Wofl Q&A/Social

[tru0067]

Down throw to down throw at 0% on Bowser

On that note is down throw our best throw?

 

[PMC66]

jab dsmash double jab to dash grab, jab ftilt etc

Heres my match against Sebrik

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9y_J1hRYpA&feature=plcp

Jab Jab F-air can be practical too, and Jab Jab down tilt.

 

[tekkie]

**** comboes into utilt at low %s

 

[Youngster Joey]

anything else? i only know the mk grab release and the d tilt lock that i dont really go out of my way to do. i need useful little things. just for the sake of knowing the tricks

 

[tru0067]

What is our best throw?

 

[Youngster Joey]

d throw does the most damage but f throw can lead to some okay follow ups and b throw can kinda do the same but its also good for getting away from your opponent. i just never use u throw

 

[Rizen]

Dthrow's 12% damage makes it the best imo. If they tech you're in in a better position to follow up with Dsmash or Fsmash, depending and if not they are launched at a nice low angle. On rare occasion I might Bthrow someone offstage.

 

[MegaRobMan]

Remember, Up-b is guaranteed after d-throw at 0%

 

[Youngster Joey]

do you guys think snake v wolf is in wolfs favor? i've been hearing that it is and i dont struggle too much against snake. i lose but its usually close.

 

[M.C. Pee-Pants]

Best combo is down throw into the water then up b to kill on delphino ask ish he knows

 

[Rizen]

Snake wins +1. Wolf can pressure well when Snake's in a bad position but Snake outlasts and has crazy KO power.

Best combo is down throw into the water then up b to kill on delphino ask ish he knows

@ Ish: ^?

 

[Wolf McBlue]

Remember, Up-b is guaranteed after d-throw at 0%

This is making me so excited since WOLF KICK (upb) is one of my favorite moves but I almost never use it. Do you know what the maximum % is?

 

[Ishiey]

Best combo is down throw into the water then up b to kill on delphino ask ish he knows

This is seriously too legit.

 

[MegaRobMan]

Best combo is down throw into the water then up b to kill on delphino ask ish he knows

You could have asked me, Delfino probably Wolfs best stage because all of his moves are viable on that stage like half the time.

This is making me so excited since WOLF KICK (upb) is one of my favorite moves but I almost never use it. Do you know what the maximum % is?

looooooool

I was joking.

The point of that post was basically the opposite of what I said, you never want to D-throw between 0 and like 12% because most characters have the frame advantage because they don't actually get grounded and there is no stun due to that.

So like if you d-throw falco at 0%, you are going to get jabbed, grabbed and potentially CG'd because of your horrible mistake.

That being said, D-throw combos into spike on Lylatt.

guarenteeeeeeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Ishiey]

It's fun when you know your opponent is smart, and you dthrow them at 0% only to PS their jab and get a free grab :3

But yeah don't actually dthrow people at low %s.

 

[Alacion]

Wolf is seriously not fun to play against >_>

 

[SinisterB]

bair bair bair bair bair bair

 

[Ishiey]

I'm looking at your avatar and imagining every bullet making the sound of Wolf's bair.

It's pretty great :3

 

[Youngster Joey]

i feel like i wanna try the d throw to spike on lylat but i feel like its not actually guaranteed

 

[Seagull Joe]

Hey guys, I've been changing a thing about my that I think will make a big difference in my game. Instead of using Fsmash as a punisher, I've been switching up to using more Dtilt. Dtilt is safer on block. Obviously if I know Fsmash is guaranteed then I go for that though.

Dtilt starts on frame 5-6 and can be interrupted after 28 frames to do another action. It does 6%, can trip (What's the trip rate anybody?), and has good range. Fsmash starts frame 10-12...And lasts 46 frames, but does 14-15% total. That's 18 frames difference!! That's so huge...And since they both have almost the same range it only makes sense to use Dtilt more unless you know your opponent did something laggy enough that you can hit them within 1/6 of a second (Fsmash) compared to 1/12 of a second (Dtilt). I think Fsmash is a much larger punish, but it leads into nothing and is hugely unsafe on block. Dtilt being safer on block and possibility of tripping an opponent is so good.

Played Junebug, Neo, Pink Fresh, Luckay, and Tantalus yesterday. Neo taught me about another handy tech. If you dash>input down at the exact distance it would take to dashing shield then you can jab immediately afterwards. Probably been known for awhile, but I think it can be useful.

 

[Ishiey]

Can't find trip rate for dtilt in our frame data, but I've had an unreasonably high success rate of dtilt tripping people when you catch them during landing lag. Unreasonably high as in, well over 90% success when they're at %s where dtilt can trip.

