sexy. To bad it can be really hard to predict a good airdodger or follow up one characters with good aireal movement.

-Bowser King

I think U-air has enough lag in it to render anyone with a quick trigger finger the ability to air-dodge it. Unless they have vulnerability to it at low percents (like an area of frames where they can't do anything)

 

[Bowser King]

I think U-air has enough lag in it to render anyone with a quick trigger finger the ability to air-dodge it. Unless they have vulnerability to it at low percents (like an area of frames where they can't do anything)

Yeah, uair seems to be laggy enough for someone who's quick to airdodge but it can still work fairly consistently if you bait the airdodge.

-Bowser King

 

[SuSa]

Jump. Pause. They airdodge, you uair. ??? Profit

Most anyone who doesn't DI it properly will airdodge.

Alternatively there are a certain amount of people that (can't) touch the ground, and if you grab them out of their second jump... :3 They are left with dair, or airdodge. (or up-B I guess <_<)

Being above Bowser is generally a bad place. Uthrow tends to get people above you. :x That's why I like it.

Obviously I'll go for grab releases a lot as well. But if I do throw, it's almost always uthrow.

 

[Bowser King]

Jump. Pause. They airdodge, you uair. ??? Profit

Most anyone who doesn't DI it properly will airdodge.

I guess that works a lot better at lower damage but at higher damage most characters can just DI away and bowsers slow jump stops him from getting anywhere.

Being above Bowser is generally a bad place. Uthrow tends to get people above you. :x That's why I like it.

I agree with that but platforms seem far more vicious IMO. Utilt and Usmash are beast. You might even be able to pull off that free Fsmash tactic Gen showed. Not to mention it's a lot more safe then a possible uair.

Still uair's amazing kill power makes the risk a lot more reasonable.

Obviously I'll go for grab releases a lot as well. But if I do throw, it's almost always uthrow.

On the edge I love using dthrow. Works pretty good.

-Bowser King

 

[Jonas]

I guess that works a lot better at lower damage but at higher damage most characters can just DI away and bowsers slow jump stops him from getting anywhere.

Doesn't it have set knockback? :/

 

[SuSa]

Yep, it has set knockback. At 999% or 0% they will move the same amount if they DI forward and the same amount of they do not DI at all.

But shhh..... nobody uses Uthrow so nobody would know this.

 

[Bowser King]

Yep, it has set knockback. At 999% or 0% they will move the same amount if they DI forward and the same amount of they do not DI at all.

But shhh..... nobody uses Uthrow so nobody would know this.

Really???

I never used uthrow at lower percents so I wouldn't know

I need to use it more often then :O

-Bowser King

 

[Red Arremer]

You might even be able to pull off that free Fsmash tactic Gen showed.

You mean the one with pushing the opponent off the platforms on Battlefield?

 

[Bowser King]

You mean the one with pushing the opponent off the platforms on Battlefield?

Yeah this thing.

Not sure if it was unconfirmed but it seems to work. Situational but possible.

-Bowser King

 

[SuSa]

Really???

I never used uthrow at lower percents so I wouldn't know

I need to use it more often then :O

-Bowser King

It's a fantastic and highly underrated throw. Your opponent has like 4 options from it.

DI away + bair or airdodge (2 options)
Don't DI (or try and DI backwards. lawl) + dair or airdodge (2 options)

Do uthrow like 3 times, you should know what option they will try and choose. Then punish accordingly.

It also gets them in the air, then (believe it or not) you can actually juggle with Bowser. You can read for dsmashes/up-B's/uair's/fair's/bair's, or regrab upon their landing. Into..... a grab release or uthrow.

 

[Red Arremer]

Yea, it is pretty situational and doesn't work on many stages.

 

[Bowser King]

It's a fantastic and highly underrated throw. Your opponent has like 4 options from it.

DI away + bair or airdodge (2 options)
Don't DI (or try and DI backwards. lawl) + dair or airdodge (2 options)

Do uthrow like 3 times, you should know what option they will try and choose. Then punish accordingly.

It also gets them in the air, then (believe it or not) you can actually juggle with Bowser. You can read for dsmashes/up-B's/uair's/fair's/bair's, or regrab upon their landing. Into..... a grab release or uthrow.

Yeah, I guess your right. It's still far from perfect but it can work fairly well.

Something else to practice

Yea, it is pretty situational and doesn't work on many stages.

I've only tried it on battlefield and it, surprisingly isn't a bad tactic.

Hard to land in a real match but, if have the situation to usmash and find that they shield and give me a free fsmash, I'm happy :D

-Bowser King

 

[Red Arremer]

Taking this from the last few postings in the Q&A-Thread here.

Bowser King suggested of merging the Video Critique and the normal video thread and making them a sticky (with unstickying the old two ones should there not be the possibility of simple merging), as well as stickying the General Thread.

Following that, I also suggested a few other things in order to both unclutter the sticky mess and update the whole boards. My suggestions were updating the Directory thread with perhaps someone else taking over. Furthermore I was for updating the general Bowser guide (since it's really old by now) and merging it with several bigger threads such as JayDeth's Power-Guide, and perhaps the Grab Releases and the Frame Data (and Liquid Gen's Trixie-stuff, I thought of that right now).

I'll be assisting as much as I possibly can and would offer myself handling the Directory thread (use the Fox boards' and their Matchup-Index as credentials to see what I can do), as well as helping with a new guide.

Once we have gathered everything we want/need, we can contact the mods to have sticky/unsticky/close/change leader of threads.

