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Because 95% of the time the perfect frame wavedash is the desirable one and the others are easy to do?
No, because if it was they would have kept it in Brawl and Smash 4. Sakurai has even specifically said that he didn't like the mechanic and the way it centralized the metagame around the execution of that technique.
It really shouldn't be, you can still reverse the stick during your prejump frames if you want to go in the opposite direction.
Wavedashing is easy to do to, what are you talking about lol
In terms of execution at least, GG's difficulty is quite exaggerated. It certainly varies from character to character, but aside from FRCs, there's nothing about it that's particularly harder than other fighters. A lot of the difficulty comes from more abstract things like meter management and defense, which is a pretty big distinction. I am definitely far from an execution god and still play one of the more technically demanding characters in the game.
People are demonstrably able to perform Sakura's 1-frame combos in SF4 consistently. I still wouldn't consider that good design.
I wouldn't mind there being a sort of buffer for the airdodge that ends right after the jumpsquat. I don't really find it completely necessary either, though.
So you're comparing wavedashing in Smash to 1-frame links in SF4? Seriously?
No, it's just to illustrate that the notion that "someone can do it consistently" doesn't necessarily mean that the execution requirement is reasonable.
Well the main thing is that here it has no effect on how the rest of the game works, it just makes the timing a bit more lenient. I can't really see any reason for that not to exist.
Dude... wavedashing really isn't that difficult. As for why it's not in the game, it's probably just because the PMBR is more focused on, I dunno, bug fixes, character balancing, and trying to figure out what to do with the clone character slots rather than cater to people who can't jump and airdodge.
Uh, Sakura's links aren't about pushing buttons 1 frame apart, they're about pushing buttons with a precise one-frame timing window. It's actually exactly the same timing as a perfect wavedash, which is also a one-frame window.
I've mastered other things which are similarly technical, like the Dante Empty Cancel combo in Playstation All-Stars (actually, it's even a fairly similar motion). I don't find the simple execution of the technique satisfying in any way, though. What's satisfying is to have a good match and beat your opponent through smart decision making. I actually find it very unsatisfying to beat someone due to them making a technical error, because then you know you didn't outplay them, they just screwed up.
It frequently does. If you're, say, 2 frames late, not only will you not go as far, you won't be able to act for 3-4 frames longer (since you not only waste the 2 frames when you're in the air but haven't wavedashed yet, but also the time it takes you to get back to the ground, before the 10 frame waveland can start). So if you want to punish something with WD OOS, losing those 4 frames will often turn a punish into something the opponent can block. Similarly, if you want to do a wavedash cancel off, say, Ike's Quick Draw, losing those 4 frames makes your grab or attack that much more reactable.
But performing a wavedash is not very hard, and just being able to perform one doesn't make you better. You aren't becoming better when you just practice diagonally air dodging into the ground. You actually have to learn when to use it and how it will be helpful, kind of like the other fundamentals in the game. It isn't like l canceling where it's useful just by doing it. Wavedashing doesn't support grind2win, and to be perfectly honest, it Isn't difficult enough to need an auto-magical wavedashing button. Plus, there are more useful things to do with your 2 spare buttons.
Well, you somewhat are. There's two parts to being able to wavedash well - the knowledge of where to use it, and the technical skill to perform it. The knowledge is useless if you can't do it consistently.
Universal input buffering does simplify most of these. I proposed earlier that one solution could be to allow players to turn on buffering on a per-account basis, like you can with tap jump (the buffering is already in the game, you just can't enable it for each player individually, it's everyone or no one). This might have some unintended consequences, however, and I think pretty much everyone would use it if it was available.
But the problem is that performing a wavedash isn't hard enough to warrant losing one of your 2 spare buttons that could be more useful for something else. Footstooling and an extra attack button come mind. Since using this buffer makes you have less options and therefore less potential, it'd be pointless in competitive play. And again, it really Isn't that hard.
20XXLike I said, it would just feel REALLY silly if I could do this:
with just two inputs.
This is a terrible, borderline infuriating opinion. You're suggesting that the way some people play is the right way, and another is the wrong way.
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The idea behind the buffer is that it wouldn't take a button, it would just work that way automatically. You'd still have to perform the wavedash motion, the timing of the shield button just wouldn't be tight anymore.
Like I said before, controlling your character should be intuitive and natural. Knowing what to do in each situation is the part that should take practice and skill.
I can tell you're not particularly good at Mario Kart. It was snaking that allowed the casual players to have a chance, because it rendered more nebulous concepts like item strategy and race positioning less important. To casual players who don't understand these concepts, the outcome seems random, but if you have a high level player in a room full of moderate level players they'll win almost every time, hence the game is actually not very random at all.
Except it's not really. Most of the most popular games are those where execution barriers are low. There's a reason Mario Kart is much more popular than, say, F-Zero or Wipeout. Similarly, there's a reason Street Fighter 4 was much more popular than Street Fighter 3.
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just came in, popped off, and said what i have been trying to say this whole time, you see i am very bad at expressing myself and my views.