Tbh, punishment is all about going for whatever move will hit hardest or put you in the best position with the time available. Dtilt is good if you need to be quick, but when you have the time for both a guaranteed dtilt and fsmash idk why you'd pass up the latter for the former :x what do you use dtilt for that fsmash won't cover? Also, ftilt is pretty good too, for the same general task.

The dash > jab thing is known but I barely see anyone use it. Could be handy for Wolf, since we have a good initial dash.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

If you punished with dtilt instead of fsmash, and then they tripped, couldn't you then punish the trip with a fsmash?

 

[MegaRobMan]

The dash-down thing has been known since melee.

Also I'm about to be moving so I will be throwing smashfests/tournaments again so maybe I'll actually get good at brawl again.

 

[Wolf McBlue]

I just looked in the frame data and dtilt has a 40% chance to tilt. Ish for your delphino kill do you upb down or to the sides?

 

[Ishiey]

MRM, are you still going to be in Nebraska?

Blue, you should ask MCPe, he's the master when it comes to this tech xD but you just upB horizontally and it's a free stock (you kill them off the sides and land in the water)

 

[MegaRobMan]

Yes I will still be in Nebraska, it's just I had been living with my parents again for 3 years after living in Lincoln for 5 years.

I had been meaning to move out for a long time, but I don't want to abandon my cat, she will be so sad. When I'm gone for even like 2 days she just sits by the door and waits for me, and it makes me think of the end of that Futurama episode where Frys dog just sits and waits for him forever and it's literally the saddest thing I've ever seen on television that isn't one of those starving cats in africa commercials.

She is my moms cat (with her sister) and she hasn't ever experienced the living situation type I will be experiencing and she's like 12.

For those of you wondering, yes, I have basically chosen to live at home and hang out with my cat instead of living on my own and taking all of the 35 year old divorced women home with me.

 

[Luminoth64]

I had been meaning to move out for a long time, but I don't want to abandon my cat, she will be so sad. When I'm gone for even like 2 days she just sits by the door and waits for me, and it makes me think of the end of that Futurama episode where Frys dog just sits and waits for him forever and it's literally the saddest thing I've ever seen on television that isn't one of those starving cats in africa commercials.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this, I hate that episode. :'(

 

[Ishiey]

I had been meaning to move out for a long time, but I don't want to abandon my cat, she will be so sad. When I'm gone for even like 2 days she just sits by the door and waits for me, and it makes me think of the end of that Futurama episode where Frys dog just sits and waits for him forever and it's literally the saddest thing I've ever seen on television that isn't one of those starving cats in africa commercials.

For those of you wondering, yes, I have basically chosen to live at home and hang out with my cat instead of living on my own and taking all of the 35 year old divorced women home with me.

Damn straight. Priorities.

 

[Youngster Joey]

i think i just learned a bunch of useful things in the last page.. d tilt instead of f smash. that delfino trick. i still need to try it to see how useful it is but keep it coming! does wolf have any tricks as useful as dk's grab carry off the stage and throw at the angled wall thing? im sure you know what i mean

 

[Seagull Joe]

The Delfino thing is a huge gimmick. Learn Bair spacing before anything.

 

[Ishiey]

What Gull said. Before learning gimmicks, learn fundamentals. Bair spacing, AC fair, juggle/ledge traps, jab mixups, recovery.

 

[Goldenadept]

learn how to rofl woffle and bair, thats all you need

 

[tru0067]

All Wolf needs is Bair, you space bair perfectly every time and you've won

 

[Wolf McBlue]

Spread the word, the Alabama Smash League will be hosting its own regional, "Above the Influence" (http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=330205) check it out and see if you want to come (mk ban). We will also have Project M o.0

 

[Ishiey]

I'm seriously considering it, AtlSouth is awesome :3

 

[Seagull Joe]

Ignore this.

 

[tekkie]

i have a dazzle and a copy of silent hill shattered memories, im gonna neckbeard speedrun gamez all winter break

 

[MegaRobMan]

The Delfino thing is a huge gimmick. Learn Bair spacing before anything.

Well, what if this person ALWAYS plays a game on Delfino. So long as he avoids Japan stage lists, and he always wins game 1 and loses game 2 and picks Delfino, it's useful 33% of the time on stages and like 20% of the time on the stage, and that's like 100% of the time!

 

[Wolf McBlue]

Well I played against some friends in the game room at my college and I was doing great for not playing since WABA. But then someone played pit and i was taken to castle siege and SD because of the stupid ledges on the first part >< seriously who is actually good at CS?

 

[tru0067]

Castle Siege is annoying,

1st transformation you get stuck when recovering

2nd transformation we get chain grabbed off the side

3rd transformation the lack of platforms ruins our game

Probably not one of our best stages