 

[Bowser King]

Following that, I also suggested a few other things in order to both unclutter the sticky mess and update the whole boards. My suggestions were updating the Directory thread with perhaps someone else taking over.

I can do that but if you want too you can.

Furthermore I was for updating the general Bowser guide (since it's really old by now) and merging it with several bigger threads such as JayDeth's Power-Guide, and perhaps the Grab Releases and the Frame Data (and Liquid Gen's Trixie-stuff, I thought of that right now).

Merging with the power guide makes sense but I think the frame rate and grab release thread should stay seperate because there important threads on there own.

-Bowser King

 

[Red Arremer]

I don't mind - if you want to do it, go for it, heh. As long as you consistently update, it's all good.

I still think, though, that the frame data and grab releases shouldn't be stickies but rather linked and highlighted in the directory thread.

 

[MrEh]

Air releasing people on Battlefield is pro. Especially if they land on a platform. (Some animations work well, like MK's)

Run underneath them, charge a Usmash, and laugh at their feeble attempts to shield, spot dodge, or roll. ^^

 

[Flayl]

Air releasing people on Battlefield is pro. Especially if they land on a platform. (Some animations work well, like MK's)

Run underneath them, charge a Usmash, and laugh at their feeble attempts to shield, spot dodge, or roll. ^^

This is one of those things I keep telling myself to do when I watch a match of my own and always forget

 

[My Cat Owns]

Is there a way to force an air release or ground release? I don't remember seeing anything about it :[

 

[SuSa]

If their feet are off the ground - do not pummel. (Air release) or pummel and hope they break out on a pummel (ground release) (Or their feet are touching the ground)

 

[Hobobloke]

Aggghhh the new There will be Brawl ep came out and no Bowser!

 

[My Cat Owns]

Aggghhh the new There will be Brawl ep came out and no Bowser!

No one loves poor boozer

 

[Red Arremer]

Bowser will DEFINITELY be in TWBB. He's got so freaking much buildup already that he's definitely going to be an epic role.

Also, thanks for updating, I already kinda lost hope they would finish the new episode this month. I'll check it out tomorrow.

 

[Jonas]

Yeah this thing.

Not sure if it was unconfirmed but it seems to work. Situational but possible.

-Bowser King

Opponent can:
Jump
Air dodge
Tech

and then not get hit. Well, air dodging might not be the smartest thing to do, since airdodging in front of your opponent pretty much IS giving him a free Fsmash :/

 

[Bowser King]

Opponent can:
Jump
Air dodge
Tech

and then not get hit. Well, air dodging might not be the smartest thing to do, since airdodging in front of your opponent pretty much IS giving him a free Fsmash :/

Yes but when you jump your above bowser, just where he likes it

-Bowser King

 

[B!squick]

Just saw the lastest episode of There Will Be Brawl.

CLICK HERE AND WATCH NOW IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY!

My god has this series drawn me in. o_o

 

[My Cat Owns]

Is twbb some kind of brawl machinima?

 

[B!squick]

Nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu, it's not. It's the most awesome series based on a video game ever, live action or other wise.

:O

Yes, friend, it is a LIVE ACTION series with the entire cast of Brawl acting out a TWISTED and DARK plot full of SUSPENCE, BETRAYAL, and COMEDY. It follows the story of Luigi in a DEPRESSING and GRITTY Mushroom Kingdom as he trys to find the fiend responsible for a recent string of murders and quickly finding himself and his friends caught in an ever growing WEB OF INTRIGUE!

Also, it has the most kick *** Ganondorf you'll ever see as played by the Director and Co-Creator himself.

Linky to the historic first episode, details on a DVD version still pending (as far as I know): http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/there-will-be-brawl/496-Episode-One

 

[My Cat Owns]

Now I know why bowser isn't there . Live action makes it sound worse than machinima but hey I might as well check it out :D

 

[Red Arremer]

lol, no way. Machinimas absolutely PALE in comparison with this.

 

[B!squick]

Now I know why bowser isn't there . Live action makes it sound worse than machinima but hey I might as well check it out :D

This is BRAWL machinima you're refering to, remember? It barely ranks above puppet shows in it's level of complexity depending on how good of a hacker you are.

 

[Bowser King]

TWBB is too good. You should definitely watch it if you haven't already.

-Bowser King

 

[My Cat Owns]

If your opponent shields an aerial and you cancel by klawhopping, is it possible to bowsercide/bodyslam them or does the animation end too quickly?

Edit: oops i guess these questions should go in the q&a thread. I never really noticed it before

Dont kill me please

 

[SuSa]

I have some replays of my Boswer. Who wants?

 

[JOE!]

one thing to say about the new TWBB:

YESZ!!!! ​

anyways, boozer still aint there

 

[B!squick]

Only 2 more episodes left. They wont wait until the very last episode to reveal him, will they?

 

[Jonas]

This is BRAWL machinima you're refering to, remember? It barely ranks above puppet shows in it's level of complexity depending on how good of a hacker you are.

To be fair, MALR has made some truly amazing Brawl machinimas, though Bowser is never really well represented in them :/
Gotta request some videos with Bowser, although he says he doesn't take requests ^__^
But yeah, his machinimas are really silly, whereas TWBB is a lot more serious. I guess live action fits seriousness a lot better.

 

[B!squick]

The Best Page in the Universe gets an update for the first time in centuries.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=swine_flu

 

[Jonas]

Lol, but what does it have to do with Bowser?

 

[My Cat Owns]

Bowser has swine flu, dont'cha know?